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How on earth did we not get promoted last season?? (8 Viewers)

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  • Start date Oct 23, 2016
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Mcbean

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #36
I saw some critcism of Cole here - i thought he did'nt do a bad job for us - when JOB left we went pearshaped - was that TM or JOB - Kent also provided an outlet as we don't have today
 

robbiekeane

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #37
Mcbean said:
I saw some critcism of Cole here - i thought he did'nt do a bad job for us - when JOB left we went pearshaped - was that TM or JOB - Kent also provided an outlet as we don't have today
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Not going a bad job for us isnt a good enough return on pissing about force fitting the whole team around him, consistantly wasting a starting 11 spot on him and subsequent substitution while he built his fitness up, and god knows how much budget.

He fell in love with the idea of signing a coup who has experience in higher leagues. Because of his stupid fascination with him and Bigi we fell off
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #38
robbiekeane said:
Not going a bad job for us isnt a good enough return on pissing about force fitting the whole team around him, consistantly wasting a starting 11 spot on him and subsequent substitution while he built his fitness up, and god knows how much budget.

He fell in love with the idea of signing a coup who has experience in higher leagues. Because of his stupid fascination with him and Bigi we fell off
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Correct the Cole Experiment failed.
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #39
i wouldnt say he fell in love with anything. he clearly throught experience and superior ability could make a big difference. after all it was his plan A for this season too. unfortuntley he didnt get the targets thiough

joe cole was always good when i saw him
 
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Mcbean

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #40
Bit harsh - i'm with Covcity4life - granted he did not have the Dennis Wise effect but he had some effect and a few goals plus free kicks which we now waste everytime
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #41
Mcbean said:
Bit harsh - i'm with Covcity4life - granted he did not have the Dennis Wise effect but he had some effect and a few goals plus free kicks which we now waste everytime
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The irony of someone with your username trying to back mowbrays signings is hilarious
 

Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #42
Perryccfc said:
Yea I don't have a clue. You're a fucking muppet Nick.
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Why didn't we get promoted last season then?

Is Tony Mowbray to blame?
 
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nmp2327

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #43
robbiekeane said:
Didn't mowbray sign about 5 players in January?
Ramage henderson Cole bigi hunt?? None of those would have been cheap signings and Mowbray chose to sign them. How can you say the owners didn't back him when he signed that load of shite?

Are our fans this stupid or do they know they're talking complete shit but don't care because it's easier?
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How much was spent on these players, answer zero hence no investment of the right type of below.
 

Grendel

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #44
nmp2327 said:
How much was spent on these players, answer zero hence no investment of the right type of below.
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They weren't paid anything? Wow.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #45
Grendel said:
They weren't paid anything? Wow.
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And people say football players are greedy??
 

robbiekeane

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #46
nmp2327 said:
How much was spent on these players, answer zero hence no investment of the right type of below.
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Hold on mowbray had his own budget and made that very clear. Whether he spent it on wages or transfers was his choice.
 
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Nick

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #47
nmp2327 said:
How much was spent on these players, answer zero hence no investment of the right type of below.
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So the manager didn't have an unlimited budget like the rest of league one, you are right, it's outrageous.
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #48
Changing a winning formula to accommodate Cole and the return of Maddison. Losing Kent, Reda, Turner
 

stupot07

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #49
Macca said:
Changing a winning formula to accommodate Cole and the return of Maddison. Losing Kent, Reda, Turner
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I'd add continued rotating of the midfield and lack of plan b

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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #50
nmp2327 said:
How much was spent on these players, answer zero hence no investment of the right type of below.
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You are a very simple man.
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #51
stupot07 said:
I'd add continued rotating of the midfield and lack of plan b
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I have to admit it was the worst season I can remember because of the sheer fall from grace. Would have been easier to take if we'd have been shit all season
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #52
Macca said:
I have to admit it was the worst season I can remember because of the sheer fall from grace. Would have been easier to take if we'd have been shit all season
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This I have to agree on. We finished 8th but it felt like a very poor season due to the momentus slide down the table.

It felt so much like failure as we seemed to be destined for top 6 minimum.

I can't see how it can be judged as anything other than a failure when we missed out on a play-off place having had a place firmly held within our grasp.
 
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skybluelee

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  • Oct 25, 2016
  • #53
Hobo said:
Biggest problem was our fans got carried away and over estimated our ability. The first half flattered us. Yes we were in a great position but Walsall and Burton. around Christmas were the tests; they broke our backs.

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The frustrating thing is we dominated the Walsall match for the first hour, and were comfortably the better side in the first half v Burton. It was only after Phillips' inexcusable mistake that it fell apart.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #54
skybluelee said:
The frustrating thing is we dominated the Walsall match for the first hour, and were comfortably the better side in the first half v Burton. It was only after Phillips' inexcusable mistake that it fell apart.
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That was a big, big turning point.

