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How man at managers have thrived under SISU (1 Viewer)

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Esoterica

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #36
There's not many managers that can be considered to have thrived anywhere though these days is there? People are sacked before they get chance to turn situations around as the financial rewards are too great. JFH at Burton before his move to QPR? But he only managed 50 odd games I think. Sean Dyche at Burnley but he didn't get much backing in the PL. Tisdale? Karl Robinson?
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #37
We finished in the top 10 for the first time under sisu , with Tony Mowbray .
6 game in people want him sacked

Nobody will thrive at this club under sisu , we might get lucky , but it seems to go tits up after 50 games or so because of the clubs release to recruit policy every single year , so we have no actual stability
Turnbull and Jones are signed on long term deals to basically make more money from the sale of them , we all know that .

21 players that were here last year are gone....we go through this almost every season
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #38
Otis said:
Didn't Dowie say the same?
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Don't think they both brought Eastwood
 

Otis

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #39
stevefloyd said:
Don't think they both brought Eastwood
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No, that was the council.

Unbelievable that Clint could have two such crappy brothers in Nick and Freddie.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #40
Irish Sky Blue said:
Was Jim Blyth here then? I thought Oggy was goalkeeper coach by that time.
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He can still have a downer on him, whether employed by the club or not...
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #41
We finished in the top 10 for the first time under sisu
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Yeah because they put in this league for the first time since 1966.

Bravo SISU.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #42
skybluebeduff said:
Yeah because they put in this league for the first time since 1966.

Bravo SISU.
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No I wasn't complementing the wankers , I was giving you a stat that Mowbray is the first manager to finish in the top 10 under sisu
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #43
Is there a stats website that tells you how many mangers each club have had in the last few years and how long on average each club keeps a manager in the job.
 

Esoterica

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #44
chiefdave said:
Is there a stats website that tells you how many mangers each club have had in the last few years and how long on average each club keeps a manager in the job.
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You'd need an awful lot of mangers for all the donkeys we've had over the last few years.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #45
chiefdave said:
Is there a stats website that tells you how many mangers each club have had in the last few years and how long on average each club keeps a manager in the job.
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http://www.managerstats.co.uk/clubs/coventry-city/
 
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Hobo

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #46
Grendel said:
http://www.managerstats.co.uk/clubs/coventry-city/
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Blasting through the Premier League clubs they are all an average of a 100 plus games, many of the successful clubs over 200. Except Crystal Palce who are around 90.

Coventry is 78....as an average that is a lot lower. Knee jerk doesn't work.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #47
Hobo said:
Blasting through the Premier League clubs they are all an average of a 100 plus games, many of the successful clubs over 200. Except Crystal Palce who are around 90.

Coventry is 78....as an average that is a lot lower. Knee jerk doesn't work.
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We are not in the Premier League - if we were I am sure he would be safer
 

Hobo

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #48
Grendel said:
We are not in the Premier League - if we were I am sure he would be safer
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The club has lacked positive leadership and infrastructure for many many years so it is no surprise why we are where we are. Many people who have been at the club are responsible. The current owners who are now long in the tooth have failed to give the leadership and the structure any successful organisation needs.

It is sad that fans have turned the blame onto CCC, Wasps, Coventry Telegraph and a rugby sporting initiative (that is not unique to Coventry).

I accept they might not assist our cause. But they are not the root of our failure.
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #49
skybluebeduff said:
Coleman spent more in his last season with us than he did the previous year. £1.5mill just on Clingan, McIndoe and Craine. We also made over £5mill that season on players sales like Dann, Best and Fox which recouped SISU's expenditure the season before on Eastwood, Dann and Fox.

