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How is Aled Williams employed? (1 Viewer)

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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #1
Simon Moore - ruined him
Ben Wilson - hasn't exactly improved him
Brad Collins - hadnt exactly improved him
Oliver Dovin - looks a scared wreck

4 keepers of a decent level, all end up bereft of confidence and talent


And the defence. Well. We all know how dog shit that is and he's responsible for that nowadays too

Bloks stealing a living and how he's never been put under review i don't know
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #2
Bring back Oggy!

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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #3
At least if Doug pulls the plug, you’d expect he would also be gone.

Saddle though can you lie and give us some good news, after last night need something to hyper fixate on.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #4
Sky Blue Goblin said:
At least if Doug pulls the plug, you’d expect he would also be gone.

Saddle though can you lie and give us some good news, after last night need something to hyper fixate on.
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There is literally none
 

Diogenes

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #5
Saddlebrains said:
Simon Moore - ruined him
Ben Wilson - hasn't exactly improved him
Brad Collins - hadnt exactly improved him
Oliver Dovin - looks a scared wreck

4 keepers of a decent level, all end up bereft of confidence and talent


And the defence. Well. We all know how dog shit that is and he's responsible for that nowadays too

Bloks stealing a living and how he's never been put under review i don't know
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Tbf the defence was shit before he got his hands on it, imagine how bad it will be in another 6 months..
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #6
Saddlebrains said:
There is literally none
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Any rumours about changes in management/coaching staff?

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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #7
Saddlebrains said:
There is literally none
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You missed the part where I said “Lie” . Come on, why not big Sam coming in as an Assistant Manager or director of Football?

I’d take a university of Warwick Stadium update at this point.
 
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ptr

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #8
Probably a decent coach and a good lad but has no real playing experience at a decent level.

Under Oggy, many of our keepers improved. Westwood, Murphy, RCC for a period…even Burge. He would’ve been able to pass on vital bits of his experience that Aled can’t.

Tbh, I think they’re a few around the first team that have no real playing experience. For me, when you’re in the slump we are in, that’s a worry.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #9
Wyken Sky Blue said:
Any rumours about changes in management/coaching staff?

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The Lampard rumours wouldn't surprise me
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #10
Saddlebrains said:
The Lampard rumours wouldn't surprise me
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They said good news
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #11
Saddlebrains said:
The Lampard rumours wouldn't surprise me
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Oh fuck , we really are fucked if he came.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #12
Saddlebrains said:
The Lampard rumours wouldn't surprise me
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When I said “Lie” it was meant to be good fun news.

This is not funny
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #13
The funniest shit with Lampard would be the loans to be honest. Got major connections with Chelsea and we wouldn’t use them .

On a deep dive with Lampard (I don’t want him btw), plays a 4-3-3 which most fans want and has developed a few U21 talents which would line up to the job here.


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Wyken Sky Blue

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #14
Saddlebrains said:
The Lampard rumours wouldn't surprise me
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Where have these rumours come from? I've seen people post Lampard as a suggestion to take over on another thread but nothing more than that
 
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Deity

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #15
Saddlebrains said:
Simon Moore - ruined him
Ben Wilson - hasn't exactly improved him
Brad Collins - hadnt exactly improved him
Oliver Dovin - looks a scared wreck

4 keepers of a decent level, all end up bereft of confidence and talent


And the defence. Well. We all know how dog shit that is and he's responsible for that nowadays too

Bloks stealing a living and how he's never been put under review i don't know
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I thought you said significant issues in Moore’s private life were the cause of his poor form ??

Its far too early to judge Dovin what I would say is that it must be a nightmare to have an instruction to play to your defenders and yet when they have the ball they look like they have no clue what to do with it. They never look to pass through the press they simply pass to each other until either we lose it or go for a long ball up field.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #16
ptr said:
Probably a decent coach and a good lad but has no real playing experience at a decent level.

Under Oggy, many of our keepers improved. Westwood, Murphy, RCC for a period…even Burge. He would’ve been able to pass on vital bits of his experience that Aled can’t.

Tbh, I think they’re a few around the first team that have no real playing experience. For me, when you’re in the slump we are in, that’s a worry.
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This is just made up bollocks. Oggy got blamed for making keepers absolutely dreadful for years.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #17
Deity said:
I thought you said significant issues in Moore’s private life were the cause of his poor form ??

Its far too early to judge Dovin what I would say is that it must be a nightmare to have an instruction to play to your defenders and yet when they have the ball they look like they have no clue what to do with it. They never look to pass through the press they simply pass to each other until either we lose it or go for a long ball up field.
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They were yes.

But they didn't last 2 years. You'd expect a coach to get the keeper back to their levels in that time easily no?
 
