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Match Thread Hull City - Coventry City Match Thread - Monday 14th Apr (5 Viewers)

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shepardo01

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #386
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Your mate isn’t 85 is she?
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Haha ..... Would explain the "leak"....
 
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David O'Day

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #387
SkyBlue_Adam said:
I didn’t say it should. But it is, and if we are finding out pre game- Hull 100% already know too
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why? no one at the club is telling hull our team

if they do find out it would be via the same way we would fund out so if no one actually posted the info or passed it n they would not know

unless you are saying someone at the club is leaking directly to the opposition which is serious
 
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skybluejeff

New Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #388
mmttww said:
I think the Sunderland game made us think Wright was the answer through the middle and Allen should be starting. Don't think games since proved that.

Simms is more effective as the battering ram which in every game except Sunderland, has been what the system we play asks of the player in that position.

EMC looked fine in most games recently but I'd have started Simms with Wright on the left tonight even if EMC was fit. Don't think he nailed his spot down.
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I think Simms up top, should potentially help the defence because he should be able to hold the ball up better than Wright.
 
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skybluejeff

New Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #389
Hincha said:
Collins
MvE - Lati - Binks - Kitching - JDS
Sheaf - Grimes - Rudoni
Simms - Wright
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Don't hate it
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Good shout, especially against a team who perform better against the more adventurous sides.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #390
SkyBlue_Adam said:
It’s very naive to believe that a fans forum will be the source for the opposition ahead of a game
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Why?

Teams would be stupid not to monitor social media and sites like this. Don’t have to take it all at face value, but some extra prep on the likes of Lati in case he is starting would be pretty valuable I imagine.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #391
So are we sticking Thomas and EMC back in our predicted line ups or what?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #392
If my club has a chess fixture and I know in advance who my opponent is, preparation is obviously easier. If it extended to my opponent telling me what their plan would be, even more so. Doesn’t guarantee me a win, but boosts my chances.

It’s naive not to think in a super high stakes sport with multi million pound squads that people won’t try to get whatever competitive edge they can. So whoever in the club is doing it needs some discipline
 
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ccfcricoh

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #393
lets just say Ruben Selles did spend his Sunday evening browsing SBT and knows about our "potential" injuries.

He has no idea what changes Frank would make, and he's working with a squad of players who are 20th, so there's unlikely much he can do with the news anyway

We are too good for them and should beat them, we have too much quality with or without injuries

Cue 2.1 loss and the whole Hull team picking on Thomas' replacement whilst not playing a right back because they know EMC is out as well
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #394
ccfcricoh said:
lets just say Ruben Selles did spend his Sunday evening browsing SBT and knows about our "potential" injuries.

He has no idea what changes Frank would make, and he's working with a squad of players who are 20th, so there's unlikely much he can do with the news anyway

We are too good for them and should beat them, we have too much quality with or without injuries

Cue 2.1 loss and the whole Hull team picking on Thomas' replacement whilst not playing a right back because they know EMC is out as well
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As an educated guess, Wright goes out on the left, Simms down the middle and Lati at RCB. We don’t have that many options either.
 
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MusicDating

Euro 2016 Prediction League Champion!!
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #395
SkyBlue_Adam said:
It’s very naive to believe that a fans forum will be the source for the opposition ahead of a game
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Ange Postecoglou on Tottenham team news leak: 'Somebody is leaking Spurs team news'

Tottenham Hotspur manager Ange Postecoglou says he has "no doubt" somebody at the club has been leaking team news this season.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #396
David O'Day said:
why? no one at the club is telling hull our team

if they do find out it would be via the same way we would fund out so if no one actually posted the info or passed it n they would not know

unless you are saying someone at the club is leaking directly to the opposition which is serious
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What I mean is, people leaking things from the club aren’t just going to Saddle and stopping there

And going back to football being a small world, we face Kasey Palmer tonight. His best mate is our Left Back, you would think they would have spoken about the game (not accusing Dasilva of leaking info)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #397
SkyBlue_Adam said:
What I mean is, people leaking things from the club aren’t just going to Saddle and stopping there

And going back to football being a small world, we face Kasey Palmer tonight. His best mate is our Left Back, you would think they would have spoken about the game (not accusing Dasilva of leaking info)
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Likewise Waghorn had lots of mates at Derby he’d have spoken to.
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #398
ccfcricoh said:
lets just say Ruben Selles did spend his Sunday evening browsing SBT and knows about our "potential" injuries.