SISU have seen more money come in than they have put out. Just check the transfers in and transfers out since they arrived in 2007.
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Yeh because the only outgoing for a football team is player transfers

Is that even a real post
 

Martin180

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  • Sep 5, 2016
  • #50
Grendel said:
We are not in the Premier League - if we were I am sure he would be safer
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Weird logic that counteracts your argument , bizarre !
 

skybluebeduff

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #51
robbiekeane said:
Yeh because the only outgoing for a football team is player transfers

Is that even a real post
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Are you serious?
If I wanted to mention every single incoming and outgoings of the club, then I would of, if you want to review every account since 2007, do it yourself. Surprise yourself.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #52
You said:
skybluebeduff said:
SISU have seen more money come in than they have put out. Just check the transfers in and transfers out since they arrived in 2007.
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To claim that they have made a profit (more money in that they have put out) solely based on transfers is absolutely ridiculous. Not asking you to go back and analyse 9 years worth of accounts, just don't feed the crazies any more bullshit
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #53
Esoterica said:
There's not many managers that can be considered to have thrived anywhere though these days is there? People are sacked before they get chance to turn situations around as the financial rewards are too great. JFH at Burton before his move to QPR? But he only managed 50 odd games I think. Sean Dyche at Burnley but he didn't get much backing in the PL. Tisdale? Karl Robinson?
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I did a list on another thread.
It surprised me there are quite a lot from 2 1/2 years upwards up to Wenger.
Unfortunately the list is about the same size as the amount of managers we have had since Gordan Strachan.
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #54
Arsène Wenger 19 years, 338 days
Paul Tisdale 10 years, 69 days
Karl Robinson 6 years 116 days
Paul Hurst 5 years, 164 days
Jim Bentley 5 years, 113 days
Steve Davis 4 years, 298 days
Gareth Ainsworth 3 years, 345 days
Neal Ardley 3 years, 329 days
Eddie Howe 3 years, 326 days
Sean Dyche 3 years, 309 days
Mick McCarthy 3 years, 307 days
Keith Hill 3 years, 225 days
Simon Grayson 3 years, 198 days
Phil Brown 3 years, 162 days
Mark Hughes 3 years, 96 days
Aitor Karanka 2 years, 295 days
David Flitcroft 2 years, 269 days
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #55
  • Gordon Strachan (1996–2001)
  • Roland Nilsson (2001–2002)
  • Steve Ogrizovic & Trevor Peake (caretakers) (2002)
  • Gary McAllister (2002–2003)
  • Eric Black (2003–2004)
  • Steve Ogrizovic (caretaker) (2004)
  • Peter Reid (2004–2005)
  • Adrian Heath (caretaker) (2005)
  • Micky Adams (2005–2007)
  • Adrian Heath (caretaker) (2007)
  • Iain Dowie (2007–2008)
  • Frankie Bunn & John Harbin(caretakers) (2008)
  • Chris Coleman (2008–2010)
  • Aidy Boothroyd (2010–2011)
  • Steve Harrison & Andy Thorn(caretakers) (2011)
  • Andy Thorn (2011–2012)
  • Richard Shaw & Lee Carsley(caretakers) (2012)
  • Mark Robins (2012–2013)
  • Lee Carsley (caretaker) (2013)
  • Steven Pressley (2013–2015)
  • Neil MacFarlane & Dave Hockaday (caretakers) (2015)
  • Tony Mowbray (2015–)
 

stupot07

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #56


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ccfcway

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  • Sep 6, 2016
  • #57
Evo1883 said:
Turnbull and Jones are signed on long term deals to basically make more money from the sale of them , we all know that .
21 players that were here last year are gone....we go through this almost every season
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which is it, we sign players on long term deals to make money, or we don't sign them on long enough deals ?
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 7, 2016
  • #58
stupot07 said:


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Only stat that matters to anybody with a sane mind , is we finished 8th last year under Mowbray , this season has just started .
 
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stupot07

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  • Sep 7, 2016
  • #59
Evo1883 said:
Only stat that matters to anybody with a sane mind , is we finished 8th last year under Mowbray , this season has just started .
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Whilst I take the point about this season, Pressley would have finished 9th without the 10 point deduction. There are similarities.

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dongonzalos

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  • Sep 7, 2016
  • #60
Evo1883 said:
Only stat that matters to anybody with a sane mind , is we finished 8th last year under Mowbray , this season has just started .
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4 points off play offs
 
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