How popular will wasps be? (1 Viewer)

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

I have now heard a few people at work who are not wasps fans they are from the Birmingham region. They and their friends/ partners intend to travel to the Ricoh to watch wasps and they are quite excited about it.

It is bizarre to me some normally go to Northampton. Yet they claim the Ricoh will be easier to get to, so that's it off they go to wasps???A couple class themselves as London Irish fans.

A couple said they just like watching top level rugby and don't care who plays.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
I have now heard a few people at work who are not wasps fans they are from the Birmingham region. They and their friends/ partners intend to travel to the Ricoh to watch wasps and they are quite excited about it.

It is bizarre to me some normally go to Northampton. Yet they claim the Ricoh will be easier to get to, so that's it off they go to wasps???A couple class themselves as London Irish fans.

A couple said they just like watching top level rugby and don't care who plays.

That's what Wasps are relying on.

Nick · Oct 14, 2014

Loads of freebies floating round the council house then?

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

I was quite shocked by it.
Maybe where I am is not representational but I didn't think I would come across one to be honest.

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 14, 2014

I hope it is a huge failure for them and nobody turns up.

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

Nick said:
Loads of freebies floating round the council house then?

I don't think you get many residents of Birmingham working in Coventry City Council. In in the finer details Nick

wingy · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
I was quite shocked by it.
Maybe where I am is not representational but I didn't think I would come across one to be honest.

Let alone the likely level of corporate,thousands of JAG/LR workers In the region.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 14, 2014

Nick said:
Loads of freebies floating round the council house then?

Birmingham Council House?

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

Terry Gibson's perm said:
I hope it is a huge failure for them and nobody turns up.

These people are travelling from different parts of Brum, madness.

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
These people are travelling from different parts of Brum, madness.

It's a lot closer for a lot of Brummies to travel here than Coventry people traveling to Leicester or Northampton.

Terry Gibson's perm · Oct 14, 2014

They could give me free tickets and a free pie and I still wouldn't go can't stand rugby.

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
It's a lot closer for a lot of Brummies to travel here than Coventry people traveling to Leicester or Northampton.

I suppose it will become their local top level team.
So in my limited knowledge if Rigby do wasps now get a fan catchment area covering Coventry Birmingham and Warwickshire in terms if top level rugby?

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
I suppose it will become their iCal too level team.
So in my limited knowledge if Rigby do wasps now get a fan catchment area covering Coventry Birmingham and Warwickshire in terms if top level rugby?

Yes it will, only two top flight Midlands teams Leicester and Northampton massive catchment area

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Yes it will, only two top flight Midlands teams Leicester and Northampton massive catchment area

That's about 1.7 million people.

I appreciate only minority would watch top level rugby, but bloody hell

stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

5-6k regular after the initial interest has died down.

Looking at leicester tigers ticket prices - cat a £45 per ticket, cat b £35 per ticket, cat c £25 per ticket.

Talking to a leicester fan today, their ST's are work out a lot more than the £17 per game I pay in block 20.

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dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

stupot07 said:
5-6k regular after the initial interest has died down.

Looking at leicester tigers ticket prices - cat a £45 per ticket, cat b £35 per ticket, cat c £25 per ticket.

Talking to a leicester fan today, their ST's are work out a lot more than the £17 per game I pay in block 20.

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£45 quid where do you sit in the Ricoh for that!!

Sorry that's Leicester's prices?

stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
£45 quid where do you sit in the Ricoh for that!!

Sorry that's Leicester's prices?

Yes, leicester tigers prices. I'd imagine wasps must be on par. It is a middle class game after all.

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dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

stupot07 said:
Yes, leicester tigers prices. I'd imagine wasps must be on par. It is a middle class game after all.

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I wonder if wasps plan to do cheap prices initially in order to establish a fans base

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

Leicester get an average of nearly 23,000 at those prices.
The average for the league is 12,000.
I take it you only think wasps will get 6-7k initially with it riding over the years as they settle?

stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
I wonder if wasps plan to do cheap prices initially in order to establish a fans base

Doubt it. Their owner doesn't want to fund losses, I can see 1 or 2 cheap games but I doubt they would do it as standard across the season.

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dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

If he is dropping into a catchment area that big I can see why he is prepared to take a chance.
What a shame Cov Rugby club never made it back to the top

stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
Leicester get an average of nearly 23,000 at those prices.
The average for the league is 12,000.
I take it you only think wasps will get 6-7k initially with it riding over the years as they settle?

No, I expect it to be high initially 7-8k, then drop down to 5-6k. The league average may be 12k, but last season Wasps only averaged 5.7k.

