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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #106
Sky Blue Pete said:
Really?
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Sadly probably. Of the three victims of child abuse I know and the one adult rape victim all of them had their lives changed and none have become productive members of society.

I hate the “you’re permanently broken” message around abuse, but it’s what I’ve seen in a limited sample.
 

Bugsy

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #107
Just a question Pete, no disrespect but how would U feel about someone like that doing that to one of Ur kids/niece or nephew, because I know what I would like to do.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #108
shmmeee said:
Sadly probably. Of the three victims of child abuse I know and the one adult rape victim all of them had their lives changed and none have become productive members of society.

I hate the “you’re permanently broken” message around abuse, but it’s what I’ve seen in a limited sample.
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Ok
My own experience is diffferent from very close to home but that doesn’t negate yours
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #109
Bugsy said:
Just a question Pete, no disrespect but how would U feel about someone like that doing that to one of Ur kids/niece or nephew, because I know what I would like to do.
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Its happened bugsy
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #110
Sick Boy said:
Any kind of rape should be a minimum 20 years without exception.
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Sick Boy said:
Any kind of rape should be a minimum 20 years without exception.
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It wouldn’t work but I totally understand the sentiment
It’s why we have aggravating factors and mitigation etc etc
 

Bugsy

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #111
Sky Blue Pete said:
Its happened bugsy
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Apologies Pete and I didn't mean anything by it as I didn't know but you must be a stronger man than me then mate.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #112
Bugsy said:
Apologies Pete and I didn't mean anything by it as I didn't know but you must be a stronger man than me then mate.
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Not strength and not easy. It’s different choices if anything
It’s trying to live out my faith when the rubber hits the road
And don’t get me wrong I am still often a xxxx and don’t make good choices
 
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Bugsy

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #113
Sky Blue Pete said:
Not strength and not easy. It’s different choices if anything
It’s trying to live out my faith when the rubber hits the road
And don’t get me wrong I am still often a xxxx and don’t make good choices
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We're all human mate and none of us are perfect but doesn't alter the fact that in my eyes the perpetrator should pay the ultimate price for a hideous crime like that.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #114
Bugsy said:
We're all human mate and none of us are perfect but doesn't alter the fact that in my eyes the perpetrator should pay the ultimate price for a hideous crime like that.
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Death?
 

covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #115
It is horrible OP

And I'm not trolling here but honestly I find it crazy that so many of British public can be horrified at married at 9 but have no issues with their kids having sex from age 13 or 14 as if it's normal behaviour

It's literally just 4-5 years later.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #116
Bugsy said:
We're all human mate and none of us are perfect but doesn't alter the fact that in my eyes the perpetrator should pay the ultimate price for a hideous crime like that.
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I should clarify it’s not this situation I’m sorry if I gave that impression it was criminally bad but not that bad
 

nicksar

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #117
Not something I've shared previously on the forum but the last time I was arrested by the police (been arrested 3 times in my 70 years, only convicted once) was over 30 years ago when my eldest daughter (aged 8 at the time) came home from her friends house and told her Mum that her friends Dad had started to get her to sit on his lap while watching Kids programmes on tv and was trying to put his hand down her pants, she told me and said we should contact the police.
I went ballistic and went round their house to sort the bloke out (that's when the police turned up) ,my wife had phoned them.
Cut a long story fairly short the Detective that interviewed me said I should let the police deal with the situation and not take the law into my own hands.
Fair enough,he was arrested and bailed on condition that he didn't stay in his families home while the investigation took place.
My Daughter had four months of counselling that to be honest was absolutely brilliant, she's done really well in life.
The detective that led the investigation eventually came to see us and explained that the Crown Prosecution service had decided not to prosecute her friends Dad because they couldn't be sure of a guilty outcome and felt they didn't want to put my Daughter through any more possible mental health stress etc
The Kicker for me was when he told us he was very sorry because her friends Dad had previous for a similar offence.
Every chance the c**t did it again to other girls.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #118
covcity4life said:
It is horrible OP

And I'm not trolling here but honestly I find it crazy that so many of British public can be horrified at married at 9 but have no issues with their kids having sex from age 13 or 14 as if it's normal behaviour

