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wingy

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,121
Back to topic.

Is this Majid guy from the Uni worth further Scrutiny ?

What was his motivation /angle ,can Simon trace him?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,122
What was his motivation /angle ,can Simon trace him?

He is probably too.tired after all that writing today

Sorry
 

spider_ricoh

New Member
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,123
Sky Blue Kid said:
http://www.sportskeeda.com/football/breakdown-wayne-rooney-wages-manchester-united/
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so 16 hours of Ronney's time or in other words a single waking day
 

hill83

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,124
Nick said:
It will happen, even if I have to make it happen on here with automatic word changes!

Like bantanamo bay!
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Or Roque Banter Cruz
 
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kmj5000

Member
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,125
Grendel said:
So tying balloons to the car was relevant?
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No it wasn't, but the SISU QC was obviously getting desperate!
 

sky blue john

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,126
kmj5000 said:
No it wasn't, but the SISU QC was obviously getting desperate!
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If thats all Sisu have got im sure the council are bricking it for the JR !!!!
 

Astute

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,127
Grendel said:
So tying balloons to the car was relevant?
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I thought you said nothing was of relevance in this case. So of course it wasn't. Or was that until you read something that could be seen to go against your most hated enemy CCC? Suddenly it is a thread worth reading.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,128
lordsummerisle said:
That's where they send members of The Talibant isn't it?
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What about those cool East German 2 stroke cars Tre-Bants !!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,129
Back and forth ballroom banter with banton du bec
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,130
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,131
sky blue john said:
If thats all Sisu have got im sure the council are bricking it for the JR !!!!
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Is your real name perry mason?
 

spider_ricoh

New Member
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,132
shmmeee said:

couldn't agree more...when will this saga ever end???

in a way i would like to tune out and re-surface when it has all blown over and we're back at the Ricoh (which will surely happen at some point once everyone has done their utmost to save face, which is clearly what this is about now).

however it is also morbidly fascinated, like watching a car crash in slow motion.
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shmmeee

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,133
I was on about the bantastic banter on here.

Though it applies to the whole CCFC saga as well.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,134
Grendel said:
Is your real name perry mason?
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Don't worry, Tonylinc will be along soon to explain the legal ins and outs.

He's a lawyer apparently.
 

spider_ricoh

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,135
Grendel said:
Is your real name perry mason?
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Well I've worked in a legal environment with lots of contract experience and, trying to be independent here, SISU's case looks pretty weak. Can't say for sure but on the basis of today I'd guess the judge is going to award the £29k to Higgs.

Shame this has come first because one side effect could be that SISU raise their game for the big cup final against CCC in June. We simply cannot afford them to win that if we are going to get a CCFC back at the Ricoh under non-SISU ownership.
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,136
Grendel said:
Is your real name perry mason?
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Raymond Burr !! Spooky those Intials.
 

duffer

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,137
I'm trying to think what SISU have got so far that helps them in the JR. A council officer may or may not have misled someone from Higgs, but what difference does that make to SISU's case? We know that SISU threatened to pull out of CCFC in April 2012, and stopped paying the rent at the same time.

That clearly threatened ACL (and CCFC incidentally), and the council as a shareholder to ACL were surely entitled to act to protect their investment.

The one thing that does seem clear now, is that there's no question that AEHC and CCC acted in concert to push out SISU.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,138
Fuck me, 114 pages.

Might catch up by the time of the JR
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,139
spider_ricoh said:
Well I've worked in a legal environment with lots of contract experience and, trying to be independent here, SISU's case looks pretty weak. Can't say for sure but on the basis of today I'd guess the judge is going to award the £29k to Higgs.

Shame this has come first because one side effect could be that SISU raise their game for the big cup final against CCC in June. We simply cannot afford them to win that if we are going to get a CCFC back at the Ricoh under non-SISU ownership.
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I'd be extremely surprised if Higgs don't win this case, think Sisu would be even more surprised.

The only doubt would be if the agreement by Sisu to pay the Higgs costs was tied up in the HOT agreeement, which as we all know wasn't signed.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,140
Deleted member 5849 said:
Fuck me, 114 pages.

Might catch up by the time of the JR
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Change your settings to show maximum posts per page.

I'm only on page 29!
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,141
lordsummerisle said:
Don't worry, Tonylinc will be along soon to explain the legal ins and outs.

He's a lawyer apparently.
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Banter claus pulls one out of his gag sack
 

spider_ricoh

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,142
lordsummerisle said:
I'd be extremely surprised if Higgs don't win this case, think Sisu would be even more surprised.

The only doubt would be if the agreement by Sisu to pay the Higgs costs was tied up in the HOT agreeement, which as we all know wasn't signed.
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You wonder why SISU have brought the counter-suit really, unless you believe ACL's claim that Joy told them SISU would harrass ACL with litigation at every opportunity until they got the Ricoh for £4m with no negotation. That was said before the JR application was made so even if she didn't say that, the facts are bearing this out as SISU strategy.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,143
Nick said:
Banter claus pulls one out of his gag sack
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Well, I'm from Banton Rouge originally.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,144
What's on the court agenda tomorrow?
 
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wingy

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,145
duffer said:
I'm trying to think what SISU have got so far that helps them in the JR. A council officer may or may not have misled someone from Higgs, but what difference does that make to SISU's case? We know that SISU threatened to pull out of CCFC in April 2012, and stopped paying the rent at the same time.

