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Have I missed an academy update? (1 Viewer)

  • Thread starter chiefdave
  • Start date Jul 18, 2016
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covmark

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #106
Deleted member 5849 said:
Spin is extreme, it's reasonable to question why he didn't attend.

Of course there may have been an entirely reasonable reason, and I'm sure they'll be arranging another meeting ASAP as a result, eh...
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Ha, you have more faith than me if you believe that NW.

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Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #107
armybike said:
Stand by your beds - Reid has spoken.

Apparently raising the point that Anderson failed to attend the meeting re CCFC Academy is "silly spin" and what should have happen is all the information be put in writing for the attention of CCFC.

Eerrrmmmm......surely the meeting was to discuss the information and try to find a way forward with all the relevant parties present!

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How f**king ridiculous, its CCFC who should put their reasons for failing to attend crucial meetings in writing.
 
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dongonzalos

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #108
Jan do you know who took the call from CA did he say why he couldn't attend.
Did he say the meeting is really important and ask for a reschedule?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #109
covmark said:
Ha, you have more faith than me if you believe that NW.

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I wouldn't say 'faith' is the right word...
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #110
Deleted member 5849 said:
I wouldn't say 'faith' is the right word...
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Let us say you are exhibiting a disturbing lack of cynicism.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #111
Captain Dart said:
Let us say you are exhibiting a disturbing lack of cynicism.
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I believe, then, you may not be reading the tone rightly...
 
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armybike

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #112
Reid has offered clarification around his 'silly spin' comment -


Well when I say offered clarification, he's still trying to justify Anderson's lack of attendance at the meeting having pulled the plug at the eleven hour.
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #113
armybike said:
Reid has offered clarification around his 'silly spin' comment -


Well when I say offered clarification, he's still trying to justify Anderson's lack of attendance at the meeting having pulled the plug at the eleven hour.
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Ridiculous position from him and I tweeted to say so. He's @ me in the reply (@ukorca).

I also got someone who know me from on here tweet me to accuse me of being a Council or Wasps employee, or at least not a CCFC fan. Go and look at the tweets. Conspiracy theories make me laugh.


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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #114
Why do the people who clearly aren't fans of Reid so closely monitor his output? If you don't like him and / or don't think he's a good reporter ignore him!
 
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armybike

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #115
Orca said:
I also got someone who know me from on here tweet me to accuse me of being a Council or Wasps employee, or at least not a CCFC fan. Go and look at the tweets. Conspiracy theories make me laugh.
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Yep, not sure who @Studio2Stereo is on here but he also accused me of being a 'Wasps fan' stating it was obvious from my posts here and on Twitter, but failed to demonstrate the basis of the claim - and then blocked me :joyful:
 
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armybike

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #116
chiefdave said:
Why do the people who clearly aren't fans of Reid so closely monitor his output? If you don't like him and / or don't think he's a good reporter ignore him!
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Because I think he comments and articles are hilarious.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #117
chiefdave said:
Why do the people who clearly aren't fans of Reid so closely monitor his output? If you don't like him and / or don't think he's a good reporter ignore him!
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Because he's the official mouthpiece of the club where else would people get their info?
 

Brylowes

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #118
chiefdave said:
Why do the people who clearly aren't fans of Reid so closely monitor his output? If you don't like him and / or don't think he's a good reporter ignore him!
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Yep, same as the posters on here who love the Telegraph so much.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #119
armybike said:
Yep, not sure who @Studio2Stereo is on here but he also accused me of being a 'Wasps fan' stating it was obvious from my posts here and on Twitter, but failed to demonstrate the basis of the claim - and then blocked me :joyful:
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Extraordinary claim that you are a wasps fan - I can't think what made him come to that conclusion.
 

Orca

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  • Jul 19, 2016
  • #120
chiefdave said:
Why do the people who clearly aren't fans of Reid so closely monitor his output? If you don't like him and / or don't think he's a good reporter ignore him!
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Mainly because I prefer my journalism without any bias or agenda. I've a problem with what Les now reports as it's clear he's moved away from the NUJ code of conduct. He is now using a free paper to promote what I consider to be an agenda to negate SISU's failings by apportioning disproportionate blame to all other parties.


