How much damage can we do to SISU... (8 Viewers)

Bennets Afro · Aug 27, 2011

... With the protests at the Derby game?

With the game being screened worldwide, surely it will damage their reputation massively. Maybe even be the start of their own demise!!!!

They have to want to get out as soon as...

Here's hoping and praying

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

Bennets Afro said:
... With the protests at the Derby game?

With the game being screened worldwide, surely it will damage their reputation massively. Maybe even be the start of their own demise!!!!

They have to want to get out as soon as...

Here's hoping and praying

Er, none at all?

TommyAtkins · Aug 27, 2011

They might all die laughing at protesting fans. But that's assuming that SISU care enough to pay attention

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

Let's join lordsummerisle and do nothing. It's the way forward.

TommyAtkins · Aug 27, 2011

GinettasStickySofa said:
Let's join lordsummerisle and do nothing. It's the way forward.

Doing nothing is the only option

But the real anger should be directed at Hoffman. This is Hoffman's time to prove himself and his bid as worthy and credible

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

Hoffman's the only bugger that wants to buy our club, he needs all the support he can get.

ashbyjan · Aug 27, 2011

I actually think a mass protest against SISU will embarrass SISU. Companies like them thrive on reputation and results. Showing them up to be incompetent and untrustworthy could potentially discredit this very secretive company in the eyes of potential investors.

TommyAtkins · Aug 27, 2011

GinettasStickySofa said:
Hoffman's the only bugger that wants to buy our club, he needs all the support he can get.

You are right. He appears to be the only interested party.

Therefore, it is down to him to prove his bid is credible and legal.

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

ashbyjan said:
I actually think a mass protest against SISU will embarrass SISU. Companies like them thrive on reputation and results. Showing them up to be incompetent and untrustworthy could potentially discredit this very secretive company in the eyes of potential investors.

You'd think so wouldn't you? Makes sense to me anyway.

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

TommyAtkins said:
You are right. He appears to be the only interested party.

Therefore, it is down to him to prove his bid is credible and legal.

Well I'm sure he's not scuppering the deal deliberately and if there's a viable alternative he will have / will be trying to make it work. He's going to be as desperate as us.

AFCCOVENTRY · Aug 27, 2011

We have to make the protests MASSIVE for the Derby game.

There is no doubt about it.

SISU and KEN have to be shown up for who they are.

We need thousands by the Jimmy Hill statue a good hour before the game and after.

This will get the Sky Cameras showing pictures of this during the build up.

Also the chants have to be SISU out all game long for Sky to comment on the hostile atmosphere towards the owners.

We have a voice... It is out fecking club WE LOVE

ashbyjan · Aug 27, 2011

Hoffman is not the only interested party - didn't ken say he was talking to a raft of other interested investors? And he would never lie to us would he?

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

ashbyjan said:
Hoffman is not the only interested party - didn't ken say he was talking to a raft of other interested investors? And he would never lie to us would he?

Apparently there's a queue forming outside his house in Portugal.

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

ashbyjan said:
I actually think a mass protest against SISU will embarrass SISU. Companies like them thrive on reputation and results. Showing them up to be incompetent and untrustworthy could potentially discredit this very secretive company in the eyes of potential investors.

You need a mass for mass protest though.

TommyAtkins · Aug 27, 2011

GinettasStickySofa said:
Well I'm sure he's not scuppering the deal deliberately and if there's a viable alternative he will have / will be trying to make it work. He's going to be as desperate as us.

It is Hoffman's fault that the deal was scuppered. It should have been watertight from the start

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

GinettasStickySofa said:
Let's join lordsummerisle and do nothing. It's the way forward.

Or you could warn against people like Sisu being in charge of our football club for years and be derided for it by the same people who are the most vocal anti-Sisu people now? Not want to jump straight for the first bid that comes in from similar people to Sisu just because we're desperate like we were last time(and because Teflon Joe wants us to).

AFCCOVENTRY · Aug 27, 2011

TommyAtkins said:
It is Hoffman's fault that the deal was scuppered. It should have been watertight from the start

Ken broke confidentiality on the deal. It is as a simple as that.

Otis · Aug 27, 2011

Based on the stories in the paper, yes, Tommy. I'm sure Hoffman isn't an idiot though is he. Can't believe he would have been so stupid to miss the obvious oversight of the Alladyce thing.

Both Sisu and Hoffman look tainted with this don't they. Terribly underhand and unprofessional of Sisu to leak all this info out.

PhilWasn'tBabb · Aug 27, 2011

For me it a very difficult situation, Hoffmans bid would appear to come off the rails well and truly.

SISU are currently the only option. They've committed to "fund" the club until the end of the season, but that would appear to be purely be a commitment to have 11 "players" on the pitch for a game, footballing skills not required. They are in effect happy to preside over a team head for first division, which clearly isn't going to help them get the 30 plus million back.

I think the likely hood of them putting us into admin is next to non existent, most of the money we own (for want of a better term) is to them, they would be the only people losing out.

