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DionDublinsJockstrap · Oct 4, 2020

Hammer red card some observations
1) By the rules it was red card
2) Ask a doctor or a member of the judiciary to place the scything of Dabo, Cooks action, and Hamers action in order of danger Hamers comes third by a long way. Elbow or clenched fist should be the mandatory red card.
3) Clinton Morrisson on Sky reckons that the way Cook sucked Hamer into the slap was “part of the game” Trouble is refs don’t understand the dark arts

steve cooper · Oct 4, 2020

DionDublinsJockstrap said:
Hammer red card some observations
1) By the rules it was red card
2) Ask a doctor or a member of the judiciary to place the scything of Dabo, Cooks action, and Hamers action in order of danger Hamers comes third by a long way. Elbow or clenched fist should be the mandatory red card.
3) Clinton Morrisson on Sky reckons that the way Cook sucked Hamer into the slap was “part of the game” Trouble is refs don’t understand the dark arts

Unfortunately Morrison is right, but people like him are part of the problem. Instead of just saying it's part of the game, they should be condemning it.

stupot07 · Oct 4, 2020

Martial has just been sent off for something pretty much identical to what Hamer did.

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mark82 · Oct 4, 2020

Similar red card in the Man Utd match. Lamela threw an elbow into Martials throat, Martial reacted to it with a tiny tap to Lamela's face. Only Martial sent off. Such a ridiculous rule.

BornSlippySkyBlue · Oct 4, 2020

stupot07 said:
Martial has just been sent off for something pretty much identical to what Hamer did.

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Another ridiculous decision. Lamela should also have been at least booked.

Nick · Oct 4, 2020

Martial literally tapped him.
Lamela rolling around on the floor like he had been hit by Tyson after he put his elbow in Martial's throat.

BornSlippySkyBlue · Oct 4, 2020

Although it is rather amusing watching Man U self-destruct.

mark82 · Oct 4, 2020

Nick said:
Martial literally tapped him.
Lamela rolling around on the floor like he had been hit by Tyson after he put his elbow in Martial's throat.

How VAR didn't either say no red card, or Lamela sent off too I have no idea.

stupot07 · Oct 4, 2020

BornSlippySkyBlue said:
Another ridiculous decision. Lamela should also have been at least booked.

I agree about Lamela, but for the red, that's the rules.

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mark82 · Oct 4, 2020

stupot07 said:
I agree about Lamela, but for the red, that's the rules.

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Think the point is that the rules are stupid rather than refs in either situation made the wrong decision.

BornSlippySkyBlue · Oct 4, 2020

stupot07 said:
I agree about Lamela, but for the red, that's the rules.

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Yeah, badly worded. Appreciate it’s the rules but the rules suck. Lamela booked but missed what for, was it retrospectively for the elbow / forearm thing?

mark82 · Oct 4, 2020

Lamela, like Cook, should also have been sent off.

Nick · Oct 4, 2020

They have VAR but Lamella went unpunished?

cc84cov · Oct 4, 2020

Man Utd are shambolic

BornSlippySkyBlue · Oct 4, 2020

Nick said:
They have VAR but Lamella went unpunished?

He’s been booked but missed what for?

mark82 · Oct 4, 2020

I think what we now all know is violence is fine as long as you keep it below the chin.

BornSlippySkyBlue · Oct 4, 2020

mark82 said:
I think what we now all know is violence is fine as long as you keep it below the chin.

And get the first blow in (first rule of the playground tbf).

rhino1002 · Oct 4, 2020

How did bailly not get sent off for the studs down the back of kanes leg
Looked deliberate to me and far worse than the handbags between martial and lamella

Nick · Oct 4, 2020

Souness going in about the sending off.

Both should have been off, not sure how VAR missed it.

cc84cov · Oct 4, 2020

Just seen McSheffrey’s comments on Hamer,

Doesn’t fancy it out of possession doesn’t track runners and pulls out of tackles Dan Gosling taught him a lesson.

Hamer has been excellent so far wasn’t his greatest night Friday but I’m certain he will learn and grow.