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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #121
nick can you not ban these posters who have clearly joined SBT to peddle coucil agenda?
 

Orca

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #122
covcity4life said:
nick can you not ban these posters who have clearly joined SBT to peddle coucil agenda?
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Or maybe ban people who want to ensure only one point of view is heard?
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #123
Orca said:
Or maybe ban people who want to ensure only one point of view is heard?
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Who are they then?
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #124
Nick said:
Who are they then?
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I've no idea.
@covcity4life asked the question of you first.
I assume he doesn't like some people's point of view so instead of replying and reasoning his case, he's asked you to ban a whole group of people, although he's not been very clear about who. It was nearly a well constructed sentence, but I'm sure you'll work out who to ban.
 

italiahorse

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #125
Nick said:
Who are they then?
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So you avoid challenging CC4life requesting a ban but challenge Orca who responds to him? It's remains clear to me how it works on here.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #126
italiahorse said:
So you avoid challenging CC4life requesting a ban but challenge Orca who responds to him? It's remains clear to me how it works on here.
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It remains clear I just ignore him, the same as the fact I liked the BHSB post stating the fact yesterday

His posts challenge himself, I think that is obvious to anybody that reads them. 99% of the time they don't really need comment to prove him wrong or show him up.

How does it work on here then? Go on, explain!
 

italiahorse

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #127
Nick said:
It remains clear I just ignore him, the same as the fact I liked the BHSB post stating the fact yesterday

His posts challenge himself, I think that is obvious to anybody that reads them. 99% of the time they don't really need comment to prove him wrong or show him up.
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The way I see it is that Orca puts out a reasoned argument for things that are happening and a few on here don't like it preferring to pick up and run with the likes of Les Reids selective writing.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #128
italiahorse said:
The way I see it is that Orca puts out a reasoned argument for things that are happening and a few on here don't like it preferring to pick up and run with the likes of Les Reids selective writing.
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So people disagree with him on a forum, what is the problem?
 

Orca

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #129
Nick said:
So people disagree with him on a forum, what is the problem?
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I don't have a problem with disagreements. I do have a problem with people calling for others to be banned. If it's easier, I'll just ignore @covcity4life too and we can all move on.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #130
italiahorse said:
The way I see it is that Orca puts out a reasoned argument for things that are happening and a few on here don't like it preferring to pick up and run with the likes of Les Reids selective writing.
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As opposed to run with the likes of orcas selective posting?

He clearly hates wasps though - he says it all the time.
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #131
Grendel said:
As opposed to run with the likes of orcas selective posting?

He clearly hates wasps though - he says it all the time.
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Grendel. I've no problem with you thinking whatever you want about me. I notice that you read my thread "Councillors" but didn't reply with your efforts. What have you done to try and protect the Academy I wonder?

I'm being selective at the moment with my language towards you, but other than that, I'll continue to post whatever I feel like. Also, you might have spotted that when I'm proven wrong, I apologise and thank the person who put me right. I expect you'll be unable to do likewise.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #132
Orca said:
Grendel. I've no problem with you thinking whatever you want about me. I notice that you read my thread "Councillors" but didn't reply with your efforts. What have you done to try and protect the Academy I wonder?

I'm being selective at the moment with my language towards you, but other than that, I'll continue to post whatever I feel like. Also, you might have spotted that when I'm proven wrong, I apologise and thank the person who put me right. I expect you'll be unable to do likewise.
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I'm never wrong.
 

Orca

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #133
Grendel said:
I'm never wrong.
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That's up to you to think that. Have you written to your councillors yet?


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Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #134
Whilst we await further news, I've found another email in the online planning portal regarding the Higgs site.


