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Dimi_Konstantflapalot

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  • Mar 11, 2023
  • #36
Glad BNC and JWE aren’t our players and going back at the season end

I hope they go on to do well in their careers and no doubt there will be many posts in years to come highlighting how we didn’t know what talents we had

But for this point in time, I just don’t see what the club are gaining other than a few more warm bodies to help fill the bench
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Mar 11, 2023
  • #37
Howley has a bit of the Cian Harries about him. Highly rated but until he hits the gym he's going to get bullied in men's football. Similar build to Bellingham but Bellingham was always up for a tackle and to put his body about even when 16/17 so he didn't get bullied.

Thought Burroughs looked good when he came on. He might be better than BNC and JWE.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Mar 11, 2023
  • #38
skyblue93 said:
Howley has a bit of the Cian Harries about him. Highly rated but until he hits the gym he's going to get bullied in men's football.

Thought Burroughs looked good when he came on. He might be better than BNC and JWE.
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Phil Foden is a similar build, if he can do it then Howley can (appreciate footballing ability there is no comparison!)

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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 11, 2023
  • #39
stupot07 said:
It's like his brain is too slow for his body. He did a couple of good things then just goes into dopey mode, let's the ball bounce or doesn't spot a runner, or plays the wrong pass.

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JWE very poor at spotting a quick pass as well, might just be inexperience though
 
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Calista

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  • Mar 11, 2023
  • #40
skyblue1991 said:
Phil Foden is a similar build, if he can do it then Howley can (appreciate footballing ability there is no comparison!)

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Ryan Howley has a similar build to Phil Foden?
 

slowpoke

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  • Mar 11, 2023
  • #41
skyblue1991 said:
Phil Foden is a similar build, if he can do it then Howley can (appreciate footballing ability there is no comparison!)

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You serious ? Foden is about a stone lighter and 6 inches shorter.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Mar 11, 2023
  • #42
Deleted member 9744 said:
Sorry I was being ironic and making the point that those two get criticised no matter what from some people.
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Did you not see the shambolic performance of BNC during the A444 clean up operation? Far too much standing around for my liking!








*Just clarifying this is a joke. It was a great initiative and fair play to all of them that got involved. Lots of smiles here too!
 
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skybluepm2

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #43
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Did you not see the shambolic performance of BNC during the A444 clean up operation? Far too much standing around for my liking!

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*Just clarifying this is a joke. It was a great initiative and fair play to all of them that got involved. Lots of smiles here too!
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Good to see Robins helping out the team here too.
 
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coop

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #44
Was it esbrand taking them awful corners .Don't think he's took one decent one why is he still taking them .Both loan wing backs are terrible
 
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Skybluefaz

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #45
Eccles was great, did a bit of everything.
 
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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #46
Deleted member 9744 said:
Great range of passing, tackles and constantly covering for defenders, what more do you want?

Great to see Eccles, Burroughs and Howley coming through. All have the ability to be really good players for us.
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Clearly it was just me as pretty much everyone disagrees. Can only say how I feel. It’s not like I don’t rate him, I just thought yesterday his passing wasn’t sharp which upset our rhythm and on 2+ occasions he dived into make a tackle in the attacking third when he really didn’t need to which left us exposed that thankfully didn’t lead to anything. As I said, no one else has seen it that way I was just surprised to see him as MOTM. I thought Hamer was comfortably better despite a dip second half


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larry_david

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #47
The more I see of JWE the more I see a player there. He glides past players with ease. Final decision making, etc there are flaws but that's why he's out on loan.

I think people are blinded by the parent club. If he was coning through the academy I think we'd say he was raw but has potential to be a decent player for us. But because he's not ours, he's shit.

Eccles was great but at the same time, he was far too tentative in the first 20 mins. There was a passage of play he received it twice on half way and without even thinking just played it straight back when there was no one around him. But boy what a player he will be for us.

Howley I thought good first 10 mins but then completely disappeared until that penalty trip incident.

Godden should have been given another 5 mins after the goal and then come off.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #48
larry_david said:
The more I see of JWE the more I see a player there. He glides past players with ease. Final decision making, etc there are flaws but that's why he's out on loan.

I think people are blinded by the parent club. If he was coning through the academy I think we'd say he was raw but has potential to be a decent player for us. But because he's not ours, he's shit.