Its not a good situation but i don't think a half hearted protest by a couple of fans is going to make much difference I'm afraid, I'm just going to be getting behind AT and the guys on the pitch and try and forget about the rest of it. In fact a better protest would be for us all to bring a friend that doesn't normally go to the game.

AFCCOVENTRY · Aug 27, 2011

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/capcon-holdings

AFCCOVENTRY · Aug 27, 2011

http://www.capconplc.com/Capconholdings/capcon-contact.html

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

lordsummerisle said:
Or you could warn against people like Sisu being in charge of our football club for years and be derided for it by the same people who are the most vocal anti-Sisu people now? Not want to jump straight for the first bid that comes in from similar people to Sisu just because we're desperate like we were last time(and because Teflon Joe wants us to).

How were Hoffman's investors similar to SISU oh fountain of all knowledge? I think you'll find that bar Ken Bruce nobody knows anything about Hoffman's consortium apart from himself and a few other suits.

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

GinettasStickySofa said:
How were Hoffman's investors similar to SISU oh fountain of all knowledge? I think you'll find that bar Ken Bruce nobody knows anything about Hoffman's consortium apart from himself and a few other suits.

Answered your own question there Ginetta.

ashbyjan · Aug 27, 2011

Yep nows the time to sit back and smugly smile at the demise of our club consoling yourself by muttering I told you all so. Happy times for some at least.

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

ashbyjan said:
Yep nows the time to sit back and smugly smile at the demise of our club consoling yourself by muttering I told you all so. Happy times for some at least.

Happy times for some seem to be wanting the same to happen again.

Sky_Blue_Daz · Aug 27, 2011

5 mins before Kick off Lech Posnan style, Chanting Sisu Out

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

You're a bizarre character lordsummerisle. Let's just leave it at that.

Jack Griffin · Aug 27, 2011

ashbyjan said:
Hoffman is not the only interested party - didn't ken say he was talking to a raft of other interested investors? And he would never lie to us would he?

He did & I interpreted that as the rich people who have already put money into SISU rather than a consortium interested in taking the club off SISU's hands.

ashbyjan · Aug 27, 2011

And the option is sitting back and watch SISU slowly kill our club? Does everyone know the full details of bidders in every takeover? Is Hoffman an experienced financial operator who has the best interests of this club at heart? Yes and probably so for me that's better than the current shower we are strangling the club and I for one am willing to take the risk. Option one - certain oblivion option 2 maybe the same maybe better couldn't be any worse - so for me option 2 thank you.

TalkSkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

For one match and one match only the strogest message the fans can give to SISU is a no show at the Deby game. A sparsely filled stadium for a televised game will I'm sure be very embarassing for the board too. The tabloids will no doubt also pick up on a "no show protest". To my knowledge no professional football fan base in this country has ever taken such steps. Let's make it a first.

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

GinettasStickySofa said:
You're a bizarre character lordsummerisle. Let's just leave it at that.

You're several bizarre character's. You'd think by the law of averages at least one of your personas might have got something right, but seemingly not.

AFCCOVENTRY · Aug 27, 2011

TalkSkyBlue said:
For one match and one match only the strogest message the fans can give to SISU is a no show at the Deby game. A sparsely filled stadium for a televised game will I'm sure be very embarassing for the board too. The tabloids will no doubt also pick up on a "no show protest". To my knowledge no professional football fan base in this country has ever taken such steps. Let's make it a first.

I know this goes against all football principles as a fan... but it could be an option.

A vote of no confidence in SISU. Protests outside the stadium for 90mins during the game and nobody in it.

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

ashbyjan said:
And the option is sitting back and watch SISU slowly kill our club? Does everyone know the full details of bidders in every takeover? Is Hoffman an experienced financial operator who has the best interests of this club at heart? Yes and probably so for me that's better than the current shower we are strangling the club and I for one am willing to take the risk. Option one - certain oblivion option 2 maybe the same maybe better couldn't be any worse - so for me option 2 thank you.

The same 2 options that we had 3 years ago then, though with Sisu being the experienced financial operator's riding over the hill to "save us" on that occasion?

Nothing against Hoffman if he has a credible bid, with credible investors, not seen anything yet to suggest this though.

lordsummerisle · Aug 27, 2011

TalkSkyBlue said:
For one match and one match only the strogest message the fans can give to SISU is a no show at the Deby game. A sparsely filled stadium for a televised game will I'm sure be very embarassing for the board too. The tabloids will no doubt also pick up on a "no show protest". To my knowledge no professional football fan base in this country has ever taken such steps. Let's make it a first.

We have a sparsely filled stadium for virtually every game anyway.

SydneySkyBlue · Aug 27, 2011

lordsummerisle said:
The same 2 options that we had 3 years ago then, though with Sisu being the experienced financial operator's riding over the hill to "save us" on that occasion?

Nothing against Hoffman if he has a credible bid, with credible investors, not seen anything yet to suggest this though.

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