He has no idea what changes Frank would make, and he's working with a squad of players who are 20th, so there's unlikely much he can do with the news anyway

We are too good for them and should beat them, we have too much quality with or without injuries

Cue 2.1 loss and the whole Hull team picking on Thomas' replacement whilst not playing a right back because they know EMC is out as well
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Such a naïve view of championship football. You don't think Hull will be doing plenty of player specific prep work?
 

Covkid1968#

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #399
Lamps said:
What an entertaining read this was

It would take a very brave manager to choose his team because of what an anonymous person has said on a website full of idiots arguing with each other. Especially if he looks back a bit further and sees people taking the p1ss for him getting things wrong
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Ffs… idiots???? . Surely you must know that there are numerous experts on SBT from multiple disiplines. From physiotherapists to experts in contagious diseases to sports psychologists. If I need a view on something really important in any area of life … I just pop on here.
 
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shepardo01

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #400
SkyBlue_Adam said:
What I mean is, people leaking things from the club aren’t just going to Saddle and stopping there

And going back to football being a small world, we face Kasey Palmer tonight. His best mate is our Left Back, you would think they would have spoken about the game (not accusing Dasilva of leaking info)
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This.
Players have friends in the game. They will talk.
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #401
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Would that be Palmer or Hagi Wright?
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You don’t go to games then?
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #402
Kilclines curly mullet said:
Just out of interest, if Palmer had stayed, who would he play ahead of in our current squad ?
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Torp today.
 

Torquay Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #403
Flying Fokker said:
You don’t go to games then?
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I go to as many as I can and I think Wright can be a bit off his game now and again. Some might say inconsistent. That possibly comes across a bit picky. Just my opinion
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #404
Gibbo said:
I knew somebody would say that. He only played 5-3-2 until people returned from injury and I think it was what he inherited.

He is a down the line 4-3-3 man. It was said before he arrived and has proved so since. He is not like Robins who pulled the odd rabbit out of the hat. You see his lack of flexibility in the use of subs; he's even worse than Robins. Prem managers regularly make a change at half time.
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Wrong. He's an elite tactician, Doug told us so.
 

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #405
Lamps said:
Are
Are you saying that you don't think Lampard is a good manager?
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I think the jury is out.

We are still well within the honeymoon period of 'New Manager Bounce'. We are playing a bit better - faster transition from defence to attack in particular, but have relied on some late late winners to get us a victory. Without the four since Bristol (the start of the good run) we would be 11th and regarding Frank as a bit meh, having dragged us up a mere 5 places.

But weaknesses highlighted by Derby fans are beginning to show - inflexible, not so good when things run against you. Bit like he was as a player.

You will not have a complete opinion until the first 10-15 games next season.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #406
stay_up_skyblues said:
If true Sheaf, Binks and Simms in is my guess. Haji out left.
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Paterson out left?
 

skybluecam

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #407
Gibbo said:
Without the four since Bristol (the start of the good run) we would be 11th and regarding Frank as a bit meh, having dragged us up a mere 5 places.
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Gibbo

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #408
skybluecam said:
Wrong. He's an elite tactician, Doug told us so.
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The Mandy Rice Davies Rule applies (look her up) 'He would say that wouldn't he'
 

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #409
Saddlebrains said:
Like I say to you all the time

No opposition side looks at a forum of rambling sad bastards like us lot for any sort of tactical insight

It harms no one, stop worrying about it
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They'll have there own sources anyway
 
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Covcraig@bury

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #410
Covkid1968# said:
Ffs… idiots???? . Surely you must know that there are numerous experts on SBT from multiple disiplines. From physiotherapists to experts in contagious diseases to sports psychologists. If I need a view on something really important in any area of life … I just pop on here.
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Anyone know the best cure for piles ? Asking for a friend
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #411
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
Not really, they're two entirely different distinctions.

By me saying it's not a massive blow that's me saying that while there's a negative impact, it's not a catastrophic one. Saying it's not an issue means there's no issue whatsoever.

Thomas being out is a massive blow as there's no replacement apart from Lati and Binks who shouldn't be anywhere a starting XI unless absolutely necessary.

And well done you've just repeated exactly what I just said. If Wright remains injury free I don't think it's much of an issue. That's not to say I don't think it's non-ideal as we'll need rotation in the final stretch. But it's not a catastrophe.
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It's an improvement for me!
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #412
Gibbo said:
I think the jury is out.

