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How did We'll Live and Die in these Towns start before kick offs? (1 Viewer)

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  • Start date Apr 23, 2024
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clint van damme

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #106
Johnnythespider said:
Is it about Cov, they do sing Towns, plural. It's a bit like Ghost town which had the same said about it but the band said it was about the places they'd seen while touring.
Edit - As for Bolton using it in a video, isn't their manager from Cov, don't know what the fuss is about in all honesty
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The actual graffiti that inspired the song said 'we'll live and die in this town'.

I think they should have stuck with that!
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #107
Our twitter fans...

Someone else can mention the name but we all know who is the absolute worst. Even worse than Coventry King etc.

Complete embarrassment to us.
 
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TomRad85

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #108
clint van damme said:
To be fair, it makes us look like virgin gremlins to an equally unhinged and fuck witted bunch from another club whose opinion I couldn't give a toss about either!
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It's true that twitter is the platform of the oddball, forums like this are a better barometer of how fuck witted a fanbase is generally... I'd say, well we have some moments on here but it's generally OK. The Sunderland forum however...

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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2024
  • #109
TomRad85 said:
It's true that twitter is the platform of the oddball, forums like this are a better barometer of how fuck witted a fanbase is generally... I'd say, well we have some moments on here but it's generally OK. The Sunderland forum however...

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Plus the outside world isn't viewing our nonsense, we're a very insular bunch of arsepieces
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #110
Grendel said:
Well it’s actually the Eton Boating Song
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No, the tune is the song bears no resemblance to the Eton Boating Song, you really are an idiot.
is the taxi meter still running, or have you got multiple bookings, if you have is one going to be picking up your mate Ken?
 

Grendel

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #111
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
No, the tune is the song bears no resemblance to the Eton Boating Song, you really are an idiot.
is the taxi meter still running, or have you got multiple bookings, if you have is one going to be picking up your mate Ken?
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Been on the sauce?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #112
Grendel said:
Been on the sauce?
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I don’t drink but then again usual type of response from you.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2024
  • #113
Our twitter fans are extremely strange and start arguments with just about anybody
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #114
Evo1883 said:
Our twitter fans are extremely strange and start arguments with just about anybody
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Shut up
 
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Evo1883

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #115
Broken Hearted Sky Blue said:
Shut up
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Sorry
 
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bigfatronssba

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #116
clint van damme said:
People are going mad on Twitter?
They really are an embarrassment.
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No one’s “going mad”. It’s just a bit of banter.

Problem is with social media is that no one can’t tell a joke
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #117
Evo1883 said:
Our twitter fans are extremely strange and start arguments with just about anybody
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Do you want some.


 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2024
  • #118
clint van damme said:
The actual graffiti that inspired the song said 'we'll live and die in this town'.

I think they should have stuck with that!
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The graffiti didn't exist, it was as they claimed in the downstairs foyer mens toilets at the colly.

It wasn't, it's a good urban legend though
 
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clint van damme

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #119
bigfatronssba said:
No one’s “going mad”. It’s just a bit of banter.

Problem is with social media is that no one can’t tell a joke
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I took a look, they were.
Unless the humour didn't translate in to a tweet.
Not bothered either way to be honest.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2024
  • #120
David O'Day said:
The graffiti didn't exist, it was as they claimed in the downstairs foyer mens toilets at the colly.

It wasn't, it's a good urban legend though
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Makes it worse, they thought up a better version of the lyrics themselves and changed it!
 

Frostie

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #121
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #122
pusbccfc said:
Our twitter fans...

Someone else can mention the name but we all know who is the absolute worst. Even worse than Coventry King etc.

Complete embarrassment to us.
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Me?
 
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zuni

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #123
Watching again made me well up...ffs grow up lad
 
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pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2024
  • #124
Saddlebrains said:
Me?
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Not at all! A certain someone who spends all day trying to wind up other clubs.

You just wind up our fans
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • May 18, 2024
  • #125
I mean that’s fucking sad that Bolton have picked that. It’s a Coventry band and there’s literally no way they haven’t just straight up copied it…

Tragic really, get your own identity
 
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oscillatewildly

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  • May 18, 2024
  • #126
David O'Day said:
The graffiti didn't exist, it was as they claimed in the downstairs foyer mens toilets at the colly.