That clearly threatened ACL (and CCFC incidentally), and the council as a shareholder to ACL were surely entitled to act to protect their investment.

The one thing that does seem clear now, is that there's no question that AEHC and CCC acted in concert to push out SISU.
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Does that last line indicate certainty ,and push out SISU from what exactly.
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,146
spider_ricoh said:
You wonder why SISU have brought the counter-suit really, unless you believe ACL's claim that Joy told them SISU would harrass ACL with litigation at every opportunity until they got the Ricoh for £4m with no negotation. That was said before the JR application was made so even if she didn't say that, the facts are bearing this out as SISU strategy.
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Counter-suit merely a diversionary/warning tactic I'd have thought.

Don't think it was brought to get more information for Sisu either, as it seems from their questioning that they would have already known about anything "revealed" today.
 

spider_ricoh

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,147
wingy said:
Does that last line indicate certainty ,and push out SISU from what exactly.
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Not sure you an be certain based on what we've seen today, but he is talking about whether those two organisation worked together to force SISU out of ownership of CCFC.

In fairness to SISU (cough cough), I do remember around the time ACL made their application for admin that someone from ACL said "we want to get a new tenant into the stadium" and that was clearly described as a new owner of CCFC. It was in the CT at the time, maybe even have been PWKH
 

Samo

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,148
Can anyone give me a brief lowdown on today and save me reading 50 pages please?
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,149
I am hoping and looking forward to Timothy taking to the stand. He would have to tell the truth and not spin his way through the questions. We could find some good stuff out. And so far it looks like we have had nothing but the truth so lies from him would stand out.

Grilled Fish sounds good
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,150
lordsummerisle said:
Counter-suit merely a diversionary/warning tactic I'd have thought.

Don't think it was brought to get more information for Sisu either, as it seems from their questioning that they would have already known about anything "revealed" today.
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Yes they seem to know it but didn't have the proof
 

shmmeee

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,151
spider_ricoh said:
Not sure you an be certain based on what we've seen today, but he is talking about whether those two organisation worked together to force SISU out of ownership of CCFC.

In fairness to SISU (cough cough), I do remember around the time ACL made their application for admin that someone from ACL said "we want to get a new tenant into the stadium" and that was clearly described as a new owner of CCFC. It was in the CT at the time, maybe even have been PWKH
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The thing with this for me is: Joy has said previously she will liquidate. Fisher has said we will liquidate. ACL/CCC/Higgs stand to lose millions so apply for admin to prevent this. Everyone believes the club will have a new owner until Fisher pulls the GS bullshit and we're back to square Northampton.

Regardless of the legality of the Golden Share transfer, it wasn't public knowledge beforehand AFAIK, so it's a fair assumption that ACL/CCC/Higgs thought that Sisu would leave the club (as threatened) if not given the Ricoh.

That's hardly pushing someone out or looking for a new tenant, it's taking someone at their word.
 

spider_ricoh

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,152
shmmeee said:
The thing with this for me is: Joy has said previously she will liquidate. Fisher has said we will liquidate. ACL/CCC/Higgs stand to lose millions so apply for admin to prevent this. Everyone believes the club will have a new owner until Fisher pulls the GS bullshit and we're back to square Northampton.

Regardless of the legality of the Golden Share transfer, it wasn't public knowledge beforehand AFAIK, so it's a fair assumption that ACL/CCC/Higgs thought that Sisu would leave the club (as threatened) if not given the Ricoh.

That's hardly pushing someone out or looking for a new tenant, it's taking someone at their word.
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Disagree - SISU threatened to liquidatae if they didn't get the deal, or at least stop funding the club. ACL didn't agree the deal, effectively calling the SISU bluff. It worked as SISU continued to fund ACL.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,153
shmmeee said:
The thing with this for me is: Joy has said previously she will liquidate. Fisher has said we will liquidate. ACL/CCC/Higgs stand to lose millions so apply for admin to prevent this. Everyone believes the club will have a new owner until Fisher pulls the GS bullshit and we're back to square Northampton.

Regardless of the legality of the Golden Share transfer, it wasn't public knowledge beforehand AFAIK, so it's a fair assumption that ACL/CCC/Higgs thought that Sisu would leave the club (as threatened) if not given the Ricoh.

That's hardly pushing someone out or looking for a new tenant, it's taking someone at their word.
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If they thought their actions would make sisu leave, safe to say that is pushing them out?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,154
lordsummerisle said:
Counter-suit merely a diversionary/warning tactic I'd have thought.

Don't think it was brought to get more information for Sisu either, as it seems from their questioning that they would have already known about anything "revealed" today.
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I think the non-payment was just Sisu being Sisu TBF, rather than any brilliant plot to expose the Council plot. Of course, once it's there they'd take the chance to see what they can get. I'm not 100% sure that the JR is about getting the Ricoh in compensation as much as another stick to beat CCC with in their threat to sue them into submission. The longer this goes on, the less sure I am there is a great master plan on either side and it's all just a great big clusterfuck with two groups with different aims at the heart of it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 2, 2014
  • #1,155
shmmeee said:
The longer this goes on, the less sure I am there is a great master plan on either side and it's all just a great big clusterfuck with two groups with different aims at the heart of it.
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And alas, the football club is probably the sideshow for them all!
 
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