Leicester have been playing in Leicester for 130 years, they have been the premier rugby club of the midlands for years, they have built up a very strong fan base of year and years of tradition.

Given the choice I would sooner travel to leicester to watch them than go to the Ricoh to watch wasps.

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stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
If he is dropping into a catchment area that big I can see why he is prepared to take a chance.
What a shame Cov Rugby club never made it back to the top

Yes, and now they never will, wasps will never allow it. It's also a shame we will probably never make it back to the top.

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Sick Boy · Oct 14, 2014

I hope the whole thing fails and the franchise goes out of business.

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

stupot07 said:
Yes, and now they never will, wasps will never allow it. It's also a shame we will probably never make it back to the top.

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No they will be a feeder club

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 14, 2014

stupot07 said:
5-6k regular after the initial interest has died down.

Looking at leicester tigers ticket prices - cat a £45 per ticket, cat b £35 per ticket, cat c £25 per ticket.

Talking to a leicester fan today, their ST's are work out a lot more than the £17 per game I pay in block 20.

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Ticket prices are actually between £18 and £58. I think you may be shocked at the number that will go,I'm sticking with CCFC and Cov.

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

Sick Boy said:
I hope the whole thing fails and the franchise goes out of business.

I just can't see it failing with that catchment area and rugby attendances rising last year.

Unless the demographic of that catchment area won't fancy rugby. It just shocked me to hear people from Brum getting excited

Broken Hearted Sky Blue · Oct 14, 2014

stupot07 said:
No, I expect it to be high initially 7-8k, then drop down to 5-6k. The league average may be 12k, but last season Wasps only averaged 5.7k.

Leicester have been playing in Leicester for 130 years, they have been the premier rugby club of the midlands for years, they have built up a very strong fan base of year and years of tradition.

Given the choice I would sooner travel to leicester to watch them than go to the Ricoh to watch wasps.

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Wouldn't go to either

wingy · Oct 14, 2014

stupot07 said:
No, I expect it to be high initially 7-8k, then drop down to 5-6k. The league average may be 12k, but last season Wasps only averaged 5.7k.

Leicester have been playing in Leicester for 130 years, they have been the premier rugby club of the midlands for years, they have built up a very strong fan base of year and years of tradition.

Given the choice I would sooner travel to leicester to watch them than go to the Ricoh to watch wasps.

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possibly to the point of being oversubscribed .

stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
I just can't see it failing with that catchment area and rugby attendances rising last year.

Unless the demographic of that catchment area won't fancy rugby. It just shocked me to hear people from Brum getting excited

How big is their catchment area now? If we're including a couple of counties around here?

Buckinghamshire - 500k
1/4-1/2 of London - 2-4m
Berkshire - 863k

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mds · Oct 14, 2014

Dont care wont guess, wrong sport wrong site!

stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

wingy said:
possibly to the point of being oversubscribed .

Sorry Wingy, you talking about leicester tigers?

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Mr T - Sukka! · Oct 14, 2014

Who really cares how many fans are in the Ricoh on a Sunday? When CCFC are not playing.

Are we going to have a count on the number of Jehova Whitnesses during the close season aswell?

I dont get the hysteria and people acting like girls.

Maybe just maybe a new owner of ACL may lead to better relationship for CCFC.

dongonzalos · Oct 14, 2014

stupot07 said:
How big is their catchment area now? If we're including a couple of counties around here?

Buckinghamshire - 500k
1/4-1/2 of London - 2-4m
Berkshire - 863k

If that have a catchment area that big now why are they getting half the average of the league?

Are they poor?

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stupot07 · Oct 14, 2014

dongonzalos said:
I just can't see it failing with that catchment area and rugby attendances rising last year.

Unless the demographic of that catchment area won't fancy rugby. It just shocked me to hear people from Brum getting excited

According to the Independent attendances dropped last year:

From march this year

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...t-best-players-and-bigger-crowds-9223856.html

The demand for change coincides with the negative news that more than half the teams in the Aviva Premiership have suffered a fall in attendances this season compared with the record levels of four years ago.

London Irish, London Wasps, Newcastle Falcons, Northampton Saints, Sale Sharks, Saracens and Worcester Warriors have each seen crowds drop for regular home matches compared with the boom year of 2009-10, when the Premiership had its record average attendance since leagues began in 1987.

Wasps have been hardest hit, with the average crowd at Adams Park tumbling from 8,542 in 2009-10 to 5,759 this season, a 32.58 per cent reduction.

Even at the four clubs where crowds have risen – Bath (plus 1.87 per cent), Gloucester (8.69 per cent), Harlequins (10.31 per cent) and Leicester (0.6 per cent) – their stadiums are often short of being sold out.

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