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Deity

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #18
Saddlebrains said:
They were yes.

But they didn't last 2 years. You'd expect a coach to get the keeper back to their levels in that time easily no?
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It depends on what those issues were, how well Moore dealt with them and frankly whether Robins had moved on and was less interested in Moore going forward.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #19
To be fair I don't think he ruined Moore, he had some pretty awful stuff going on in his personal life that clearly affected him.

And you could say Wilson had his best ever season under Williams.

(edit - just saw the stuff about Moore mentioned above)
 
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shmmeee

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #20
Do Welsh people come under DEI?
 

ccfctommy

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #21
Its a goalkeeping coaches fault that Moore had them two stinkers and got dropped for Wilson?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #22
Saddlebrains said:
Simon Moore - ruined him
Ben Wilson - hasn't exactly improved him
Brad Collins - hadnt exactly improved him
Oliver Dovin - looks a scared wreck

4 keepers of a decent level, all end up bereft of confidence and talent


And the defence. Well. We all know how dog shit that is and he's responsible for that nowadays too

Bloks stealing a living and how he's never been put under review i don't know
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Simon Moore as you well know was ruined for personal reasons, nothing to do with his coaching

Ben Wilson has improved to be fair albeit from a low starting point

Collins?

Dovin is an inexperienced keeper, that's all

This is just bizarre really
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #23
I don't know if we were ever interested in Johansson but he put in a great performance last night for stoke and earned them a point. Seemed like he would have been a sensible signing.

(and no I'm not writing off Dovin)
 

Sick Boy

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #24
Saddlebrains said:
The Lampard rumours wouldn't surprise me
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What rumours?!
 
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djr8369

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #25
This is just nasty and personal. Didn’t someone point out the other week that he is well qualified?
 
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Frankly_Mr_Shankly

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #26
Why does a goalkeeper need coaching, it’s not that complicated surely?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #27
fernandopartridge said:
Simon Moore as you well know was ruined for personal reasons, nothing to do with his coaching

Ben Wilson has improved to be fair albeit from a low starting point

Collins?

Dovin is an inexperienced keeper, that's all

This is just bizarre really
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It’s the usual hyperbolic nonsense from the forums most depressing poster.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #28
You do have to wonder about him as none of the keepers under his tutelage have been good, and many ended up worse, albeit sometimes for other reasons.

But I think there are questions about the other coaches too. For example the ones promoted from the development side.

I understand they might want coaches with experience in development coaching as we're buying young prospects to sell on, but first team is more than that. It also requires results here and now.

And it's not like they've got a great track record of development anyway. Our development sides have been awful results wise the last few years, and how many of them have actually gone on to the first team? Players coming through now should have been taken on with us as a Championship side and that is the minimum standard they should be looking to reach. OK, some like Tyler, Moore and Batanwi have had big setbacks with injuries but I still fail to see what they have achieved at that level to warrant putting them in charge of the first team,

It really feels like the coaching reorganisation has been well and truly fucked up.
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #29
Ccfcisparks said:
It’s the usual hyperbolic nonsense from the forums most depressing poster.
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Ever since Overson stopped getting or giving him info it's been madness.
 
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ccfcricoh

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #30
just stick with Dovin, he's the youngest, got the brightest future, the more we play him now the quicker he will improve, chopping and changing helps nobody
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #31
And yes Dovin made a mistake, he expected their player to hit it properly and it was scuffed in, that happens sometimes.
 
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Pezza

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #32
Oggy lol.

I’m sorry, club legend but him and Clive HAVE to go. They got Wright mixed up with Sheaf the other night. They love a jinx too! They’re just awful to listen to, I’m sorry.

Oggy was a great servant, let’s leave it there.

I agree though, Aled’s CV doesn’t look good…
 
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skyblueelephant76

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #33
Saddlebrains said:
Simon Moore - ruined him
Ben Wilson - hasn't exactly improved him
Brad Collins - hadnt exactly improved him
Oliver Dovin - looks a scared wreck

4 keepers of a decent level, all end up bereft of confidence and talent


And the defence. Well. We all know how dog shit that is and he's responsible for that nowadays too

Bloks stealing a living and how he's never been put under review i don't know
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He took Wilson from a lower league reserve keeper to Championship team of the season.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #34
Saddlebrains said:
The Lampard rumours wouldn't surprise me
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Yeah I’ll take back my concerns - I’ll stick with Robins for better or for worse with those rumours
 

larry_david

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  • Oct 23, 2024
  • #35
skyblueelephant76 said:
He took Wilson from a lower league reserve keeper to Championship team of the season.
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Yep funny how this all gets forgotten isn't it
 
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