I did. I’m not sure I’d agree Sheafs role is to progress the ball more than Allen’s. It’s entirely data based categorisation. Allen doesn’t progress the ball and when he does he’s not very good at it. Hardly what you want from an AM.
My biggest criticism of Allen is he doesn't get us on the front foot enough where receiving the ball but he is starting to do it more tegularly and he did iit Sturday in te build up to the 2nd goal.
Have a day off for fuck sake
Did Allen shag your mum?
I think it’s more he wants to shag Palmer
Allen has 4 goal contributions in his last 7 matches .. I believe personally Robins picks him because he is disciplined , follows instructions well and works hard
We all know sheaf and hamer are more naturally gifted footballers , but the manager always seems to fit jamie bloody Allen in the starting 11
It's a bit of a perfect storm for Allen currently, in that the players around him very much compliment his style of play. He has 3 main strengths:
1. His pressing out of possession
2. Pulling the opposition out of shape by getting into half spaces
3. Making runs beyond the striker and into the box
Gyokeres suits 3. because he pulls wide a lot and commits the fullback 1 on 1 which leaves the space for Allen to run into.
Our playing style see a lot of either a) countering quickly, which is good for his runs again or b) we ball carry from deep through Hamer and O'Hare which again suits his off the ball movement.
What we don't do is play a huge amount of slow build up possession football through midfield which I think would challenge his technique and physicality.
So in summary, now we've gone back to a variant of the box midfield, together with the other players we have in the side, it is maximising his strengths and minimising his weaknesses.
Have a day off for fuck sake
Did Allen shag your mum?
Fucks I don’t like Allen sake I was not liking Allen. just commenting hate Allen on the graph. I’m still not liking Allen convinced it’s even don’t like Allen him
Who the hell's somepwople?I'm fairy sure ou don't have too many instances of not following instructions and stay in Robins team
If Robins keeps picking people it's because they're doing what he asks. I'm not sure why somepwople can't grasp this.
He has an issue with palmer because other people like him. It's so obvious he's lining him up as a target now hyam has goneOk, now I don’t know what to do. Palmer is class. I’ll leave you both to it.
Who the hell's somepwople?
Ok, now I don’t know what to do. Palmer is class. I’ll leave you both to it.
He has an issue with palmer because other people like him. It's so obvious he's lining him up as a target now hyam has gone
He has an issue with palmer because other people like him. It's so obvious he's lining him up as a target now hyam has gone
This is why despite his limitations he is a much better partner for O'Hare in the box than Palmer, which is a real shame as Palmer has that xfactor. Its almost either O'Hare or Palmer with the other 3. Unless its a team we are going to have lots of ball.It's a bit of a perfect storm for Allen currently, in that the players around him very much compliment his style of play. He has 3 main strengths:
1. His pressing out of possession
2. Pulling the opposition out of shape by getting into half spaces
3. Making runs beyond the striker and into the box
Gyokeres suits 3. because he pulls wide a lot and commits the fullback 1 on 1 which leaves the space for Allen to run into.
Our playing style see a lot of either a) countering quickly, which is good for his runs again or b) we ball carry from deep through Hamer and O'Hare which again suits his off the ball movement.
What we don't do is play a huge amount of slow build up possession football through midfield which I think would challenge his technique and physicality.
So in summary, now we've gone back to a variant of the box midfield, together with the other players we have in the side, it is maximising his strengths and minimising his weaknesses.
Oh dear
I didn't mean for it to get like this mate , il just never get your dislike of Allen , youre still a good guyFucks sake I was just commenting on the graph. I’m still not convinced it’s even him
Have you been in allo allo ?I'm fairy sure ou don't have too many instances of not following instructions and stay in Robins team
If Robins keeps picking people it's because they're doing what he asks. I'm not sure why somepwople can't grasp this.
I didn't mean for it to get like this mate , il just never get your dislike of Allen , youre still a good guy
Not really. We win a game and he posts about hyam.I called exactly this months ago from Grendel. But he’s calmed down a bit lately.