Eccles was great but at the same time, he was far too tentative in the first 20 mins. There was a passage of play he received it twice on half way and without even thinking just played it straight back when there was no one around him. But boy what a player he will be for us.

Howley I thought good first 10 mins but then completely disappeared until that penalty trip incident.

Godden should have been given another 5 mins after the goal and then come off.
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Godden should have scored the winner that’s for sure
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #49
slowpoke said:
You serious ? Foden is about a stone lighter and 6 inches shorter.
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More to the point then if Foden is of lighter build to Howley but plays at the top level of the men's game, footballing aside I don't see him struggle with the physicality

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GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #50
Greggs said:
all on the piss last night at that concert, weren't they?!
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Still not great going to a concert the night before a game imo. Guess Tom Grennan finished about 10:45 no idea if the met up with him after but I doubt they got to bed before 1am. And all that energy sapping excitement and loud noise
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #51
larry_david said:
. If he was coning through the academy I think we'd say he was raw but has potential to be a decent player for us.
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Would be quite happy if we got the benefit of any future improvement...
 
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skyblu3sk

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #52
I thought BNC did OK yesterday, few dangerous crosses in and won a good number of corners for us to waste.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #53
GaryPendrysEyes said:
Still not great going to a concert the night before a game imo. Guess Tom Grennan finished about 10:45 no idea if the met up with him after but I doubt they got to bed before 1am. And all that energy sapping excitement and loud noise
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Someone I know said they left early
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #54
Still in disbelief at how often we passed up the chance to shoot in promising positions. Lots of times we did the hard work of breaking through their lines then fluffing our own. On that basis

Wilson 6 At zero fault for the goal
Dabo 7
McNally 6
McF 6
Doyle 6
Bidwell 6
Eccles 7
Hamer 7
Howley 6
Gyo 7 Single handedly made the goal
Godden 7

Subs
BNC 6
JWE 6
Maguire 6

We looked seriously devoid of ideas after going behind and actually should have gone further behind if anything. When it’s one of those games where we pass up glorious chances and the opposition score from their only serious effort, that tends to happen.

Moral of the story-take your chances
 
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Ashdown

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #55
Biggest disappointment for me was Bidwell. Very poor, gave the ball away all the time . BNC wasn’t a bad addition. Hamer was tops for an hour but faded.
Dabo bang average too, which meant our supply from the wings and crossing were poor by our standards.
 

larry_david

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #56
Ashdown said:
Biggest disappointment for me was Bidwell. Very poor, gave the ball away all the time . BNC wasn’t a bad addition. Hamer was tops for an hour but faded.
Dabo bang average too, which meant our supply from the wings and crossing were poor by our standards.
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Say it on here and you get pelters but for me, on the ball, in the final third, Bidwell is just not effective. That one in the first half he had about 5 mins to pick a player out with a cross and he hit the defender. The crowd lap it up cuz we got a corner out of it but oggy was fuming as was I.

He won't be here next season
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #57
Dimi_Konstantflapalot said:
Glad BNC and JWE aren’t our players and going back at the season end

I hope they go on to do well in their careers and no doubt there will be many posts in years to come highlighting how we didn’t know what talents we had

But for this point in time, I just don’t see what the club are gaining other than a few more warm bodies to help fill the bench
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Good summary

Why some on here are so precious when reality is explained to them I’ve no idea
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #58
larry_david said:
Say it on here and you get pelters but for me, on the ball, in the final third, Bidwell is just not effective. That one in the first half he had about 5 mins to pick a player out with a cross and he hit the defender. The crowd lap it up cuz we got a corner out of it but oggy was fuming as was I.

He won't be here next season
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I don’t think he’s our biggest concern. I’d go as far as to say if any of Palmer, Allen or O’Hare are available yesterday we probably win.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #59
Wilson 6
Dabo 7
McNally 6
McFadz 6
Doyle 6
Bidwell 6
Eccles 7.5
Hamer 7
Howley 6
Gyo 6
Godden 6

Subs
BNC 5
JWE 5
Maguire 6
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #60
larry_david said:
Say it on here and you get pelters but for me, on the ball, in the final third, Bidwell is just not effective. That one in the first half he had about 5 mins to pick a player out with a cross and he hit the defender. The crowd lap it up cuz we got a corner out of it but oggy was fuming as was I.

