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Bob Latchford

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  • May 23, 2015
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be run ? when you have TM asking for paint and tarmac for pot holes, as part of his contract negotiations. how bloody amateurish !
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #2
is this a joke
 

italiahorse

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #3
http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/n..._spruce_up_training_ground_862490/index.shtml
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #4
shy_tall_knight said:
is this a joke
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No, sounds as if Ryton needs refurbishing and this was one of his assurances

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...-news/coventry-city-boss-tony-mowbray-9311016
The new Sky Blues boss revealed one of the assurances he was seeking during his pre-contract negotiations was that Ryton is smartened up to provide a professional working environment that will help to inspire the current staff and attract fresh talent to the club.
“Some of the discussions have been about changing the environment where players come to work,” said the 51-year-old manager, who is also determined to improve the match-day atmosphere at the Ricoh Arena.
“When they come back into this building at Ryton in the pre-season and next year they’ll see the place with a lick of paint and some branding on it – Coventry City colours. It will be a place where players will want to come to work and feel proud that they play for Coventry City.
“We’re building from the bottom really, and sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can see new things. If you have lived in this environment for many years you just accept it and get on with your work.
"Hopefully my fresh eyes that have come in and said this needs to change, that’s not good enough or correct and, without being critical of anybody, just try to take it in a different direction – what I believe is a better direction – where players can flourish.


“We have to create that on the playing field but we also have to create it in the dressing room, in the canteen and in the kit room. It’s a workplace and it has to have excellence because how can I demand excellence from the players and talk about promotion if they don’t come to work in an environment that shows excellence, that shows it’s being looked after and we have a pride in where we go to work.
“It’s basic things, basic business things. Wherever you go to work hopefully there’s a professionalism – the workforce needs to be motivated and inspired and any workforce has to have a worth and be treated properly.
“In the budgets we have got – and we aren’t Premier League or Championship – we give the players the very best we can afford so they have no excuses come match day.
“And they have to go and perform. Let’s remove all the excuses.”


He added: “The dressing rooms need a lick of paint, the car park has potholes everywhere and it needs changing – if it means redirecting a few quid off the pitch into the environment where the players come to work and then we build the team then I think it’s worth it because otherwise you never get out of where you live.
“It’s trying to move the football club on. And then when we try to sign young players from the Premier League and their coaches or assistant managers come down and have a look and watch them they see a training ground with a bit of excellence about it and think they are in good hands.
“Then they think they can send another young player here because they do it properly at Coventry.
“Steve Waggott is probably sick of me spending all his money. I just want things doing – how much is a tin of paint?
“In an ideal world there would be an army of Coventry City fans wanting to come down and put the building back into shape, whether that’s painters, tilers, roofers, guys who change windows – whatever it might be – but when the players come back in July hopefully the place will be a different environment for them.”


Mowbray also wants to create more of a sense of identity at the Ricoh, something he feels has been lost since the arrival of Wasps.
“Around the dressing room area and the tunnel area there’s nothing to suggest it’s Coventry City’s home where we go to battle once a fortnight,” he said.

“So we need to brand it a little bit. Wasps brand the stadium very well when they play.
“Players need to have a pride, a cause to fight for. To walk into the building, into the dressing room, into the tunnel it’s important they see the history of the club that they are representing.”
 
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RFC

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #5
Pleased to see that at least some on hear read exactly what's going on and digest it unlike the first couple of posters.
It's time to stop knit picking and move forward in a much more positive way just for a change and back the manager and what he's trying to do. Onwards and upwards!


CCFC said:
No, sounds as if Ryton needs refurbishing and this was one of his assurances

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/sp...-news/coventry-city-boss-tony-mowbray-9311016
The new Sky Blues boss revealed one of the assurances he was seeking during his pre-contract negotiations was that Ryton is smartened up to provide a professional working environment that will help to inspire the current staff and attract fresh talent to the club.
“Some of the discussions have been about changing the environment where players come to work,” said the 51-year-old manager, who is also determined to improve the match-day atmosphere at the Ricoh Arena.
“When they come back into this building at Ryton in the pre-season and next year they’ll see the place with a lick of paint and some branding on it – Coventry City colours. It will be a place where players will want to come to work and feel proud that they play for Coventry City.
“We’re building from the bottom really, and sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can see new things. If you have lived in this environment for many years you just accept it and get on with your work.
"Hopefully my fresh eyes that have come in and said this needs to change, that’s not good enough or correct and, without being critical of anybody, just try to take it in a different direction – what I believe is a better direction – where players can flourish.


“We have to create that on the playing field but we also have to create it in the dressing room, in the canteen and in the kit room. It’s a workplace and it has to have excellence because how can I demand excellence from the players and talk about promotion if they don’t come to work in an environment that shows excellence, that shows it’s being looked after and we have a pride in where we go to work.
“It’s basic things, basic business things. Wherever you go to work hopefully there’s a professionalism – the workforce needs to be motivated and inspired and any workforce has to have a worth and be treated properly.
“In the budgets we have got – and we aren’t Premier League or Championship – we give the players the very best we can afford so they have no excuses come match day.
“And they have to go and perform. Let’s remove all the excuses.”


