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Head of Recruitment Chris Badlan and Chief Scout Stuart Benthom have left the Club. (1 Viewer)

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Happy_Martian

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #71
Badlan has gone from Head of Recruitment with us to Sporting Director at Blackpool. Looks like a step up from his role with us.
 
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Esoterica

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #72
Do you think he had a list of possible replacements for himself in his database?
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #73
Happy_Martian said:
Badlan has gone from Head of Recruitment with us to Sporting Director at Blackpool. Looks like a step up from his role with us.
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What other sports are they playing?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #74
Happy_Martian said:
Badlan has gone from Head of Recruitment with us to Sporting Director at Blackpool. Looks like a step up from his role with us.
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Yeah not sure why it’s trying to be spun into a positive and signs of an planned shake up.
 

Esoterica

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #75
fernandopartridge said:
What other sports are they playing?
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He's also in charge of the horse racing at the Arcade:
 
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robbiekeane

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #76
shmmeee said:
Surely any database of players is CCFC IP? That’s been standard anywhere I’ve worked. But I seem to recall something about a previous scout taking theirs with them or something?
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think Pressley did one with it

New scouting network to be set up​

Mowbray confirmed today the club is currently without any scouts. The ones employed by Steven Pressley are no longer employed by the club. He told the Diamond Club talk last night that he would look at using the Scout 7 system next season which would see a database utilised.

"There are no scouts and no database of players. Wherever I have been before whenever I have left that database stays with the club."
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Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #77
It wouldn't be hard to set up a system going from the academy leagues to wherever, which would give objective measurements.

Everything else is just subjective.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #78
Philosorapter said:
It wouldn't be hard to set up a system going from the academy leagues to wherever, which would give objective measurements.

Everything else is just subjective.
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That’s basically the data scouting services isn’t it?
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #79
shmmeee said:
That’s basically the data scouting services isn’t it?
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Dunno, never seen one.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #80
Step up for Badlan. I'm sure we'll be aware of his targets from longevity in the role and it's sometimes good to freshen it up with a new direction and a new voice. Hopefully good for us and him.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #81
shmmeee said:
That’s basically the data scouting services isn’t it?
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Here's Warwicks Select in the 4NCL

ECF Rating System
 

Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #82
May I add,

No white (home) advantage or looking after rating inflation/deflation etc in that system.

Just standard stuff, which between us lot, is getting quite old now.

Still a lot more accurate than the FIFA rankings.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 1, 2022
  • #83
Philosorapter said:
It wouldn't be hard to set up a system going from the academy leagues to wherever, which would give objective measurements.

Everything else is just subjective.
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That would be good for identifying targets, though I guess it would mean everyone would identify the same targets using the same metrics.

Still need good old fashioned scouting to see their style or play and if they'd 'fit in', as well as doing some background on personality, behaviour and discipline etc.
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Dec 2, 2022
  • #84
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
That would be good for identifying targets, though I guess it would mean everyone would identify the same targets using the same metrics.

Still need good old fashioned scouting to see their style or play and if they'd 'fit in', as well as doing some background on personality, behaviour and discipline etc.
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Couldn't agree more with what you have said.

And yes, once you have an assumed position of their strength, you can then look at their games.

I guess the scouting is where the expertise in sports lies.

Here's what it looks like in chess.

 
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AiS86

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #85
went well then
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #86
It was a myth he was any good for us

We brought in some utter horse shit on his say so, anyone who thinks he was any good needs sectioning
 
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shepardo01

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #87

Interesting!!!
 
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Telfer85

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #88
Weird one this…there’s some talk on the blackpool forum he may have leaked team news on Friday night. Statement with no “wish all the best for the future” in suggests may not be amicable parting.
 
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edgy

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #89
I'll be watching for the re-emergence of some former forum ITKs ..........
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #90
He could apply to be a weatherman?............................those fuckers also get it wrong 50% of the time and still get paid!
 
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JimmyHillsbeard

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #91
Apparently he referred to the Armfield Club as The Arndale. Went down like a cup of cold sick.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #92
Oh dear.

It won't be long until those same people/wannabe mates of his who were apologists for our poor recruitment are along to defend him.
 
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SBT

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #93
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Oh dear.

It won't be long until those same people/wannabe mates of his who were apologists for our poor recruitment are along to defend him.
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I think most League One clubs would kill for the kind of poor recruitment we had from Badlan over the past five years.

