Hyam vs Rose (1 Viewer)

Reidy87 · May 15, 2022

*all stats from sqwauka comparison matrix per 90

I believe Robins and the majority of our fan base see Hyam as the better player. The stats shown above do indicate that Rose is better in possession. Both players have been moved into different slots in the back three throughout the season.

Who would you rather see in our back three next season?

Grendel · May 15, 2022

Neither

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 15, 2022

Reidy87 said:
*all stats from sqwauka comparison matrix per 90

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I believe Robins and the majority of our fan base see Hyam as the better player. The stats shown above do indicate that Rose is better in possession. Both players have been moved into different slots in the back three throughout the season.

Who would you rather see in our back three next season?

I think Hyam is the better CB as you can manipulate the stats however you want but on gameday Hyam delivers as seen by Robins choosing to play him

lord_garrincha · May 15, 2022

Grendel said:
Neither

It's weird.

We accept that we concede far too many. There have been too many examples of 'one chance, one goal!".

Yet 'Hyam is great', 'Fadz is our rock', 'we should sign JCS in a heartbeat' & 'the stats show Rose should start'.

If Robins accepts we need to sort the attack, then he must realise that the back 3 needs sorting or we don't progress.

And, yes, we defend as a team... but they are the core players.

SlowerThanPlatt · May 15, 2022

Grendel said:
Neither

Rose is going to the Premier League anyway

Grendel · May 15, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Rose is going to the Premier League anyway

And Hyam is one of the top 5 defenders in the league what can go wrong

SBAndy · May 15, 2022

Rose is far superior on the ball, Hyam is better defensively. I’d prefer Hyam but, as Grendel said, in an ideal situation we’d have neither in the starting XI.

Evo1883 · May 15, 2022

Hyam better defensively , Rose slightly better on the ball .

Hyam has come on alot this season , had a poor year last year , not so much this year.

steve101 · May 15, 2022

Depends who else is in the back three. Rose is regarded as one of the quickest players at the club - something we lack when Fadz is playing.

stupot07 · May 15, 2022

Hyam is better defensively, but Rose is far superior on the ball, his range of passing is the best of all our CBs by far. Apparently Rose is the quickest player at the club on all the speed tests, according to Godden and Waghorn. To me that says we really need to recruit some pace in attacking areas in the summer.

Ideally we'd upgrade both and have them as back up.

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shmmeee · May 15, 2022

In an ideal world both would be backup. Hyam too slow, too easy to run at and too prone to silly positional mistakes or bad passes.

fernandopartridge · May 15, 2022

Reidy87 said:
*all stats from sqwauka comparison matrix per 90

View attachment 24645

I believe Robins and the majority of our fan base see Hyam as the better player. The stats shown above do indicate that Rose is better in possession. Both players have been moved into different slots in the back three throughout the season.

Who would you rather see in our back three next season?

I think Rose is better and given the choice would take him over Hyam

fatso · May 15, 2022

Both are OK if playing alongside a big dominant centre half. But neither is a big dominant centre half.

PVA · May 15, 2022

Hyam.

He's one of the first names on the team sheet and I'm sure he will be again next season.

Reidy87 · May 15, 2022

PVA said:
Hyam.

He's one of the first names on the team sheet and I'm sure he will be again next season.

He is normally in the middle as he’s number 15

Tommo1993 · May 15, 2022

Still believe it’s Fadz we need to upgrade on.

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 15, 2022

Reidy87 said:
He is normally in the middle as he’s number 15

Squad numbers dont mean position necessarily as JCS was number 3 and played CB not LWB

Reidy87 · May 15, 2022

PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
Squad numbers dont mean position necessarily as JCS was number 3 and played CB not LWB

Middle of teamsheet not first like the person said

PUSB-We_are_going_up · May 15, 2022

Reidy87 said:
Middle of teamsheet not first like the person said

Ah right would make more sense then

slowpoke · May 15, 2022

Hyam improved no end once he moved to right hand side, Rose is okay at centre-half as is McFadz but we need better.