It wasn't, it's a good urban legend though
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Proof (if it were needed) that DOD does indeed frequent the gents longer than would normally be considered a standard length of time for a 'comfort' visit.
10/10 for dedicated research though.
 
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Hobo

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  • May 19, 2024
  • #127
The Enemy basically ripped off the riff of That's Entertainment by The Jam

But it has given us an impactive pre kick off chant. So a win win.
 
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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • May 19, 2024
  • #128
Hobo said:
The Enemy basically ripped off the riff of That's Entertainment by The Jam

But it has given us an impactive pre kick off chant. So a win win.
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With Joe Strummer style vocals. More so in other songs.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • May 19, 2024
  • #129
oscillatewildly said:
Proof (if it were needed) that DOD does indeed frequent the gents longer than would normally be considered a standard length of time for a 'comfort' visit.
10/10 for dedicated research though.
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I djed there mate

Toilets have a bog troll as so not a chance you can graffiti the walls
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • May 19, 2024
  • #130
David O'Day said:
I djed there mate
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DJ DOD!

 

Nick

Administrator
  • May 19, 2024
  • #131
Happy_Martian said:
And why can't we be protective about it ?

Song about Cov, written and sung by a Coventry band and adopted by the band's home town team.

We don't have much that is ours alone (most of our players songs are copies of other songs). So why not fight for something that is ours ?
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It's fucking weird.

Written and sung by a Brummie who doesn't support cov.

People losing their minds it's used on a video, need to get out more.

"Fight for something" baffling.
 
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pusbccfc

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  • May 19, 2024
  • #132
Nick said:
It's fucking weird.

Written and sung by a Brummie who doesn't support cov.

People losing their minds it's used on a video, need to get out more.

"Fight for something" baffling.
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Didn't Clarke move to Cov as a kid and went to Finham Park?
 

pusbccfc

Well-Known Member
  • May 19, 2024
  • #133
Nick said:
It's fucking weird.

Written and sung by a Brummie who doesn't support cov.

People losing their minds it's used on a video, need to get out more.

"Fight for something" baffling.
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Didn't Clarke move to Cov as a kid and went to Finham Park?
 
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Skybluekyle

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  • May 19, 2024
  • #134
I find it weird that Bolton chose "We'll Live and Die in These Towns" (WLADITT) as the music for their pre-match montage, but I find it weirder that some Coventry City fans seem to find it almost offensive that they did so.

I find WLADITT as a song about a city/town that has disadvantages and is a bit crap, but it's our city/town of disadvantages and a bit crap, and we'll always be a product of that, successful or otherwise. This seems quite universal for those north of the M25 in England

For me, it's one of the best football anthems of them all. In fairness to Liverpool fans, they made it as good as it seems, but You'll Never Walk Alone feels a bit hollow in comparison, considering it's a song from an American musical, WLADITT is at least a song that resonates at a fundamental level with the fanbase, rather than it just be a cover of a song from a musical, by a band from Liverpool.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • May 19, 2024
  • #135
It normally starts

You spend your time in smoky rooms where haggard old women with cheap perfume say...
 
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Happy_Martian

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2024
  • #136
Just seen @Nick replied to my previous comment. So one last view from my perspective on this. And I won't be replying to this any further.

We've had a change in setup and atmosphere at the CBS in the last couple of years. And I think most fans will agree it's been a positive move. WLADITT has been a part of that change and fans have connected with it. Hell, we sang it loud and proud at Wembley. The song, whether you admit it or not, has become part of our identity.

Seeing another team use it to promote their team and their journey to the Playoffs was seen by many on Twitter to dilute its impact with regard ourselves. That's what kicked off the Twitter furore. The arguments were not about its use prematch at Bolton. Those vocalising their protests were protecting what they thought was part of the image of Coventry City. Not asking if you agree with the reaction, just a statement of fact.

And a point was made that of all the songs out there, why pick that one when they could have chosen songs about Bolton or by artists from the town ? Coincidental that our use of it and particularly at a high profile game at Wembley has been reshown on social media multiple times. Comparatively, it's 15 yrs old and is hardly on regular repeat on the radio that I've heard of (not a streaming or Radio 1 fan).

