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How much did swindon spend? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter Nick
  • Start date Jan 12, 2015
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Nick

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #1
Any idea on how much their squad has cost compared to ours? I suspect they will have spent a little bit but be interesting to see.
 

Senior Vick from Alicante

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #2
Spent 300k according to a caller on cwr
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #3
I imagine on wage bill they will be very similar to us, maybe even a tad lower as there squad contains barely any former championship players. For a lot of players they've paid nominal fees, generally they either pick up Tottenham reserves who never made the cut or L2/non league prospects for a cheap fee.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #4
Senior Vick from Alicante said:
Spent 300k according to a caller on cwr
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That was probably just this season, they spend 200k on Obika. Luongo who didn't play tonight cost 400k from spurs, 100k for Michael Smith upfront and a few other fees I think for Nathan Thomson, Gladwin, Byrne
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #5
Spent. £600k in the summer I heard on the radio while coming home. No idea if that's accurate or not.

Either way they probably spent more than us and most likely don't have the one in one out policy that we seem to have so whatever they're spending is building in team not replacing players with worse players.

Edit: Perhaps it was £300k as someone has already suggested. I was too busy thinking of ways to commit suicide on the way home to listen properly
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #6
stephen wright said at the start that they had invested heavily
 

sw88

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #7
skybluesam66 said:
stephen wright said at the start that they had invested heavily
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He can play RB. Reckon he'll come back to us?
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #8
skybluesam66 said:
stephen wright said at the start that they had invested heavily
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There wage bill is much lower than the Di Canio days I believe but there still showing ambition in the market whilst managing there budget effectively. They also sold a player for 1.4 million in the summer and got him loaned back for the season.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #9
skybluetony176 said:
Spent. £600k in the summer I heard on the radio while coming home. No idea if that's accurate or not.

Either way they probably spent more than us and most likely don't have the one in one out policy that we seem to have so whatever they're spending is building in team not replacing players with worse players.

Edit: Perhaps it was £300k as someone has already suggested. I was too busy thinking of ways to commit suicide on the way home to listen properly
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Don't know who on. It is hard to get accurate stats but they seem to have purchased 5 players one for a fee undisclosed. They have sold / released 16 including one for a fee and have 8 loans
 

skybluedan

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  • Jan 12, 2015
  • #10
Grendel said:
Don't know who on. It is hard to get accurate stats but they seem to have purchased 5 players one for a fee undisclosed. They have sold / released 16 including one for a fee and have 8 loans
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More importantly they have a half decent manager who gets his team playing football
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #11
When you sell a player for 3 million you should be able to making a replacement signing for at least 10% of that fee
 
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jimi_stfc

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #12
Our current Playing budget is £1.8m todays team consisted of the following:

GK - Fodringham - Sign from Palace ~ 3/4 years ago.

RB - Byrne - I think he was free after release from Spurs, not sure
CB - Stephens - Loan from Southamtpon
CB - Thompson N - Youth Product
CB - Turnball - Loan from Southampton
LB - Toffolo - Loan from Norwich

MC - Gladwin - signed from Marlow
MC - Thompson L - loan from Norwich [Youth product sold to Norwich for £1m+ in the summer]
MC - Swift - Loan from Chelsea [to cover Asian Cup internationals Kasim and Luongo]

SC - Williams - Signed from Yeovil about 3 years ago
SC - Smith - Signed from Charlton (maybe?) for about £200K

Todays squad probably ran to £600K with the subs

Thought you put us under more pressure in the second half where we struggled to keep possession as well, shame they moved the game from saturday as I wanted to visit the Richo.

- Jimi
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #13
So your wage bill is £1.8m and ours is (according to waggott) £2.7m.....


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Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #14
stupot07 said:
So your wage bill is £1.8m and ours is (according to waggott) £2.7m.....


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I thought that was our wage budget according to Waggott?
 
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jimi_stfc

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #15
Yes, it was more like 4m when Andrew Black was the owner and Di Canio was our manager...but Black pulled the money out Lee Power has worked hard to half our playing budget. There are a lot of loans in the side that allowed us to achieve that, but if you play good football the big teams will trust you with their youngsters - We had Ryan Mason on loan last season and he's starting in the prem for Spurs this season.

Always a risk due to lack of experience or maturity but they make up for it with passion and desire. My favourite thing to see is Williams or Smith making sliding challenges near our own area Also we get ourselves in a bit of bother with short goal kicks occasionally, but they're getting better at making those calls and they get it wrong less n less.

- Jimi
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #16
Cheers Jimi, always good to hear from opposition fans.
 
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jimi_stfc

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #17
No worries, I like to see how the opposition think things went, pretty refreshing on here. Normally people can find iffy decisions and such to blame results but you guys seem to share the view I had that we out played you for most of the game.

In terms of your manager/tactics I don't know your squad but you can't all be wrong so maybe it IS time for a change?

