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Hiwula’s movement (or lack off) (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter BlueElephant
  • Start date Aug 25, 2019
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BlueElephant

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #1
Love Hiwula but I really feel he lets himself down by not running into the channels and 90% of the time wants the ball at his feet, even Godden yesterday was making the runs he should’ve been making! Is this down to the fact he just isn’t a natural winger or it is just laziness?
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #2
I actually thought he put in some good defensive work in the 2nd half to support Mason.

Attacking wise... it was his 2nd consecutive poor game at home... Early days, but he needs to improve.
 
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Hobo

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #3
Hiwula does what he does and does it well. We are blessed to have a player who likes it into feet in tight situations. The big problem is we dont get him on tbe ball enough.

Gillingham and Southend were doubling up on him. They didnt on Jobello. But two men watching Hiwula should create space for someone else.
 
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Magwitch

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #4
Didn’t have the best of games yesterday for some reason he couldn’t trap a bag of cement, but he put a shift in work wise.
 

Hobo

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #5
lord_garrincha said:
I actually thought he put in some good defensive work in the 2nd half to support Mason.

Attacking wise... it was his 2nd consecutive poor game at home... Early days, but he needs to improve.
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He certainly did and why he wasnt substituted. He had a very good game. First half involved in some lovely attacking moves. Second half rolled his sleeves up and ran the hard dirty yards.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #6
Maybe he doesn't like collecting the ball on the run because his first touch/trapping isn't the greatest? It's easier to do when standing still so that's why he likes the ball to feet and then looks to move from there
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #7
That's hiwalu he was like that last season but if he scores 10/15 goals again from the wing and contributes defensively I have no issues with him.
 
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Kieranp96

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #8
Hobo said:
He certainly did and why he wasnt substituted. He had a very good game. First half involved in some lovely attacking moves. Second half rolled his sleeves up and ran the hard dirty yards.
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We don't have anyone on the bench who can play left, unless that ohare can play there.
 

harvey098

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #9
Decent league 1 player. Not sure he would be the answer if we went up though. He snatches at his shots sometimes but always looks dangerous on the ball and creates things.

There was a spell near the start of last season where he couldn’t get in the team and didn’t start many but he forced his way back in and bagged a good total in the end.

Doesn’t sulk when stuck out wide and even works hard tracking back as some have said above. He’ll do another good job this season.
 

speedie87

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #10
Last season I felt he was coming inside a lot more which I think he’s happier doing, definitely looks likes he,s been told stay out wider when in possession so far this season.
 
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pastythegreat

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #11
BlueElephant said:
Love Hiwula but I really feel he lets himself down by not running into the channels and 90% of the time wants the ball at his feet, even Godden yesterday was making the runs he should’ve been making! Is this down to the fact he just isn’t a natural winger or it is just laziness?
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I do notice a LOT of the time, with the stray 50/50 balls to nowhere, hes very slow to react and is normally on his heels and gets to MOST of these second. A little bit more awareness and he could nick loads of balls in and around their box because hes not slow by any means, just slow to react.

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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #12
I thought he was poor yesterday not to say he isn’t capable of a goal at any time
 

cooperskyblue

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #13
Hiwula is someone who is a good player for us, top scorer last season and by now we know what to expect. He will always have a period where he drifts out of a game, but you always think he is capable of producing a goal or mazy run out of nothing.

He is the sort of player who could be nullified for 85 mins but then do something great and be a match winner.

I suppose it's frustrating because he could get 20 goals if he was more consistent. Yesterday he was quiet, agree with others that defensively I thought he got back well in 2nd half, but never had that moment that opened them up.

