Not everyone is pleased SiSU are shafting a charity! I wish ACL bankrupt Arvo, so a new buyer can come in - we are going nowhere under SiSU - regardless of rent!
When SISU do things that shaft us they are Satan's left testical.
When SISU shaft other people however it may help CCFC. They are the dogs bollox.
I know not all people share this hypocrisy.
However it is quite funny. Makes me wonder what people's limits are.
I must confess mine was Marlon's I could not turn a blind eye to that.
Yes, the rent could have been renegotiated as part of the due diligence leading to the take over. But a few things were quite different back then.
First of all - the business plan was made by Ranson. Not sisu. And his focus was to take us to PL and so I think he didn't even think about the rent.
Next - nobody really understood the reality of the financial crunch. How different almost everything was going to be.
Also - The yearly budget was so much bigger back then than it is now, and so the rent was a smaller percentage of the overall cost.
When SISU do things that shaft us they are Satan's left testical.
I don't see how this affects you on a personal level..sadly Mary, we live in a world where millions of people, and businesses default on agreed payments, one things for sure though. Its the club before outsiders in this scenario .always should be.No. They stopped paying the rent they're contractually obliged to pay. This process could have - if genuine and candid - have been completed with a whole lot more grace and dignity than has prevailed
I don't see how this affects you on a personal level..sadly Mary, we live in a world where millions of people, and businesses default on agreed payments, one things for sure though. Its the club before outsiders in this scenario .always should be.
Well as an ex-Shareholder it is not quite true to say they just took them,I still have the cheque of 1p for them from the club at home,still not cashed.Not saying people are worshiping them. However the tough hard ball tactics.
Matters such as taking people's shares. Promising to get promotion in 3 years. Selling top scorers knowing it will consign us to relegation. Not talking to the fans putting us in administration. Coming out of admin just after our main targets sign for someone else........
Are often attributed to the fact they are a hedge fund. They are ruthless they don't care they are nasty buggers they will destroy us for a profit etc..
Hardball tactic when dealing with another company. Not negotiating. Reneging in a contract.
Starting negiotions then pulling out.
Not entering talks.
Not compromising
ACL left thinking they are going to destroy us. (sound familiar)
However for some 'its ok they get the rent lowers it helps cov'.
I wonder if the same people who support them on using these tactics on ACL will support them when they start screwing CCFC or the fans over something again.
Originally Posted by SkyBlue_TaylorI don't fully understand why people are taking ACL's side over CCFC's side!? Yes, the owners aren't great as we know (but no one else is waiting to take over) but what we also know is, we pay too much rent, which SISU inherited, they didn't agree to this, their predecessors did. We've paid too much, for too long ACL enjoy 500k profit per year (give or take) so they can afford to drop the rent, they're also a 'non-profit' organisation so would it be fair to say they are immoral for burdening the club?
Point is, desperate times, call for desperate measures and if CCFC had paid their rent, would ACL be willing to renegotiate? I'm not convinced tbh, so it seems logical we stop paying to force our way to the negotiating table.
Morality? Doesn't exist in the business world! There's no point in taking the moral high ground.
Something tells me you will be bleating from the trees when SISU shaft CCFC next
Is this the time where SISU now shaft the fans. Do we still applaud their hardball tactic. Remember it is for the good if the club everything they do........
Forgetting the rent issue for a minute i fail to see our owners current stance as beneficial for the club, it's players or supporters. With all the talk from their representative Tim Fisher i have yet to see or read a positive proposal as to where they want to be in the next few years other than daft ideas of playing elsewhere which would have a massive negative effect on our owners finance.Can't see why that is hypocrisy. All people want is for the football club to benefit.
The lower the rent ultimately the greater the benefit.
Can there be some kind of ban on dragging up old posts to score points? For feck's sake.
Especially when it doesn't even score any points.
Can there be some kind of ban on dragging up old posts to score points? For feck's sake.
Can there be some kind of ban on dragging up old posts to score points? For fuck's sake.
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