TomRad85 · May 15, 2022

I think most would say Hyam but always preferred Rose personally. As said above I'd rather both were backup but in reality we need to replace JCS and probs get in a 'new Fadz' so replacing one of these on the right too simply isn't going to happen.

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Evo1883 · May 15, 2022

Rose made some horrendous passing errors in the latter part of the season .. at forest alone he must have made 4 in a row that were suicidal .

His stats must have been much better earlier in the season because the latter stages with the exception of 1 or 2 matches he was dire defensively.. he does chip in with corner goals though

SleepyGinger · May 15, 2022

I would be happy with both of them fighting for the right centre back position.

Hyam
Rose

New CB
Fadz

New CB (left footed)
Bidwell

MusicDating · May 15, 2022

Grendel said:
Neither

Stop ruining the OPs threads!!

The Philosopher · May 15, 2022

lord_garrincha said:
It's weird.

We accept that we concede far too many. There have been too many examples of 'one chance, one goal!".

Yet 'Hyam is great', 'Fadz is our rock', 'we should sign JCS in a heartbeat' & 'the stats show Rose should start'.

If Robins accepts we need to sort the attack, then he must realise that the back 3 needs sorting or we don't progress.

And, yes, we defend as a team... but they are the core players.

Great post. Can’t disagree with any of that.

The only thing I’ll add is that if we can keep all our best players and replace the loanees like for like then we need to look at the goalkeeping.

Spend all the budget we can, even if a season long Prem loan who costs a lot on a top top gk.

Look at Hudds Goalie, Nichols?, he’s been brilliant for them. As a side the they are nothing special, not as good as us outfield IMO but having a top gk and they are top 3.

Moore is ok, but not top level. Wilson too erratic.

Go get us a top GK and I think we will get to the next level.

SlowerThanPlatt · May 15, 2022

The Philosopher said:
Great post. Can’t disagree with any of that.

The only thing I’ll add is that if we can keep all our best players and replace the loanees like for like then we need to look at the goalkeeping.

Spend all the budget we can, even if a season long Prem loan who costs a lot on a top top gk.

Look at Hudds Goalie, Nichols?, he’s been brilliant for them. As a side the they are nothing special, not as good as us outfield IMO but having a top gk and they are top 3.

Moore is ok, but not top level. Wilson too erratic.

Go get us a top GK and I think we will get to the next level.

Nicholls was a free from MK Dons, so they are out there, finding them is the hard part…

Deleted member 9744 · May 15, 2022

Clearly Hyam but I have a feeling Rose has the potential to improve considerably. It depends how much he wants it.

Philosoraptor · May 15, 2022

Ooh...

Philosoraptor · May 15, 2022

Hyam vs Rose

	Hyam	Rose
Started the season on	1481	1431
Finished the season on	1489.9	1446.4
Making a gain overall of	+8.9	+15.4

All this and more..

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SlowerThanPlatt · May 15, 2022

Philosorapter said:
Hyam vs Rose

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Hyam
Rose
Started the season on
1481
1431
Finished the season on
1489.9
1446.4
Making a gain overall of
+8.9
+15.3

All this and more..

The Super Duper Ratings Thread

www.skybluestalk.co.uk

You make it look all so simple

Terry Gibson's perm · May 15, 2022

I would be pleased to see us bring in a left footed centre back and one with a bit more pace than we have at the moment, keep two of the three we currently have.

Philosoraptor · May 15, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt said:
You make it look all so simple

Just trying to make a spreadsheet sing.

shmmeee · May 15, 2022

Evo1883 said:
Rose made some horrendous passing errors in the latter part of the season .. at forest alone he must have made 4 in a row that were suicidal .

His stats must have been much better earlier in the season because the latter stages with the exception of 1 or 2 matches he was dire defensively.. he does chip in with corner goals though

Had a dreadful run of form, am I imagining it or was he another post covid?

Evo1883 · May 15, 2022

shmmeee said:
Had a dreadful run of form, am I imagining it or was he another post covid?

Possibly correct, but his passing was not what it was

Super Graham Withey · May 15, 2022

Rose. Hyam is way too slow for the top end of the Championship.

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