With Godden always making tuns in behind hopefully that will allow Hiwula to move inside and have more shooting opportunities.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 25, 2019
  • #14
speedie87 said:
Last season I felt he was coming inside a lot more which I think he’s happier doing, definitely looks likes he,s been told stay out wider when in possession so far this season.
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Will end up with a lot of babies doing that
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Sep 8, 2019
  • #15
9 games, 3 goals, 3 assists thus far.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 8, 2019
  • #16
Much better yesterday. His quick feet set up 2 goals
 
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stevefloyd

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  • Sep 8, 2019
  • #17
Even though he drifted in and out I thought he played ok yesterday, great finish for the disallowed goal. He needs to impose himself more on games but he is ticking along with a few assists and goals
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 8, 2019
  • #18
ccfchoi87 said:
9 games, 3 goals, 3 assists thus far.
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When you look at it that way its a good return
 
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block16

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #19
I think due to the lack of any obvious weak point in the team, people are pointing the finger at Hiwula because he goes largely unnoticed for long periods. Doesn’t mean he’s playing poor. He’s effective and does his job well. Quick feat and a good finisher that’s versatile across the front line. As above, 3 goals 3 assists and was great on Saturday. A very important player for us this season
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #20
block16 said:
I think due to the lack of any obvious weak point in the team, people are pointing the finger at Hiwula because he goes largely unnoticed for long periods. Doesn’t mean he’s playing poor. He’s effective and does his job well. Quick feat and a good finisher that’s versatile across the front line. As above, 3 goals 3 assists and was great on Saturday. A very important player for us this season
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Yep I think that’s fair. I thought his skill on the ball on occasion Saturday was really excellent
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #21
BlueElephant said:
Love Hiwula but I really feel he lets himself down by not running into the channels and 90% of the time wants the ball at his feet, even Godden yesterday was making the runs he should’ve been making! Is this down to the fact he just isn’t a natural winger or it is just laziness?
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He's told to run on the inside of the defender, his starting position means he can't run into the channels really, it'd be pointless anyway. His movement is good just we're often a bit too slow to see it.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #22
Anyone seen if he was offside Saturday. Took his chance really well
 
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ccfchoi87

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #23
Sky Blue Pete said:
Anyone seen if he was offside Saturday. Took his chance really well
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Yeah he was offside.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #24
fernandopartridge said:
He's told to run on the inside of the defender, his starting position means he can't run into the channels really, it'd be pointless anyway. His movement is good just we're often a bit too slow to see it.
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and he did it consistently on Saturday but as you say, we weren't finding him.
Mason seems to find him with that ball more often when he's playing.
 

clint van damme

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #25
Sky Blue Pete said:
Anyone seen if he was offside Saturday. Took his chance really well
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according to Robins he wasn't.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #26
Did a great bit of skill on Saturday to take about 2 of their players out of the game.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #27
clint van damme said:
and he did it consistently on Saturday but as you say, we weren't finding him.
Mason seems to find him with that ball more often when he's playing.
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That's what Robins is talking about when he's on about players being brave, our midfield this season generally hasn't been. Even for Hiwula's offside goal, Shipley delayed a second or two playing that ball
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #28
2 Assists Saturday i think
 

speedie87

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #29
Think he was either given license to come in off the wing a bit more on Saturday or just did it himself more like last season. Either way was more involved
 

Liquid Gold

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #30
I've not been impressed with him so far this season but he was much improved on Saturday. Not just the assists but some good link up play and working the defenders.

Do think we'll need to move him on next year as he's not Championship material.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #31
Liquid Gold said:
I've not been impressed with him so far this season but he was much improved on Saturday. Not just the assists but some good link up play and working the defenders.

Do think we'll need to move him on next year as he's not Championship material.
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Depends on if he's willing to become more of an impact sub/bit part player at that level. But let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet - we all know Lady Luck tends to like crocking our most important players sooner or later in a season - we've already got Kelly out for a bit and Allen has missed the first month!
 

ccfcricoh

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #32
I think Hiwula is more effective than Jobello, also think that when Mason is back that will make Hiwula look slightly better
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #33
Looking at his pass for the third he passes to Godden but before it can run through ohare is on it in a flash and smashes it home. Assist??? Maybe
 

larry_david

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  • Sep 9, 2019
  • #34
The last goal he pokes it through someone's legs, hits a leg and moves into the path of o'hare. Fluke assist (I think) but we'll absolutely take it
 
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