Clint is famous for pissing by ze bonk.Have you been in allo allo ?
But those explanations are just assumptions of what type of player those in each area of the graph would be. I.e. Someone how doesn't make many progressive passes and doesn't complete many of the ones they do is therefore a player not expected to do so. Whereas someone how makes a lot of attempted progressive passes but doesn't complete many is meant to play them but is just a bit shit (which is the area Sheaf falls into)It is , did you read the boxes with the explanations ? I would before the gloating
But those explanations are just assumptions of what type of player those in each area of the graph would be. I.e. Someone how doesn't make many progressive passes and doesn't complete many of the ones they do is therefore a player not expected to do so. Whereas someone how makes a lot of attempted progressive passes but doesn't complete many is meant to play them but is just a bit shit (which is the area Sheaf falls into)
Would you say Sheaf's not very good as that graph hints at? Would you say it's his job to make progressive passes? Or that he's a more defensive midfielder in the team to be doing a lot of tidying up? Would you say that it's Sheaf's job to be more progressive than Allen when they're both playing? Seeing as how Allen has more goals and makes runs into the box I'd say not. If we're playing the box would you expect Sheaf or Allen to be playing further up the field? It might just mean Allen plays very safe passes.
Of course you'd argue if that was the case surely he'd have been dropped, but then by that graph Sheaf should be dropped for not doing what he's on the pitch to do. We've had a very threadbare squad at times leaving few other options.
This isn't having a go at Allen. I think he's doing a decent job and deserves his place in the team. I just don't think that graph can be taking as meaning what you think it does.
This is why despite his limitations he is a much better partner for O'Hare in the box than Palmer, which is a real shame as Palmer has that xfactor. Its almost either O'Hare or Palmer with the other 3. Unless its a team we are going to have lots of ball.
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Not writing it off, they did combine well for that goal, but in that game Vik wasn't playing and Palmer was up front almost as a false 9 with Allen and O'Hare in the box behind him.Let's not be too quick to write off the COH/Palmer partnership.
Early days yet and they combined to score a good goal against Blackpool.
Nice to have these options.
Not writing it off, they did combine well for that goal, but in that game Vik wasn't playing and Palmer was up front almost as a false 9 with Allen and O'Hare in the box behind him.
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A progressive pass is also different depending on what part of the pitch you are in, so is therefore also influenced by role in the team and the team's style of play:But those explanations are just assumptions of what type of player those in each area of the graph would be. I.e. Someone how doesn't make many progressive passes and doesn't complete many of the ones they do is therefore a player not expected to do so. Whereas someone how makes a lot of attempted progressive passes but doesn't complete many is meant to play them but is just a bit shit (which is the area Sheaf falls into)
Would you say Sheaf's not very good as that graph hints at? Would you say it's his job to make progressive passes? Or that he's a more defensive midfielder in the team to be doing a lot of tidying up? Would you say that it's Sheaf's job to be more progressive than Allen when they're both playing? Seeing as how Allen has more goals and makes runs into the box I'd say not. If we're playing the box would you expect Sheaf or Allen to be playing further up the field? It might just mean Allen plays very safe passes.
Of course you'd argue if that was the case surely he'd have been dropped, but then by that graph Sheaf should be dropped for not doing what he's on the pitch to do. We've had a very threadbare squad at times leaving few other options.
This isn't having a go at Allen. I think he's doing a decent job and deserves his place in the team. I just don't think that graph can be taking as meaning what you think it does.
But true though. He was your next target for a while before any of us had seen enough to make a judgement. It’s all there.
Just goes to prove that Allen is too old and needs to be put out to pasture.Gyok-24
Ohare -24
Sheaf-24
Hamer-25
Palmer 26
Allen 27
Is this age the sweet spot for recruitment when replacing?
I think it’s more he wants to shag Palmer
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