Seems pretty clear to me. Wasps are paying to move the pitch (as we've seen from the other comms), Wasps have offered 3 hours per day at normal commercial rates for the indoor facility. CCFC could hire CSF's facilities again and Paul Breed from CSF wants to have a chat about that. Should we start a new petition to force CA to talk to the other parties? That might have more of an impact that the other 'campaigns' we are seeing.
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #135
Orca said:
Whilst we await further news, I've found another email in the online planning portal regarding the Higgs site.
View attachment 5415

Seems pretty clear to me. Wasps are paying to move the pitch (as we've seen from the other comms), Wasps have offered 3 hours per day at normal commercial rates for the indoor facility. CCFC could hire CSF's facilities again and Paul Breed from CSF wants to have a chat about that. Should we start a new petition to force CA to talk to the other parties? That might have more of an impact that the other 'campaigns' we are seeing.
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Nothing we didn't already know.

They won't be able to use the same CSF facilities as they won't exist - 2 of the remaining 4 pitch's will be exclusively wasps, and wasps will have exclusive access to the 3rd half of the time. When tbr swimming pool arrives the classroom, meeting room, physio room, etc that is currently next to the higgs indoor pitch will likely be replaced.

Wasps should bloody pay for the pitch to be relocated to the standard required, I won't be high fiving them for that, plus it will benefit them in the long run as it will be one of their 2 exclusive training pitches.

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dongonzalos

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #136
stupot07 said:
Nothing we didn't already know.

They won't be able to use the same CSF facilities as they won't exist - 2 of the remaining 4 pitch's will be exclusively wasps, and wasps will have exclusive access to the 3rd half of the time. When tbr swimming pool arrives the classroom, meeting room, physio room, etc that is currently next to the higgs indoor pitch will likely be replaced.

Wasps should bloody pay for the pitch to be relocated to the standard required, I won't be high fiving them for that, plus it will benefit them in the long run as it will be one of their 2 exclusive training pitches.

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Sorry Stu

But we can't keep hiding behind others.

Why should Wasps do anything. If they are investing 7 million into redeveloping it they can do what they like.
If we would like them to do stuff then we should either

1) build our own like we kept saying we would
Or
2) tell them what we would like them to add to their structure and offer a long term rental commitment up to the initial 7 years to justify them doing It for us.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #137
Orca said:
I don't have a problem with disagreements. I do have a problem with people calling for others to be banned. If it's easier, I'll just ignore @covcity4life too and we can all move on.
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good job you wont see this!
 

Orca

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #138
dongonzalos said:
Sorry Stu

But we can't keep hiding behind others.

Why should Wasps do anything. If they are investing 7 million into redeveloping it they can do what they like.
If we would like them to do stuff then we should either

1) build our own like we kept saying we would
Or
2) tell them what we would like them to add to their structure and offer a long term rental commitment up to the initial 7 years to justify them doing It for us.
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Agreed and on point 2, plenty of commentators on this subject think CSF and Wasps should be saying what the proposal should be, but surely the onus is on CCFC to do that?

I'd like to rent a car, and a provider offers me a car to rent and then I could say, ooh, I don't like that car much, I'm not going to bother. Would seem to be a convenient way out for me, yes?
Or, I need a car to these specifications please make one available. Rental provider puts up a car to my spec and I pay my money and drive as it's a perfect match for my requirements.
 

Orca

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  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #139
covcity4life said:
good job you wont see this!
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see what?
 

stupot07

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 20, 2016
  • #140
dongonzalos said:
Sorry Stu

But we can't keep hiding behind others.

Why should Wasps do anything. If they are investing 7 million into redeveloping it they can do what they like..
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Of course they have to move the pitch, their development means the pristine pitch we pay for and have an agreement is going to be closed, and rightly they are paying for it to be relocated so they can crack on with building. That is all I am saying, nothing about long term, just that they shouldn't be back slapped for doing what they should or CSF should do.

There is no room for the academy, wasps, CSF, swimming pool etc to all be on site. If we do manage to keep the academy and use the kicking barn the rest of the academy is likely to have to be delivered from alternative site.

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