Bear in mind I’m not saying this because I’m a CCFC fan who’s largely enjoyed the last few years; I’m probably only saying it because I want to be Chris Badlan’s best mate.
 
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higgs

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #94
Should we get him back for the summer recruitment drive

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Deleted member 5849

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #95
higgs said:
Should we get him back for the summer recruitment drive

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Just sack the bloke we've got in to replace him for the hell of it?
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #96

Shock as Blackpool's sporting director Chris Badlan exits after just five months

Blackpool have dropped the bombshell news that sporting director Chris Badlan has left the club after barely four months in his role.
www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk
 

Flying Fokker

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #97
JimmyHillsbeard said:
Apparently he referred to the Armfield Club as The Arndale. Went down like a cup of cold sick.
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Rumor has it that he never knew the name of our home stadium
 

Perryccfc

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #98
Don’t get the hate towards him. Yes we had some shockers but he was searching in the bargain basement, for predominately free or loans, bound to have some stinkers. The only players we have paid a significant fee for were Hamer and Gyokeres which shows what he could produce with a proper budget. Sure I remember reading how he tracked Hamer for a couple of years. Obviously knows his stuff.
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #99
Perryccfc said:
Don’t get the hate towards him. Yes we had some shockers but he was searching in the bargain basement, for predominately free or loans, bound to have some stinkers. The only players we have paid a significant fee for were Hamer and Gyokeres which shows what he could produce with a proper budget. Sure I remember reading how he tracked Hamer for a couple of years. Obviously knows his stuff.
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Did he sign Kastaneer, Da Costa and Hillsner as well Perry? Sounds like his an Andy Thorn type of scout to me
 

Perryccfc

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #100
Grendel said:
Did he sign Kastaneer, Da Costa and Hillsner as well Perry? Sounds like his an Andy Thorn type of scout to me
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Read the post again you thick c**t
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #101
SBT said:
I think most League One clubs would kill for the kind of poor recruitment we had from Badlan over the past five years.

Bear in mind I’m not saying this because I’m a CCFC fan who’s largely enjoyed the last few years; I’m probably only saying it because I want to be Chris Badlan’s best mate.
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The point isn't really about the recruitment here because it is irrelevant in terms of my post. We could have signed Neymar, Mbappe, and Haaland, or Biamou, Duffy, and Burge. I mean, the reaction you received on your attempt at trying to be funny qualifies what I'm saying anyway.

For the record we did make a lot of really bad signings under him, but let's not upset anybody any further.
 

Grendel

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #102
Perryccfc said:
Read the post again you thick c**t
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There is no evidence he signed Gyokeres at all Perry - you are just making things up
 

The Philosopher

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #103
This is all circular.

A couple of years ago I made reference to us following the “Brentford Model” - where we buy decent prospects in their early 20’s and develop.

I got called out and referred people to a Dave Boddy podcast on the subject.

Anyhoo

Gyok, O’Hare, Sheaf, Hamer fit the model and are wins in that regard. Walker, Hillsner, Baka, Allasani, not so.

The key is, did Badlan have more wins than failures?
 
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Grendel

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #104
The Philosopher said:
This is all circular.

A couple of years ago I made reference to us following the “Brentford Model” - where we buy decent prospects in their early 20’s and develop.

I got called out and referred people to a Dave Boddy podcast on the subject.

Anyhoo

Gyok, O’Hare, Sheaf, Hamer fit the model and are wins in that regard. Walker, Hillsner, Baka, Allasani, not so.

The key is, did Badlan have more wins than failures?
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The Brentford model which has an owner who gifted them £100m and had a £44m wage bill when promoted
 
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ccfc1234

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  • Apr 4, 2023
  • #105
Badlan made a great signing in Hamer and his European connections in finding him in the Dutch league was admirable. There were however a host of long contract signings he made for the first team that were very below average. He also signed an even larger number of players for the u21s none of whom look like they will make a meaningful contribution to the first team. All the talent in the 21s that looks like it might make an impact Eccles, Burroughs, Howley all had nothing to do with Badlan.

Whatever has gone on at Blackpool seems quite abrupt and that leads me to think either he has recommended a number of players that the managerment team think are a million miles away and therefore he is considered a professional liability. Or something off the field has happened that the club deem amounts to gross misconduct and they are letting him leave rather than sacking him?
 
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