Nick · Oct 4, 2020

cc84cov said:
Just seen McSheffrey’s comments on Hamer,

Doesn’t fancy it out of possession doesn’t track runners and pulls out of tackles Dan Gosling taught him a lesson.

Hamer has been excellent so far wasn’t his greatest night Friday but I’m certain he will learn and grow.

McSheffrey has been bitter about us for a couple of years.

Gosling the player with a couple of hundred Premier League games?

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Oct 4, 2020

mark82 said:
Lamela, like Cook, should also have been sent off.

Unlike our game, they had VAR to get it right. Didn't

fatso · Oct 4, 2020

Mourinho’s team talk, ... Lads, ..... it’s Man Utd!

Magwitch · Oct 4, 2020

mark82 said:
Lamela, like Cook, should also have been sent off.

Ref: should have either gave both players a red, or both yellow or better still both a bollocking

Sky Blue Pete · Oct 4, 2020

SlowerThanPlatt said:
Does anyone have a video? From seeing it once Cook pushed in the chest and Hamer pushed in the face?

Stroked

Sky Blue Pete · Oct 4, 2020

mark82 said:
I think what we now all know is violence is fine as long as you keep it below the chin.

Which is complete bollocks. Violent conduct is violent conduct and the tackle and the push were both red cards

Londonccfcfan · Oct 4, 2020

Jamesimus said:
Yes, but Dan Gosling has 200 odd premier league appearances

Sky Blue Pete said:
Stroked

Carressed

mark_ccfc · Oct 4, 2020

So if the rule is you can't raise your arms could he have got away with a booking if he had punched him in the bollocks?

Sky Blue Pete · Oct 4, 2020

mark_ccfc said:
So if the rule is you can't raise your arms could he have got away with a booking if he had punched him in the bollocks?

Yeah which is the bollox in this crap

higgs · Oct 4, 2020

It was something out of nothing but this day and age your going to get sent off for it he should have known that but get caught up in the heat of the moment plus we were losing 3-1 he probably thought fuck this we aren't coming back I'm off

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lord_garrincha · Oct 5, 2020

Nick said:
McSheffrey has been bitter about us for a couple of years.

This... Was extremely vocal in the media when the (in his mind) expected one-year deal in League 2 never materialised.

Anyone who was at Grimsby home would have seen why he was not on MR's radar... plus the striker he did sign on a free did rather well.

Probably thinks Doyler would do a better job!

KenilworthSkyBlue · Oct 5, 2020

Nick said:
McSheffrey has been bitter about us for a couple of years.

Gosling the player with a couple of hundred Premier League games?

From conversations I've had, I think McSheffrey's issue is with Robins slightly more than with the club. Robins politely told him no after he repeatedly asked to come back (I think it was during the summer of the League Two campaign), and from what I remember I believe there were a few words exchanged between the two. Apparently this stemmed from McSheffrey attempting to give it the big 'I Am' after his offer was respectfully declined, which went down as well as you can probably expect.

shmmeee · Oct 5, 2020

McSheffrey can fuck off.

Nick · Oct 5, 2020

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
From conversations I've had, I think McSheffrey's issue is with Robins slightly more than with the club. Robins politely told him no after he repeatedly asked to come back (I think it was during the summer of the League Two campaign), and from what I remember I believe there were a few words exchanged between the two. Apparently this stemmed from McSheffrey attempting to give it the big 'I Am' after his offer was respectfully declined, which went down as well as you can probably expect.

Look where we are now, you don't get that by doing favours so people can move back home.

Frostie · Oct 5, 2020

KenilworthSkyBlue said:
From conversations I've had, I think McSheffrey's issue is with Robins slightly more than with the club. Robins politely told him no after he repeatedly asked to come back (I think it was during the summer of the League Two campaign), and from what I remember I believe there were a few words exchanged between the two. Apparently this stemmed from McSheffrey attempting to give it the big 'I Am' after his offer was respectfully declined, which went down as well as you can probably expect.

McSheffrey needs to get real, he was atrocious in his second spell.

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