We are still well within the honeymoon period of 'New Manager Bounce'. We are playing a bit better - faster transition from defence to attack in particular, but have relied on some late late winners to get us a victory. Without the four since Bristol (the start of the good run) we would be 11th and regarding Frank as a bit meh, having dragged us up a mere 5 places.

But weaknesses highlighted by Derby fans are beginning to show - inflexible, not so good when things run against you. Bit like he was as a player.

You will not have a complete opinion until the first 10-15 games next season.
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What are you on about? Ignoring the stuff about the jury being out because late winners don't count for some reason... he was an absolutely fantastic player.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #413
Para1140 said:
Well the itk news has hit the Hull forum so you can bet someone at the club is also aware now
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They would almost certainly know anyway
 

Gibbo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #414
Saddlebrains said:
I've not said anything on twitter, never do with any ITK stuff just share it on here
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I also suspect the opposition are much more concerned about formation than actual players. They will not change their approach just because it is Lati or Binks rather than Thomas.

Every team is missing players now, this just a test of a manager's mettle
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #415
Frank Lampard:

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Team of the Year: 3 times
Premier League Player of the Month: 4 times
Chelsea Player of the Year: 3 times
FIFA World Player of the Year (Silver Award): 2005 (runner-up to Ronaldinho)
Ballon d'Or Runner-Up: 2005
Chelsea’s All-Time Leading Goalscorer: 211 goals
Most goals by a Premier League midfielder: 177
Only midfielder to score 10+ goals in 10 consecutive PL seasons
Over 100 Premier League assists
Played over 1,000 professional games across club and country

Winner of
Premier League x 3
FA Cup x 4
League Cup x 2
Champions League
Europa League

But yeah, apart from that. Not so good when things are against him.
 
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Gibbo

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #416
TomRad85 said:
What are you on about? Ignoring the stuff about the jury being out because late winners don't count for some reason... he was an absolutely fantastic player.
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He was a highly inflexible player. In the contest with Gerrard, it was always Gerrard (the better and more varied player) who had to give way because Lampard could only do one thing - attacking midfield - but was no good in a defensive role. At least Gerrard could do that, or had to completely give way to a specialist defensive midfielder like Gareth Barry. Formation was drive in part by Lampard's limitations
 
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Gibbo

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #417
Liquid Gold said:
Frank Lampard:

FWA Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Team of the Year: 3 times
Premier League Player of the Month: 4 times
Chelsea Player of the Year: 3 times
FIFA World Player of the Year (Silver Award): 2005 (runner-up to Ronaldinho)
Ballon d'Or Runner-Up: 2005
Chelsea’s All-Time Leading Goalscorer: 211 goals
Most goals by a Premier League midfielder: 177
Only midfielder to score 10+ goals in 10 consecutive PL seasons
Over 100 Premier League assists
Played over 1,000 professional games across club and country

Winner of
Premier League x 3
FA Cup x 4
League Cup x 2
Champions League
Europa League

But yeah, apart from that. Not so good when things are against him.
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It's a team game
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #418
Gibbo said:
He was a highly inflexible player. In the contest with Gerrard, it was always Gerrard (the better and more varied player) who had to give way because Lampard could only do one thing - attacking midfield - but was no good in a defensive role. At least Gerrard could do that, or had to completely give way to a specialist defensive midfielder like Gareth Barry. Formation was drive in part by Lampard's limitations
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Hardly, Gerrard got 114 caps to Lampard's 106. The simple fact is that successive England managers felt it worth playing them both because they were both world class central midfielders.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #419
David O'Day said:
unless you are saying someone at the club is leaking directly to the opposition which is serious
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The irony is that if one of our players or club staff was found to have leaked team info online then it would most likely become a major scandal and have people questioning their loyalty etc. Whereas fans leaking the same info becomes some kind of badge of honour/public service.
 
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Briles

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  • Apr 14, 2025
  • #420
SBT said:
The irony is that if one of our players or club staff was found to have leaked team info online then it would most likely become a major scandal and have people questioning their loyalty etc. Whereas fans leaking the same info becomes some kind of badge of honour/public service.
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I'm pretty sure that all staff/players know stuff will be leaked. It's not like it's down to people with binoculars in a bush anymore. If a players injured he isn't sworn to secrecy by the GDPR fairy.
 
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