He added: “The dressing rooms need a lick of paint, the car park has potholes everywhere and it needs changing – if it means redirecting a few quid off the pitch into the environment where the players come to work and then we build the team then I think it’s worth it because otherwise you never get out of where you live.
“It’s trying to move the football club on. And then when we try to sign young players from the Premier League and their coaches or assistant managers come down and have a look and watch them they see a training ground with a bit of excellence about it and think they are in good hands.
“Then they think they can send another young player here because they do it properly at Coventry.
“Steve Waggott is probably sick of me spending all his money. I just want things doing – how much is a tin of paint?
“In an ideal world there would be an army of Coventry City fans wanting to come down and put the building back into shape, whether that’s painters, tilers, roofers, guys who change windows – whatever it might be – but when the players come back in July hopefully the place will be a different environment for them.”


Mowbray also wants to create more of a sense of identity at the Ricoh, something he feels has been lost since the arrival of Wasps.
“Around the dressing room area and the tunnel area there’s nothing to suggest it’s Coventry City’s home where we go to battle once a fortnight,” he said.

“So we need to brand it a little bit. Wasps brand the stadium very well when they play.
“Players need to have a pride, a cause to fight for. To walk into the building, into the dressing room, into the tunnel it’s important they see the history of the club that they are representing.”
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #6
Have they ever asked the fans to help? Get oggy and a few of the others a brush as well it's not like he would need a ladder.
 

hill83

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #7
Football fans. Turning positives into negatives 24/7
 

chiefdave

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #8
CCFC said:
“In an ideal world there would be an army of Coventry City fans wanting to come down and put the building back into shape, whether that’s painters, tilers, roofers, guys who change windows – whatever it might be – but when the players come back in July hopefully the place will be a different environment for them.”
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The would seem an obvious thing for the SBT to get involved in. There must be fans working in these trades who would be up for helping out.
 
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shy_tall_knight

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #9
Most tradesman are waiting for SISU's new year stadium announcement, brought exclusively to us by RFC or did I misread that one.
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #10
Shows you where the Chairman's and CEO's priorities haven't been.

I've been saying for ages (and been mocked for repeatedly saying so) you need to create an atmosphere that promotes success and it seems TM agrees with me.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #11
Obviously when the property side of the business went belly up so did the training ground:facepalm:
 
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wingy

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #12
Wonder what we did with all that paint we won in the JPT a year or so back
 

ccfc92

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #13
I bet this left Joy speechless when TM asked for this :laugh:
 

ccfcway

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #14
RFC said:
Pleased to see that at least some on hear read exactly what's going on and digest it unlike the first couple of posters.
It's time to stop knit picking and move forward in a much more positive way just for a change and back the manager and what he's trying to do. Onwards and upwards!
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hang on, you were telling us to back SP as chopping and changing was no good. Isnt he partially to blame for the state of the training ground ?, after all, he was the manager !
 

ccfc92

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #15
ccfcway said:
hang on, you were telling us to back SP as chopping and changing was no good. Isnt he partially to blame for the state of the training ground ?, after all, he was the manager !
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His posts don't even make sense. Just provocative nonsense.


Be interesting to know who RFC blames for the state of Ryton....
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #16
Now while I don't disagree with TM, this thread might be worth bookmarking for if we're going badly, and the accusation that we're wasting time and resources on pointless things like potholes in car parks, when we should be signing a left back...
 

skybluetony176

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #17
Deleted member 5849 said:
Now while I don't disagree with TM, this thread might be worth bookmarking for if we're going badly, and the accusation that we're wasting time and resources on pointless things like potholes in car parks, when we should be signing a left back...
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And if it's all going swimmingly I guess you'll be pulling it up to congratulate TM on the painting and decorating and pot hole filling?

 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #18
skybluetony176 said:
And if it's all going swimmingly I guess you'll be pulling it up to congratulate TM on the painting and decorating and pot hole filling?

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As I said, I don't necessarily disagree with him.

But I'd wager when it comes down to it, given the trend on this board is that we should spend any money on players and not on off-field items, a few defeats now sees an easy target to throw mud at the manager.
 

ccfcway

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #19
Deleted member 5849 said:
As I said, I don't necessarily disagree with him.

But I'd wager when it comes down to it, given the trend on this board is that we should spend any money on players and not on off-field items, a few defeats now sees an easy target to throw mud at the manager.
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its basic stuff. I completely agree with TM. How can we demand excellence and players that care about the club if it looks like the management and owners dont care about the club !

Who doesnt want their workplace to look the best in can ?
 
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Ashdown

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #20
I can see where he is coming from, players need to realise that this is the real deal playing for CCFC and it's important for thousands of people that they the club shows professionalism all round and that the rewards are potentially fantastic for maximum effort. Fair play to him all round !
 

Johnnythespider

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #21
Deleted member 5849 said:
Now while I don't disagree with TM, this thread might be worth bookmarking for if we're going badly, and the accusation that we're wasting time and resources on pointless things like potholes in car parks, when we should be signing a left back...
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What if the left back turns up at ryton, takes a look at the place, pot holes and all, and decides we aren't serious about things and signs for someone else ?
 