It's literally just 4-5 years later.
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That’s bout the average age isn’t it
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #119
nicksar said:
Not something I've shared previously on the forum but the last time I was arrested by the police (been arrested 3 times in my 70 years, only convicted once) was over 30 years ago when my eldest daughter (aged 8 at the time) came home from her friends house and told her Mum that her friends Dad had started to get her to sit on his lap while watching Kids programmes on tv and was trying to put his hand down her pants, she told me and said we should contact the police.
I went ballistic and went round their house to sort the bloke out (that's when the police turned up) ,my wife had phoned them.
Cut a long story fairly short the Detective that interviewed me said I should let the police deal with the situation and not take the law into my own hands.
Fair enough,he was arrested and bailed on condition that he didn't stay in his families home while the investigation took place.
My Daughter had four months of counselling that to be honest was absolutely brilliant, she's done really well in life.
The detective that led the investigation eventually came to see us and explained that the Crown Prosecution service had decided not to prosecute her friends Dad because they couldn't be sure of a guilty outcome and felt they didn't want to put my Daughter through any more possible mental health stress etc
The Kicker for me was when he told us he was very sorry because her friends Dad had previous for a similar offence.
Every chance the c**t did it again to other girls.
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I’m sorry nicksar that’s awful
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #120
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s bout the average age isn’t it
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Which I find crazy. They are still kids. I'm not sure how u can be outraged at 9 but not rly bothered about 13.

I could understand someone who thinks 16-18 is right time to start being horrified at 9 but not someone who's ok with it happening just 3-4 years later that's my only point I guess.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #121
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ok
My own experience is diffferent from very close to home but that doesn’t negate yours
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I’m glad to hear it and I’d imagine people who have been abused and worked through it are much less likely to tell friends about it.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #122
covcity4life said:
Which I find crazy. They are still kids. I'm not sure how u can be outraged at 9 but not rly bothered about 13.

I could understand someone who thinks 16-18 is right time to start being horrified at 9 but not someone who's ok with it happening just 3-4 years later that's my only point I guess.
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Puberty is the difference
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #123
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s bout the average age isn’t it
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No. Very few kids have sex under 16, lots say they do though.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #124
shmmeee said:
Puberty is the difference
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Fair point. Still think it's too young mentally too though. They are still children really.

Not sure why you did a poo emoji. Just a discussion.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #125
Edit: deleted as I completely misread the post I was replying to and it’s not really a tread to divert from the original, horrific, subject
 
Last edited: Jan 13, 2025
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #126
covcity4life said:
Not sure why you did a poo emoji. Just a discussion.
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I think comparing 14 year olds having consensual sex to a man raping a ten year old is disgusting TBH.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #127
shmmeee said:
I think comparing 14 year olds having consensual sex to a man raping a ten year old is disgusting TBH.
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Well then you have taken it the wrong way completely
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #128
covcity4life said:
Well then you have taken it the wrong way completely
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No i haven’t. You’ve come into a thread about child rape to try and make some weird point about your issues with British teenagers which aren’t even particularly true. It’s fucking weird, and racist to boot.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #129
shmmeee said:
No i haven’t. You’ve come into a thread about child rape to try and make some weird point about your issues with British teenagers which aren’t even particularly true. It’s fucking weird, and racist to boot.
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Wow that's crazy. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your always looking for an argument.

It's just something that came to mind. Looking down on young marriage cos of the sex but some wouldn't care in 3-4 years time. That was literally my only point. I was thinking out loud.

And I didn't factor in the consentual part of it I'll admit that so I completely agree they are not the same at all actually.

But how dare you call me racist. I don't see colour when I'm helping any one thank you very much.
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #130
covcity4life said:
Wow that's crazy. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your always looking for an argument.

It's just something that came to mind. Looking down on young marriage cos of the sex but some wouldn't care in 3-4 years time. That was literally my only point. I was thinking out loud.

And I didn't factor in the consentual part of it I'll admit that so I completely agree they are not the same at all actually.

But how dare you call me racist. I don't see colour when I'm helping any one thank you very much.
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Why did it come to mind exactly?

