duffer
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In what way, exactly? No need for snarky pointless bollocks, which I know is your preference, in what way?
Do you think all Muslims are the same, for starters?
You've literally proved my point. Congratulations.
Just to be clear, did you shake each others heads or just your own?My missus showed it to me and we have just spent the whole afternoon shaking our heads
YepWtf. That's paedophilia.
In what way, exactly? No need for snarky pointless bollocks, which I know is your preference, in what way?
Do you think all Muslims are the same, for starters?
Ah, the laughing emoji, what a surprise. Do you really think you win the argument by just sitting there gurning? So, so weak.
Bit of advice; think before posting obvious nonsense. At the moment you have to hide behind a laughing emoji every time you're called out. It's a bit embarrassing for you really.
It might be better to just put you on ignore. Clearly you've got fuck all intelligent to say, just a quick provocative statement and then run away. Tedious.
I have told you before, it is pointless to engage with you as you are so stuck in an echo chamber you cannot communicate properly.
I made my point, you then qualified it with flying colours. The fact you still cannot see it loops back round to what I have said in line one. You lost the argument before you realised you were even partaking in one, which actually makes your slightly unhinged double response even funnier.
Don't massively want to wade in here, but worth mentioning that you don't appear to have made any point. Unless I missed it, or your point was the statement nullified by a bunch of posts which came before your own.
You've responded to my point and got defensive about it, so you know exactly what I'm talking about. You also proved it true in the first place.
So your point is that "the left" (I don't personally politically box myself) can't criticise Islam? Isn't that what everyone has done on this thread? Or are you saying it needs to be a complete rejection of all Muslims? In which case, can you not comprehend that some of us may not have the exact same experience with those who follow Islam as you do?
Yes, everyone has done but you (until I pointed it out), and Duffer/Dreamer (who are incapable of it). That was my point, and you've all proved it.
The rest about 'not all muslims' is just scraping the barrell at deflection and has nothing to do with what I am saying, which you know.
So what are you looking for, a denoucement of the religion of Islam, or a denouncement of muslims?
I don't need to denounce a disgusting regime policy on lowering age of consent to 9 years old, it's a given. Or are you saying anyone registered on the forum who hasn't specifically denounced it on this thread, is in agreement?
If you begin a discussion on such an absurdity, there's no point discussing at all.
I've made my point and you and some others have qualified it. The rest of the conversation is redundant at this stage, but please carry on at your own perogative.
And just to clear, and so it's recorded, your point is that anyone who doesn't denounce islam/muslims (unclear) on this thread, automatically agrees with the age of consent being 9 years old.
Brilliant. Well worth the discussion.
I wish you were actually this stupid to think that, but it really just shows the level of manipulation some of you will go to to play down any criticism of Islam. This projection really is next level.
Fucking weird behaviour. As I said, carry on.
You’ve honestly never met a non-hardline Muslim?For the uneducated on this (me) can you be anything other than hard-line islamist? Is there a 'light' version of Islam for eg people like me who are not religious but consider themselves Christian or is it all or nothing? I'm not trying to be provocative and realise I could Google, but for the argument you're all having, do you believe it's one thing or the other or are there some grey areas?
That's not what I meant as well you know.You’ve honestly never met a non-hardline Muslim?
Yeah there are loads of them
My reply wasn’t meant to be provocative either!That's not what I meant as well you know.
I intended if the religion of Islam meant all or nothing and therefore if they don't go all in, is that ok or are they in some way betraying their belief.
I specifically said it wasn't meant to be provocative.
Not for me to say, but anecdotally the people I know who are devout/attend mosque regularly etc would find this law repugnant. Clearly the law itself is controversial even within Iraq itself.I think what I mean is if you go to the mosque to pray regularly and believe in the Koran and support the religious beliefs, do you therefore wholeheartedly commit and does that mean you have ideology like in the disgusting opening post forced on you and to accept and in many ways normalise that belief or is that held only by a few radical extremists?
Also, before anyone gets upset about me trying to talk about Muslims in human terms - this age of consent law in Iraq is really bad, and the people behind it are also very bad.
Probably my question isn't clear either. I know people who have been brought up muslim who consider themselves Muslim but have no real religious affinity and likely only go to mosques for big religious or family events when they feel compelled to do so.
I think what I mean is if you go to the mosque to pray regularly and believe in the Koran and support the religious beliefs, do you therefore wholeheartedly commit and does that mean you have ideology like in the disgusting opening post forced on you and to accept and in many ways normalise that belief or is that held only by a few radical extremists?
I'm pretty sure those with the radical views are in the minority, but those that are hardline get an awful lot of coverage because of their views and the fanatical way they go about getting their way.Probably my question isn't clear either. I know people who have been brought up muslim who consider themselves Muslim but have no real religious affinity and likely only go to mosques for big religious or family events when they feel compelled to do so.
I think what I mean is if you go to the mosque to pray regularly and believe in the Koran and support the religious beliefs, do you therefore wholeheartedly commit and does that mean you have ideology like in the disgusting opening post forced on you and to accept and in many ways normalise that belief or is that held only by a few radical extremists?
Any religion/church which supports an under age sex/marriage should be immediately and comprehensively banned. Anyone practising it or encouraging it in UK should be jailed immediately.
Any religion/church which supports an under age sex/marriage should be immediately and comprehensively banned. Anyone practising it or encouraging it in UK should be jailed immediately.
I'm not sure what the West's current view on sharia law is as apparently it's all good in SyriaView attachment 39299
My missus showed it to me and we have just spent the whole afternoon shaking our heads in total dismay.
We had a 9 year old Ukrainian girl stay with us, when we accommodated her family for a year and she was so innocent and so childlike, as obviously she should have been.
But even trying to imagine her as being married, just seems completely incredulous.
It's insane.
Wtf. That's paedophilia
I expec5 sharia law is viewed as fine As long as it’s stays in it’sown places.I'm not sure what the West's current view on sharia law is as apparently it's all good in Syria
“We aren’t Otis, it’s more that Islam remains rooted in the Middle Ages. And so, as the western and chritian democracies move forward the gap keeps getting wider., leading to the incredulity being expressed about these sort of pronouncements.It's like in over 20 centuries we have learnt nothing.
One thing I hate about religion, is that pretty much across the board, females are, or have been, devalued, treated awfully and left without a voice.
Why are we going backwards instead of forwards?
The country with the youngest Judicial age of marriage is Sudan with the age of 10 or Puberty.Islam doesn’t impose a specific age for marriage like Christianity and leaves it for the legal authorities to decide the proper age for marriage in order to maintain interests of both husbands and wives. Its the Country's Lawmakers/Politicians that decide so if lower than 18 then you cant blame the religion of Islam. Not sure if there are any Christian countries with marriage age limits less than 18?
Utmost!No just you Dim lad. This an interesting grown up thread/conversation not deliberately stoking racial stereotypes, although you and a couple of others will try their upmost hardest. Any religion/church which supports an under age sex/marriage should be immediately and comprehensively banned. Anyone practising it or encouraging it in UK should be jailed immediately. No evidence that this is not the case.
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