Other points that have been raised:

YNWA is used at various grounds but it's synonymous with Liverpool and Celtic. It was also written in 1945 by Rogers and Hammerstein for the musical, Carousel. So doesn't have a true link to any club. But you don't think of other clubs when it plays.

Had fun with a Preston and Sunderland fan explaining that their combined use of "Can't help falling in Love" also doesn't create problems as it was written for Elvis Presley in the early 60's. And he had no declared interest in either fanbase. So neither can "claim" it as theirs.

On the flip side, how about "When the Saints/Spurs go marching in" ? Spurs get crap for using Southampton's song.

And for an extra mark, "Marching on Together" was written for Leeds specifically, as was "Keep Right On" for Birmingham. And rightly, noone challenges their exclusivity.

As for the band, Tom Clarke was born in Birmingham but moved to Coventry before he was 11 and was at Finham Park Comprehensive. He wrote WLADITT while living on Far Gosford Street. Andy Hopkins, bassist, is a Cov kid and is a self-proclaimed Cov fan. Liam, the drummer, is a Cov kid but wasn't a football fan when the song was written or released (from the last interview I saw with the band/him).

Finally....

Rather than let it get too inflated, I messaged John Dawkins as the ex-manager of The Enemy and asked his opinion and what the new management team may think, musically and our use ?

His response was simply that they'd be happy for the song to be getting more exposure and that younger fans would get to hear it. And that music is for everyone.

With that, the argument is over.

Music should be for everybody.

We move on.
 
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Wyken Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • May 20, 2024
  • #137
Happy_Martian said:
Just seen @Nick replied to my previous comment. So one last view from my perspective on this. And I won't be replying to this any further.

We've had a change in setup and atmosphere at the CBS in the last couple of years. And I think most fans will agree it's been a positive move. WLADITT has been a part of that change and fans have connected with it. Hell, we sang it loud and proud at Wembley. The song, whether you admit it or not, has become part of our identity.

Seeing another team use it to promote their team and their journey to the Playoffs was seen by many on Twitter to dilute its impact with regard ourselves. That's what kicked off the Twitter furore. The arguments were not about its use prematch at Bolton. Those vocalising their protests were protecting what they thought was part of the image of Coventry City. Not asking if you agree with the reaction, just a statement of fact.

And a point was made that of all the songs out there, why pick that one when they could have chosen songs about Bolton or by artists from the town ? Coincidental that our use of it and particularly at a high profile game at Wembley has been reshown on social media multiple times. Comparatively, it's 15 yrs old and is hardly on regular repeat on the radio that I've heard of (not a streaming or Radio 1 fan).

Other points that have been raised:

YNWA is used at various grounds but it's synonymous with Liverpool and Celtic. It was also written in 1945 by Rogers and Hammerstein for the musical, Carousel. So doesn't have a true link to any club. But you don't think of other clubs when it plays.

Had fun with a Preston and Sunderland fan explaining that their combined use of "Can't help falling in Love" also doesn't create problems as it was written for Elvis Presley in the early 60's. And he had no declared interest in either fanbase. So neither can "claim" it as theirs.

On the flip side, how about "When the Saints/Spurs go marching in" ? Spurs get crap for using Southampton's song.

And for an extra mark, "Marching on Together" was written for Leeds specifically, as was "Keep Right On" for Birmingham. And rightly, noone challenges their exclusivity.

As for the band, Tom Clarke was born in Birmingham but moved to Coventry before he was 11 and was at Finham Park Comprehensive. He wrote WLADITT while living on Far Gosford Street. Andy Hopkins, bassist, is a Cov kid and is a self-proclaimed Cov fan. Liam, the drummer, is a Cov kid but wasn't a football fan when the song was written or released (from the last interview I saw with the band/him).

Finally....

Rather than let it get too inflated, I messaged John Dawkins as the ex-manager of The Enemy and asked his opinion and what the new management team may think, musically and our use ?

His response was simply that they'd be happy for the song to be getting more exposure and that younger fans would get to hear it. And that music is for everyone.

With that, the argument is over.

Music should be for everybody.

We move on.
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