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wingy

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #22
They have on occasion splashed a couple of Bob on the place
Didn't Coleman have a fair bit of work done in/on the building there
Then Aidy with that stupid fence
The truth Is the people who own us have plenty of resources and should be able to keep this asset up to scratch, Its basic maintenance
Doesn't the RICOH look a bit shabby these days too hope Wasps smarten that up for us also after the last lot wasted £2.5M on that stupid Blingy Staircase
 

TheParsonsHose

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #23
Johnnythespider said:
What if the left back turns up at ryton, takes a look at the place, pot holes and all, and decides we aren't serious about things and signs for someone else ?
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Totally agree. Quality is from the bottom up.
 

stupot07

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #24
Johnnythespider said:
What if the left back turns up at ryton, takes a look at the place, pot holes and all, and decides we aren't serious about things and signs for someone else ?
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I don't imagine there's many league one clubs with the standard of facilities we have, pot holes and all.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - so please excuse any spelling or grammar errors
 
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yayasadi45

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #25
The Art of Defense


http://goo.gl/G40ZW4
 

Grendel

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #26
Johnnythespider said:
What if the left back turns up at ryton, takes a look at the place, pot holes and all, and decides we aren't serious about things and signs for someone else ?
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Yes. I'm sure the facilities at Walsall, Fleetwood and Southend are massively superior to Ryton.
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #27
Grendel said:
Yes. I'm sure the facilities at Walsall, Fleetwood and Southend are massively superior to Ryton.
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Thanks for that Grendel, i'd recorded the Southend v Wycombe game and was trying not to find out who'd won :facepalm:
 
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yayasadi45

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #28
The Art of Defense


http://goo.gl/G40ZW4
 

duffer

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #29
RFC said:
Pleased to see that at least some on hear read exactly what's going on and digest it unlike the first couple of posters.
It's time to stop knit picking and move forward in a much more positive way just for a change and back the manager and what he's trying to do. Onwards and upwards!
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Is it nitpicking to point out that there's no 'k' in 'nits'.

As one of the lads I used to play football with used to say, "There might not be an 'i' in team, but there is a 'u' in c**t!"
 

Bill Glazier

Active Member
  • May 23, 2015
  • #30
Did I read that correctly? Coventry tradesmen are supposed to fix for free the infrastructure multi million pound hedgefund Sisu have allowed to decay? A hedgefund that's used the club to try and blackmail a charity and the council into selling them the Ricoh at huge discount. Sometimes words fail me.
 

The Reverend Skyblue

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #31
Slightly off topic but I've been reading about Bristol City's ground redevelopment, the home of the football club and the new home of Bristol rugby club from next season.

its going to be a wonderful ground and shows how a top rugby club and a club the same size as ours can share facilities and build a future TOGETHER

it it can be done as I'm sure Swansea and Ospreys share as well though I'm not certain on this
 

duffer

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #32
Bill Glazier said:
Did I read that correctly? Coventry tradesmen are supposed to fix for free the infrastructure multi million pound hedgefund Sisu have allowed to decay? A hedgefund that's used the club to try and blackmail a charity and the council into selling them the Ricoh at huge discount. Sometimes words fail me.
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In truth I wouldn't begrudge giving the club a bit of help if they needed it. However I don't really have any of those fixing-up type skills, and I think there's already a surplus of people available in the 'leaving snarky comments on the internet' area.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • May 23, 2015
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The Reverend Skyblue said:
Slightly off topic but I've been reading about Bristol City's ground redevelopment, the home of the football club and the new home of Bristol rugby club from next season.

its going to be a wonderful ground and shows how a top rugby club and a club the same size as ours can share facilities and build a future TOGETHER
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Be more than happy for CRFC and CCFC to coexist.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • May 23, 2015
  • #34
The Reverend Skyblue said:
Slightly off topic but I've been reading about Bristol City's ground redevelopment, the home of the football club and the new home of Bristol rugby club from next season.

its going to be a wonderful ground and shows how a top rugby club and a club the same size as ours can share facilities and build a future TOGETHER

it it can be done as I'm sure Swansea and Ospreys share as well though I'm not certain on this
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Bristol City scenario is slightly different as the same person owns the rugby and football teams.

Swansea and Ospreys is a decent example, they were both given a 33% share of the stadium management company. Each team gets to keep all revenues generated by themselves as well as a split of all other revenues. The split is done by a calculation, so for the naming rights and stadium sponsortship as an example Swansea will probably receive the majority of the cash as they are the biggest attraction of the two.
 

ccfcway

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  • May 24, 2015
  • #35
Grendel said:
Yes. I'm sure the facilities at Walsall, Fleetwood and Southend are massively superior to Ryton.
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come on Grendal, even you wouldn't argue that those clubs shouldn't be where we are aiming to be ?.

If we have any aspirations whatsoever, i am not sure out benchmarks for facilities should be fleetwood, southend et al. (no disrespect to them)
 
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