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Grendel

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,801
the rumpo kid said:
Doubt they would qualify even for the promotion bonus, mc nally only played one game and twine maybe half a dozen.
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It will be in all player contracts negotiated at the point the contract was signed
 

the rumpo kid

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,802
Oh ! I'm glad you know so much about other teams players contracts I'll consider myself corrected .
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,803
the rumpo kid said:
Doubt they would qualify even for the promotion bonus, mc nally only played one game and twine maybe half a dozen.
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Twine played 14 games
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,804
the rumpo kid said:
Oh ! I'm glad you know so much about other teams players contracts I'll consider myself corrected .
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Pretty standard stuff tbf. I have a mate who moved clubs as a pro and had every bonus written into his contract you could shake a stick at (regardless of if he played or not ) though I'm not sure how the loaned players scheme would work out. Surely McNally would fall into our bonus system.
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,805
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
 
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rexo87

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,806
SBT said:
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
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It's like getting a gift card at Christmas. Pointless. Just give cash so you can spend it on anything

Sent from my SM-G991B using Tapatalk
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,807
fernandopartridge said:
He's on about Portugal not the north of Ireland mate

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alexccfc99 said:
Lisburn Northern Ireland?
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Brain fade on my part there
 

TomRad85

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,808
SBT said:
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
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TBF if we do end up doing some sort of exchange we can fiddle it a bit so Brighton get less of a cut.
 
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,809
SBT said:
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
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Not a chance either would be permanent too
 
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Deity

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,810
SkyBlue_Adam said:
Not a chance either would be permanent too
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Don’t be ridiculous. Coventry won’t sell Vik for £10m plus 2 loans
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,811
SBT said:
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
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You do realise it is possible to understand something but not agree with it?
 
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djr8369

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,812
SBT said:
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
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It’s just something someone suggested on here which has been picked up by the press as far as I can tell. I don’t think it’s a genuine rumour as such.
 

Martin180

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,813
SBT said:
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
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Wouldn't be the worst deal . We need bodies ,and both are decent signings plus it puts some money in the coffers
 
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SeaSeeEffCee

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,814
He’s pretty obviously going to go to Sporting, it’s basically done.
 
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Colin Steins Smile

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,815
The big issue with that deal is that:
1. The scheduling of fee payments. If it's over 5 years that is £2m now.
2. The players coming as a part exchange will cost the club the increased wages from day 1, plus any signing on fees to agents, etc.
Hence the club will be on the wrong end of front end costs, which will restrict any other recruitment fees for other players we may want.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,816
Fee of £15m would be a disaster.
 
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SkyBlue_Adam

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,817
Deity said:
Don’t be ridiculous. Coventry won’t sell Vik for £10m plus 2 loans
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I never said we would accept it. Permanent 'Swaps' are almost unheard of..
 
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SBT

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,818
Martin180 said:
Wouldn't be the worst deal . We need bodies ,and both are decent signings plus it puts some money in the coffers
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Literally no-one has suggested we should give up 2 or £3 million of our transfer budget on another AM this window, but as soon as Burnley show up with a fistful of Disney dollars and the chance to sign a player who people have half-heard of, we start losing our shit.

McNally I can half understand, but to talk about throwing Twine in is just silly - if we need him that much (and we don’t) just get someone to give us a boatload of cash for Gyokeres.
 
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Rugby Sky Blue

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,819
Torquay Sky Blue said:
Pretty standard stuff tbf. I have a mate who moved clubs as a pro and had every bonus written into his contract you could shake a stick at (regardless of if he played or not ) though I'm not sure how the loaned players scheme would work out. Surely McNally would fall into our bonus system.
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Yorkshire SB said:
Really surprising. The bottom half of that league is like non-league here. The players might be a bit better but the stadiums and attendances are so poor.

Surely if a PL side were interested, he wouldn’t go.
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Sporting are a great club though and would probably get to play European football.
 

CDK

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,820
By the sounds of it vik is sold on sporting that could be the sticking point.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,821
CDK said:
By the sounds of it vik is sold on sporting that could be the sticking point.
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It will be if Sporting don’t or won’t pay the asking price which is north of £20million.
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,822
How about Burnely just using McNally &Twine loans as bait to sweeten a deal, reduce the fee by 1-2m and they pay the wages?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,823
Alkhen said:
How about Burnely just using McNally &Twine loans as bait to sweeten a deal, reduce the fee by 1-2m and they pay the wages?
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Interesting idea
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,824
Sky Blue Pete said:
Interesting idea
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Mutually beneficial, neither player is likely going to breakout as a Prem starter anytime soon. Burnley get the man they want and retain a couple of young talented players. They can use them next year if they get relegated or cash in if not
 

CDK

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,825
Like a lot of posters here think this needs to be done this week so it puts focus on a replacement ,we are not going to get a like for like replacement.
How much do we think robins will get to reinvest from Viks fee.
Me think he will get 50% of the fee.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,826
CDK said:
Like a lot of posters here think this needs to be done this week so it puts focus on a replacement ,we are not going to get a like for like replacement.
How much do we think robins will get to reinvest from Viks fee.
Me think he will get 50% of the fee.
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Probably 35-40%.
 
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Rugby Sky Blue

Active Member
  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,827
CovPusb85 said:
Would love twine to be part of the deal but just can’t see him dropping to the championship, he’ll be wanting to prove himself in the premier league for sure.

McNally would definitely come I think if offered.
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Twine would be an amazing signing but unfortunately I have to agree with you about him not wanting to come here.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,828
CovPusb85 said:
Would love twine to be part of the deal but just can’t see him dropping to the championship, he’ll be wanting to prove himself in the premier league for sure.

McNally would definitely come I think if offered.
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He’s barely even proved himself in the Championship.
 
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djr8369

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,829
SeaSeeEffCee said:
He’s barely even proved himself in the Championship.
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Less so than McNally!
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,830
The Hawk said:
And both will likely stay in the championship at better teams than us
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We were play off finalists, if we can show just a little bit of ambition by tying Hamer down to a deal and making some signings I think we are an attractive club to join outside of the relegated teams and a couple of other clubs in the division.
 

Grendel

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,831
SBT said:
McNally + Twine plus ~£10 million is a poor deal for us. We just need the cash ffs, how hard is this for people to understand?
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None of this is happening anyway but if his value really was £20m and you actually managed to get them on loan for the season wages paid if playing and receive say £15m I would look at that as an option. McNally can clearly play at this level and Twine has been highly rated for a while. So you have 2 established loans as opposed to young unknowns and money to build a squad.

We need 5 experienced good loan players this season which we really lacked last.

Its not happening but I would take that sort of deal
 
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AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,832
 

mmttww

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,833
Ccfcisparks said:
Fee of £15m would be a disaster.
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...or the highest fee we've ever received, while in the EFL rather than the EPL, for a player with a year left on his contract.

Don't let facts get in the way of you having a hissy fit, though. Crack on!
 

edgy

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,834
AFCCOVENTRY said:
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This is what we needed.... PL teams bidding. Need West Ham to join the party. Hopefully they shift Rice asap, and get involved.
 
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edgy

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  • Jun 28, 2023
  • #2,835
 
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