The second that goal went it, it was like all life and belief was sucked out of us.
 

covcity4life

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #55
and to think people stood up for phillips!

and even now people say stuff like sterry is ok,nothing more

but hes still alottttttttt better than phillips

upgrade
 
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4waspsting

Active Member
  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #56
rupert_bear said:
Poor management purely and simply.
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You hit the nail on the head, and then he did a runner with his tail between his legs.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #57
You know, with all the argument about cole, or rotation, or Mowbray etc, I still believe that if we had a fit Reda or Ben Turner in for the whole season, then we would have finished in the top 6.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #58
Otis said:
This I have to agree on. We finished 8th but it felt like a very poor season due to the momentus slide down the table.

It felt so much like failure as we seemed to be destined for top 6 minimum.

I can't see how it can be judged as anything other than a failure when we missed out on a play-off place having had a place firmly held within our grasp.
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before the season people who liked your status were saying 10th would be good

lol fickle
 

Sky Blue Kid

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #59
I believe if Turner hadn't got injured, we'd be playing Championship football today.
 
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Sky Blue Kid

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #60
covcity4life said:
before the season people who liked your status were saying 10th would be good

lol fickle
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Nothing to do with being fickle cc4l. It's not the finishing 8th(Normally good finish) but the way we finished 8th that is s**t.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #61
Sky Blue Kid said:
Nothing to do with being fickle cc4l. It's not the finishing 8th(Normally good finish) but the way we finished 8th that is s**t.
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and that is completly udnerstandable. i agree mate. but its now october, time to take a step back and realise it wasnt a awful season overall.
 

Otis

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #62
covcity4life said:
before the season people who liked your status were saying 10th would be good

lol fickle
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Yeah, BEFORE the season.

During the season we were top, then top 3 for some time and then top 6 and 11 points clear of 7th.

Doesn't matter what we believed before the season started. We outdid ourselves and what we predicted previously was irrelevant.

Surely we should only be focusing on the position we were in when we were entrenched in the top 6 and totally blew it.
 
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Otis

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #63
Sky Blue Kid said:
Nothing to do with being fickle cc4l. It's not the finishing 8th(Normally good finish) but the way we finished 8th that is s**t.
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Absolutely.

Spot on.
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #64
If turner stayed fit he'd have gone back to Cardiff anyway as their centre half got injured the week after,
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #65
robbiekeane said:
Hold on mowbray had his own budget and made that very clear. Whether he spent it on wages or transfers was his choice.
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Seems he must have exceeded it too.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #66
covcity4life said:
and to think people stood up for phillips!

and even now people say stuff like sterry is ok,nothing more

but hes still alottttttttt better than phillips

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Well it's all about opinions, but I see little in Sterry or Page over our own grown players apart from physique.
Which is naturally a factor in this league.
However I think Kelly Evans, Haynes and Harries can justifiably wonder just what they've done wrong.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #67
Two biggest factors were: loss of JOB and arrival of Cole and Madders actually reduced our dynamism going forward and made Areas goals dry up. And losing Read then Turner meant the ball stayed down our end more again meaning less chances for our sterling attack.

The fact that a big fucker and someone with JOBs energy in the middle weren't top of our transfer list is one reason I don't mind losing Mowbray even though I rated him. It was clear how important a big fucker at the back is and we either aimed too high or failed to identify enough targets.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #68
8th was a recovery of sorts wasn't it?
How low did we go 14th?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #69
shmmeee said:
Two biggest factors were: loss of JOB and arrival of Cole and Madders actually reduced our dynamism going forward and made Areas goals dry up. And losing Read then Turner meant the ball stayed down our end more again meaning less chances for our sterling attack.

The fact that a big fucker and someone with JOBs energy in the middle weren't top of our transfer list is one reason I don't mind losing Mowbray even though I rated him. It was clear how important a big fucker at the back is and we either aimed too high or failed to identify enough targets.
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Yes, we played at a quicker attacking tempo early on in the season. Cole's arrival slowed us down and Maddison on his comeback started to play like Cole.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Oct 26, 2016
  • #70
shmmeee said:
Two biggest factors were: loss of JOB and arrival of Cole and Madders actually reduced our dynamism going forward and made Areas goals dry up. And losing Read then Turner meant the ball stayed down our end more again meaning less chances for our sterling attack.

The fact that a big fucker and someone with JOBs energy in the middle weren't top of our transfer list is one reason I don't mind losing Mowbray even though I rated him. It was clear how important a big fucker at the back is and we either aimed too high or failed to identify enough targets.
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I'd just like take the opportunity to let you know how much I laughed loud at your repeated description of "big fucker" hahaha. Made my evening
 
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