“Looking down on young marriage” what?

Your post specifically called out “British public” why?

Id stop digging if I were you. This isn’t a joke and isn’t a bit I think you’re fucking sick.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #131
shmmeee said:
Why did it come to mind exactly?

“Looking down on young marriage” what?

Your post specifically called out “British public” why?

Id stop digging if I were you. This isn’t a joke and isn’t a bit I think you’re fucking sick.
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I think you have mental health issues I really do. You ain't been right recently.

British public includes black and Asian people. Or do you think they don't have sex as teens???? In fact my school is majority black students. I can't comment on public of a different country cos I'm only British.

I can't say it any more honestly and clearly. I think sex at 9 is wrong I think sex at 13 is wrong. It's a forum I just said it and interested for others opinions. Pete and dart didn't feel the need to kick off about it. If I have offended anyone I apologise and I hope they can understand why I brought it up now.

You brought up rape and I accept I didn't even think of that part of it when I made emy post. I am not saying they are comparable in any way.

You have a problem with me lately and I do not know why. It can't just be the lampard robins stuff surely.
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #132
covcity4life said:
Which I find crazy. They are still kids. I'm not sure how u can be outraged at 9 but not rly bothered about 13.

I could understand someone who thinks 16-18 is right time to start being horrified at 9 but not someone who's ok with it happening just 3-4 years later that's my only point I guess.
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Most parents would be horrified at their children having sex at 13 , married or sex at 9 years old is simply sick
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #133
covcity4life said:
I think you have mental health issues I really do. You ain't been right recently.

British public includes black and Asian people. Or do you think they don't have sex as teens???? In fact my school is majority black students. I can't comment on public of a different country cos I'm only British.

I can't say it any more honestly and clearly. I think sex at 9 is wrong I think sex at 13 is wrong. It's a forum I just said it and interested for others opinions. Pete and dart didn't feel the need to kick off about it. If I have offended anyone I apologise and I hope they can understand why I brought it up now.

You brought up rape and I accept I didn't even think of that part of it when I made emy post. I am not saying they are comparable in any way.

You have a problem with me lately and I do not know why. It can't just be the lampard robins stuff surely.
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Once again this is a thread about child rape. And you think two 14 year olds having sex is comparable.

I’ll put it simply:

- Number of people I know whose lives have been destroyed by being raped as a kid: 3

- Number of people I know whose lives were destroyed by having consensual sex with another teenager: 0

Deflect all you like.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #134
Evo1883 said:
Most parents would be horrified at their children having sex at 13 , married or sex at 9 years old is simply sick
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That's all I was curious about. How ppl feel about it. Maybe my post came across like I was saying all posters don't care? Wasnt my intention anyway
 

covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #135
shmmeee said:
Once again this is a thread about child rape. And you think two 14 year olds having sex is comparable.

I’ll put it simply:

- Number of people I know whose lives have been destroyed by being raped as a kid: 3

- Number of people I know whose lives were destroyed by having consensual sex with another teenager: 0

Deflect all you like.
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I have just said they ain't comparable. I mean I have said it twice now

I literally said I take your point and agree 100 percent????
 

Evo1883

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #136
covcity4life said:
That's all I was curious about. How ppl feel about it. Maybe my post came across like I was saying all posters don't care? Wasnt my intention anyway
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I just don't know why we've diverted from the subject tbh
 

shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #137
Evo1883 said:
I just don't know why we've diverted from the subject tbh
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Quite.
 

covcity4life

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #138
Evo1883 said:
I just don't know why we've diverted from the subject tbh
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I just typed what I was thinking at time. Didn't think it would become such a big thing.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #139
shmmeee said:
I think comparing 14 year olds having consensual sex to a man raping a ten year old is disgusting TBH.
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Not sure he was to be fair
 
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shmmeee

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  • Jan 13, 2025
  • #140
covcity4life said:
I have just said they ain't comparable. I mean I have said it twice now

I literally said I take your point and agree 100 percent????
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No you said I was mentally ill for having a problem with you trying to make these two comparable. It was at best a remarkable stupid post even for you and at worst a minimisation of one of the most heinous and destructive crimes someone can commit.
 
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