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Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,156
clint van damme said:
That was just a couple of examples.

But just to clarify, does a pass that creates a chance have to be over a certain distance now?
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Only if it’s O Hare - if it was the other way round it would be clever play by Allen (a player who has scored one goal a season in the championship) and another wasted shot from o hare
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,157
clint van damme said:
That was just a couple of examples.

But just to clarify, does a pass that creates a chance have to be over a certain distance now?
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No, Allen created his own chance/space for a shot, a 5 yard pass in their half, doesn't constitute creating a chance. I'd expect Sunday league players to be able to do that.
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,158
Grendel said:
Only if it’s O Hare - if it was the other way round it would be clever play by Allen (a player who has scored one goal a season in the championship) and another wasted shot from o hare
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What do you mean? O'Hare has by no means ever been a scapegoat in our shirt, he's does some good work, just when hes in the final 3rd he's awful.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,159
Skyblue_CP said:
No, Allen created his own chance/space for a shot, a 5 yard pass in their half, doesn't constitute creating a chance. I'd expect Sunday league players to be able to do that.
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'A 5 yard pass in their half doesnt constitute creating a chance'

I've read some nonsense on this forum but fuck me.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,160
clint van damme said:
'A 5 yard pass in their half doesnt constitute creating a chance'

I've read some nonsense on this forum but fuck me.
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Any Sunday league player does that so it doesn’t count
 
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LilleSkyBlue

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,161
One of the least flattering kits I've ever seen - those white socks look terrible with the pink and blue shirts.

Hummel have been great, but this is bad.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,162
clint van damme said:
'A 5 yard pass in their half doesnt constitute creating a chance'

I've read some nonsense on this forum but fuck me.
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Fair enough, so you would class the 5 yard inside pass on the halfway line from Dabo to Walsh when he went on a mazy run and scored as Dabo creating a chance? The fact some people still try to defend O'Hare's ability in the final 3rd is nothing short of embarrassing. His workrate is brilliant all over the pitch is busy, and opens up space. On the ball in and around opposition penalty areas he is poor.
 

larry_david

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,163
Ccfcisparks said:
Get Godden off hes been anonymous
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Good shout
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,164
Skyblue_CP said:
Fair enough, so you would class the 5 yard inside pass on the halfway line from Dabo to Walsh when he went on a mazy run and scored as Dabo creating a chance? The fact some people still try to defend O'Hare's ability in the final 3rd is nothing short of embarrassing. His workrate is brilliant all over the pitch is busy, and opens up space. On the ball in and around opposition penalty areas he is poor.
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The scenario you give is universally classed as an assist everywhere in football except your house by the sound of it.

And I've can't think of one post that's tried to defend O'Hares limitations in the final third, everyone acknowledges it.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,165
larry_david said:
Good shout
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There was also the infamous deleted one just before the goal
 
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Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,166
clint van damme said:
The scenario you give is universally classed as an assist everywhere in football except your house by the sound of it.

And I've can't think of one post that's tried to defend O'Hares limitations in the final third, everyone acknowledges it.
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I'd say there probably is a difference to a statistical assist and actually creating a chance,

We completely agree then.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,167
Skyblue_CP said:
I'd say there probably is a difference to a statistical assist and actually creating a chance,

We completely agree then.
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So if Dabo did not play the pass Walsh scores anyway?
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,168
CCFCSteve said:
I don’t mind sideways to create space if tempos right but we have a habit of playing the ball behind players who then have to slow down or check back
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Think that’s a little bit of lack of quality showing. Our better players do this a lot less than some. Really frustrating though. Same as the needless balls off the ground that take two touches to control.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,169
Skyblue_CP said:
I'd say there probably is a difference to a statistical assist and actually creating a chance,

We completely agree then.
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Statistical assist! Jesus!
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,170
Grendel said:
So if Dabo did not play the pass Walsh scores anyway?
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Kelly didn't assist Godden against Bristol, ditto O'Hare for Vik against Fulham.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,171
clint van damme said:
Kelly didn't assist Godden against Bristol, ditto O'Hare for Vik against Fulham.
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Fair enough, you don't seem to be able to comprehend the difference between creating a clear goalscoring opportunity and a routine 5 yard pass 50 yards from goal. Stats don't lie I guess.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,172
Grendel said:
So if Dabo did not play the pass Walsh scores anyway?
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Agreed, I've obviously miss understood the massive involvement Dabo had in that goal.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,173
Skyblue_CP said:
Fair enough, you don't seem to be able to comprehend the difference between creating a clear goalscoring opportunity and a routine 5 yard pass 50 yards from goal. Stats don't lie I guess.
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Oh dear.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,174
clint van damme said:
Oh dear.
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Can you explain to me, what's so baffling?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,175
Skyblue_CP said:
Can you explain to me, what's so baffling?
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For a start, O'Hares 5 yard ball wasn't 50 yards out.
And secondly, it's madness to suggest the ball he slipped through to Allen wasn't creating a chance.
As I said, you would have to apply the same logic to Kelly's assist against Bristol City, which again would be madness.
 

