Hoffman, Elliott, Byng were all there today as i sat infront of them aswell as Hoffmans kids. Elliott kept batting on about hearing that Clarke hasnt been fit all season and Hoffman was starting chants for "Tim Fisher is a W*nker" aswell as "We want sisu out" Byng kept on mentioning his constortium but i couldnt quite catch the details.
Was he really starting those chants? Nearly as bad as that video of Elliott singing we want sisu out....
I know this thread has no significance but it was a little odd seeing byng there aswell cus i didnt know he went to many games, also hoffman did seem a bit reluctant to have pictures with fans who wanted one.
People really wanted a picture with him?
If true it's embarrassing.. no doubt people were sporting a semi trying to shake these heros hands.
Not sure why its any more embarrassing than any other City fan singing it. And it's fairly obvious to all that they really do want Sisu out and probably do think Timmy Fisher What A Wanker What A Wanker too.
Was Fisher there? did he go round thanking the fans for their support? did he hell!
Because elliott brought them in.. would we want these people running the club?
Not sure why its any more embarrassing than any other City fan singing it. And it's fairly obvious to all that they really do want Sisu out and probably do think Timmy Fisher What A Wanker What A Wanker too.
It's embarrassing as they are positioning themselves as potential owners if they get financial backing. Here is a list of names for you;
Glazier brothers
Daniel levy
Ken bates
Barry fry
Bill kenwright
Mile Ashley
How would each of these behave on your opinion? Which would play to the gallery and which wouldn't!
It's catch 22 isn't it. Anyone acting like a normal fan "isn't professional" and anyone professional "isn't a normal fan".
I personally prefer to split home and work personas, I agree its harder to do for these guys but if they're going to come down on the wrong side of the line Id rather it was this side.
I also think people can change their mind as evidence comes to light. Never understood the obsession with "flip flopping" or whatever in any debate. Surely the rational person changes their view according to evidence, to do otherwise is the very definition of irrational decision making?
For the record, I want neither associated with the club officially going forward, but not for things like this.
It's embarrassing as they are positioning themselves as potential owners if they get financial backing. Here is a list of names for you;
Glazier brothers
Daniel levy
Ken bates
Barry fry
Bill kenwright
Mile Ashley
How would each of these behave on your opinion? Which would play to the gallery and which wouldn't!
So Gary Hoffman was starting off the chants about Tim Fisher....................
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I don't think it proves you are a real fan for singing songs about people though, what would happen if Tim Fisher called Joe Elliott a wanker? There would be carnage.
I think you can be professional and a normal fan without starting off abusive songs about the owners (who they worked with and one brought in).
That is if it is true, but there is a video of eliot nearly creaming his pants singing sisu out...
Point is they're fans first. They're in the crowd. They're not under the employ of the club. None of these are true about Fisher, so its apples and oranges.
Can no fan who has ever been involved in the club ever take a position consistent with a large portion of the normal fanbase?
For me it's the same as a politician tweeting his cock. Nothing to do with his ability to do the job, just gossip.
Hoffman and Elliot hate Sisu. So what? Are they involved in negotiations between ACL and Sisu? No. Do they want Sisu removed like many fans and just happen to be in a better position to actually do something about it? Yes. Should they change their views about a club they supported before becoming business people because of their involvement? No.
Your beliefs and your actions on the job are two separate things, a professional can sing Sisu Out as a fan and still enter into professional negotiations.
Again. Just my opinion on how people should be treated. I could be snarky and say that it's fairly obvious you don't believe in separating personal views from how you do a job. But I wouldn't
It's embarrassing as they are positioning themselves as potential owners if they get financial backing. Here is a list of names for you;
Glazier brothers
Daniel levy
Ken bates
Barry fry
Bill kenwright
Mile Ashley
How would each of these behave on your opinion? Which would play to the gallery and which wouldn't!
See above. I don't know enough about other clubs to comment on their owners, but were all those verifiable fans of the clubs beforehand? That's the key question for me. Have they changed because of their involvement?
Not sure why its any more embarrassing than any other City fan singing it. And it's fairly obvious to all that they really do want Sisu out and probably do think Timmy Fisher What A Wanker What A Wanker too.
....... plus we are now getting on at people who may pick up the gauntlet. Let Sisu drop it and if they don't pick it up then give the stick.
we surely don't want these jokers picking up the gauntlet. Been there done that and still dealing with the consequences of a monumental cock up....... plus we are now getting on at people who may pick up the gauntlet. Let Sisu drop it and if they don't pick it up then give the stick.
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I don't think it proves you are a real fan for singing songs about people though, what would happen if Tim Fisher called Joe Elliott a wanker? There would be carnage.
I think you can be professional and a normal fan without starting off abusive songs about the owners (who they worked with and one brought in).
That is if it is true, but there is a video of eliot nearly creaming his pants singing sisu out...
Or it maybe exaggerated
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