- Jimi
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #18
Nonleagueherewecome said:
I thought that was our wage budget according to Waggott?
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Yep...so our wage bill is 50% more than top of the league's........


.....so no excuse for pressley.


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Nonleagueherewecome

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #19
My point is that budget and wages actually being paid aren't always the same thing...but either way, the squad is under-achieving, we can agree on that.
 

Gazolba

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #20
CCFC said:
That was probably just this season, they spend 200k on Obika. Luongo who didn't play tonight cost 400k from spurs, 100k for Michael Smith upfront and a few other fees I think for Nathan Thomson, Gladwin, Byrne
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Good investment. They will easily recoup that after promotion. But that of course requires forward vision.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #21
jimi_stfc said:
Our current Playing budget is £1.8m todays team consisted of the following:

GK - Fodringham - Sign from Palace ~ 3/4 years ago.

RB - Byrne - I think he was free after release from Spurs, not sure
CB - Stephens - Loan from Southamtpon
CB - Thompson N - Youth Product
CB - Turnball - Loan from Southampton
LB - Toffolo - Loan from Norwich

MC - Gladwin - signed from Marlow
MC - Thompson L - loan from Norwich [Youth product sold to Norwich for £1m+ in the summer]
MC - Swift - Loan from Chelsea [to cover Asian Cup internationals Kasim and Luongo]

SC - Williams - Signed from Yeovil about 3 years ago
SC - Smith - Signed from Charlton (maybe?) for about £200K

Todays squad probably ran to £600K with the subs

Thought you put us under more pressure in the second half where we struggled to keep possession as well, shame they moved the game from saturday as I wanted to visit the Richo.

- Jimi
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Your certainly showing how to do it properly on a budget, good links with premier league club in getting loans for players looking for experience and picking up players who don't quite make the cut at that level and picking up some lower league talent for small transfer fees, mixed in with a few youth products. Better than our policy of signing former championship players who are on the decline and getting in loans who are not wanted at their parent club. Not sure how trustworth your chairman is though when it comes to discloing this sorta stuff. On another forum a fan has posted that your chairman said you have the third lowest budget in the division which I'm 100% sure is bull, although it certainly it isn't a big budget. Foderingham and Williams were both bought in during the Di Canio reign so I imagine they will be on decent wages.
 
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Noggin

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #22
stupot07 said:
Yep...so our wage bill is 50% more than top of the league's........


.....so no excuse for pressley.


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Waggot has never come close to saying what our wage bill is. The fact Waggot continues to use weasel and misleading words regarding ffp shows how we would be absolutely foolish to trust that he is a straight talker and assume budget = wage bill.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #23
Noggin said:
Waggot has never come close to saying what our wage bill is. The fact Waggot continues to use weasel and misleading words regarding ffp shows how we would be absolutely foolish to trust that he is a straight talker and assume budget = wage bill.
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The Swindon fan on here makes the argument that our squad is underfunded look rather foolish doesn't it?
 

stupot07

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #24
Noggin said:
Waggot has never come close to saying what our wage bill is. The fact Waggot continues to use weasel and misleading words regarding ffp shows how we would be absolutely foolish to trust that he is a straight talker and assume budget = wage bill.
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Not true, he told the trust at the trust meeting that the player wage budget was £2.7m (down from £4m IIRC) and yes I believe that.


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Noggin

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #25
stupot07 said:
Not true, he told the trust at the trust meeting that the player wage budget was £2.7m (down from £4m IIRC) and yes I believe that.


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I agree he has told us what our budget is, I do not agree he has told us what our wage bill is. A budget is something you can spend, a bill is something you are spending.

We also know that waggot considers our playing budget and our ffp calculation to be the same thing. if this is true and we are currently spending 2.7mill, had we not sold Wilson (something we were told was never their plan) we'd basically not have had the budget ffp wise for a team.

also even if you give him the benefit of the doubt that budget = bill (which it doesnt) what does that include? was baker on 8k a week and we paid 4k a week to let him go? so 200k a year? similar applies to others we let go in this way are these part of our wage budget?.

I don't understand why people and journalists allow answers to questions that are so obviously massively open to interpretation from people who have been proven to exploit this fact at every opportunity.
 
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Noggin

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #26
Grendel said:
The Swindon fan on here makes the argument that our squad is underfunded look rather foolish doesn't it?
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no
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #27
It was me that phoned in last night about the 300k , thats what was reported on the league 1 transfer deals in the telegraph(the national paper)looks as though the swindon fan basically sums up that the squad last night was 600k , like i said to stuart last night , why are we so poor , something is wrong , there are managers that work better with less and our recruitement has been woeful from waggot and pressley
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Jan 13, 2015
  • #28
Swindon reminded me very much of what we we were doing with Wilson and Clarke in the side last season, in that they pressed high, transitioned from defence to attack very quickly, plus the McGoldrick days where we were able to break very quickly. They looked very decent, was well impressed with them.
 
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