Skyblue_CP

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,176
clint van damme said:
For a start, O'Hares 5 yard ball wasn't 50 yards out.
And secondly, it's madness to suggest the ball he slipped through to Allen wasn't creating a chance.
As I said, you would have to apply the same logic to Kelly's assist against Bristol City, which again would be madness.
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Fair enough, it was closer than I thought, I thought Allen had done more. However were arguing over minor details, when we both agree that he's awful infront of goal, and lacks any real quality on the ball.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,177
Am a bit thrown out for time now though. Have had more time than usual to do stuff after getting home, but it feels like the game was yesterday rather than earlier.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,178
Grendel said:
So if Dabo did not play the pass Walsh scores anyway?
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Have you not in the past dismissed assists as a statistical tool?
 
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Gibbo

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,179
Three thoughts from abroad

For a bloke who cost £750k (I believe) when he was playing for Peterborough Reseves, we have had very good return on our investment in Godden over 3 years

I still remain very dubious that Jones will ever make it at this or any level, as I think he is just too physically fragile. But those clips from the U23 game earlier this week showed he still has very quick feet and today he provided an assist with a cross. So who knows?

We have a mid-table aquad that is flattering to deceive. This was an away point against a top half club. That is just fine.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,180
Gibbo said:
Three thoughts from abroad

For a bloke who cost £750k (I believe) when he was playing for Peterborough Reseves, we have had very good return on our investment in Godden over 3 years

I still remain very dubious that Jones will ever make it at this or any level, as I think he is just too physically fragile. But those clips from the U23 game earlier this week showed he still has very quick feet and today he provided an assist with a cross. So who knows?

We have a mid-table aquad that is flattering to deceive. This was an away point against a top half club. That is just fine.
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If we’re flattering to deceive fuck knows what Huddersfield are doing.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,181
in my opinion those people who think O Hare should be replaced by Jones cant actually watch the games !
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,182
Well done tp the SBA today:

from the Huddersfield forum (and repeated on various social media)..........

Out-thought, out-fought and very much out-sung.

Coventry fans were excellent today both before and after they went behind. We had no reply either on the pitch or in the stands.

Sadly for us they absolutely deserved that late equaliser.
 
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larry_david

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,183
skybluegod said:
The sky commentators said 'i don't know where he has got 6 minutes from there have only been a few stoppages.' fucking lees wasted 6 minutes alone the two times he went down!
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Please tell me they didn't say that
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,184
Mcbean said:
in my opinion those people who think O Hare should be replaced by Jones cant actually watch the games !
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Personally I don’t think that. Not yet anyway. But if COH carries on flapping it in front of goal, and JJ keeps himself fit and produces goals/assists off the bench, surely it’s a possibility that he could be chosen ahead of him, should the set up ever call for it.
 

FulltimeWum

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,185
Tommo1993 said:
Am a bit thrown out for time now though. Have had more time than usual to do stuff after getting home, but it feels like the game was yesterday rather than earlier.
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Took 3 hours to travel 60 miles by train.
 

Tommo1993

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,186
FulltimeWum said:
Took 3 hours to travel 60 miles by train.
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Crikey. Did it go via Norwich?
 

Gint11

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,187
I thought overall it was a really good performance and dominated them from start to finish. One lack of concentration and we went 1-0 down, Great finish though.
Our problem today was final 3rd but at least we played higher up the pitch and on the front foot which we didn’t do much of against the baggies.

7th going into Xmas period. We’re doing well.
 
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FulltimeWum

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,188
Via the TGV station in Stalybridge.
 
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Sky

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,189
In other news - just seen Maatsen at the gym training legs..couldn't think of anything to say so just made awkward eye contact several times
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Dec 11, 2021
  • #1,190
Good to see Jamie Allen back to the form from September when he forced himself back into contention. Pleasing performance despite not getting the deserved 3 points. I think Dabo’ time is up and Maatsen will start at LWB against Stoke with Kane on the right. Great to see JJ come on, looking dangerous and creating the goal. He will be an important player for the 2nd half of the season. I do think we need a big spoiler in the middle to break up play
 
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