He won't be here next season
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Yep I've been saying it for ages.

Defensively he's really good, but he doesn't offer enough going forward and it's clear Robins thinks the same. The Swansea manager also felt the same.
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #61
larry_david said:
The more I see of JWE the more I see a player there. He glides past players with ease. Final decision making, etc there are flaws but that's why he's out on loan.

I think people are blinded by the parent club. If he was coning through the academy I think we'd say he was raw but has potential to be a decent player for us. But because he's not ours, he's shit.

Eccles was great but at the same time, he was far too tentative in the first 20 mins. There was a passage of play he received it twice on half way and without even thinking just played it straight back when there was no one around him. But boy what a player he will be for us.

Howley I thought good first 10 mins but then completely disappeared until that penalty trip incident.

Godden should have been given another 5 mins after the goal and then come off.
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Yeah, he’s getting better game by game. In his shortish cameo today he drove into the box a couple of times turning his man inside out. The polar opposite to Bidwell who gets it in early. Pretty much the exact type signing we needed as competition/an alternative to Bidwell. End product needs to improve but similar to Maatsen after only a few full games worth of time on pitch in that sense.
 
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GaryPendrysEyes

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #62
Sky Blue Pete said:
Someone I know said they left early
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Fair play if true.
 

pusbccfc

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #63
Shocked at some of the Hamer ratings. Granted, he dropped his level towards the end but he was incredible in the first half. Completely different level to the rest on the pitch.
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #64
Ashdown said:
Biggest disappointment for me was Bidwell. Very poor, gave the ball away all the time . BNC wasn’t a bad addition. Hamer was tops for an hour but faded.
Dabo bang average too, which meant our supply from the wings and crossing were poor by our standards.
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Bidwells pass completion rate was 80% which is pretty much on par with everyone else that started yesterday.

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larry_david

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #65
stupot07 said:
Bidwells pass completion rate was 80% which is pretty much on par with everyone else that started yesterday.

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That's because he plays safe safe safe every time.
 

stevefloyd

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #66
larry_david said:
Say it on here and you get pelters but for me, on the ball, in the final third, Bidwell is just not effective. That one in the first half he had about 5 mins to pick a player out with a cross and he hit the defender. The crowd lap it up cuz we got a corner out of it but oggy was fuming as was I.

He won't be here next season
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Have to agree about Bidwell he's not too bad at defending but fucking awful with his final ball
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #67
larry_david said:
Say it on here and you get pelters but for me, on the ball, in the final third, Bidwell is just not effective. That one in the first half he had about 5 mins to pick a player out with a cross and he hit the defender. The crowd lap it up cuz we got a corner out of it but oggy was fuming as was I.

He won't be here next season
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He has deteriorated seriously since the turn of the year. Was one of the best players before the World Cup but don't know what's happening with him.
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #68
larry_david said:
The more I see of JWE the more I see a player there. He glides past players with ease. Final decision making, etc there are flaws but that's why he's out on loan.

I think people are blinded by the parent club. If he was coning through the academy I think we'd say he was raw but has potential to be a decent player for us. But because he's not ours, he's shit.

Eccles was great but at the same time, he was far too tentative in the first 20 mins. There was a passage of play he received it twice on half way and without even thinking just played it straight back when there was no one around him. But boy what a player he will be for us.

Howley I thought good first 10 mins but then completely disappeared until that penalty trip incident.

Godden should have been given another 5 mins after the goal and then come off.
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There’s a player in there
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #69
larry_david said:
That's because he plays safe safe safe every time.
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So he couldn't have given the ball away all of the time then could he?

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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 12, 2023
  • #70
stay_up_skyblues said:
Yeah, he’s getting better game by game. In his shortish cameo today he drove into the box a couple of times turning his man inside out. The polar opposite to Bidwell who gets it in early. Pretty much the exact type signing we needed as competition/an alternative to Bidwell. End product needs to improve but similar to Maatsen after only a few full games worth of time on pitch in that sense.
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He seems to play well with Gyokeres. There was some good exchanges between the two in the short period he was on whereas Bidwell was providing very little support to Gyokeres. They also seem to be talking a lot.
 
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