Balli001
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So why should we give in and not hold our nerve then?
So why should we give in and not hold our nerve then?Why should Sporting shift? They might know that Gyokeres wants the move and they might suspect that Coventry will want the money to reinvest. They just need to hold their nerve, especially if Gyokeres has agreed terms with them - through his agent.
Maybe Lisbon might move on the price, say pay £20 million over 5 years, instead of £17 million over 3 years. That sort of thing is an option.
The risk to that strategy, I would suggest, is a club like West Ham, who can offer European football and who should be rolling around in Declan Rice money.
The real value is what the buyer eventually pays, not what the seller demandsWhy? The value is the value. If sporting want him that much they would find the extra couple of million
Unless, of course, Lisbon want to keep the price down so they can offer higher wages.
Because the club needs the money, eventually.So why should we give in and not hold our nerve then?
Would still think he'd take PL football over higher wages in Portugal once he see's the terms that could be offered. Got to consider his international future too. Look what it's done for Isak.
Yes, definitely a factor. West Ham can ever offer Euro competition football.
But what would you do? Beaches in Portugal or panoramic views over the Thames mudflats around Dartford?
That grim picture of London you paint certainly hasnt stopped most of Europe's top players from coming has it?
Depends what people want doesn’t it? Maybe he’s planning kids and wants somewhere less crowded. Maybe his missus wants the sun. He does seem to really want to go to Lisbon.
When Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal make a move for Gyokeres, I will agree with youThat grim picture of London you paint certainly hasnt stopped most of Europe's top players from coming has it?
You dont have to play for them to live in "nice" London.When Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal make a move for Gyokeres, I will agree with you
You dont have to play for them to live in "nice" London.
I’m pretty sure she plays for Juventus.Depends what people want doesn’t it? Maybe he’s planning kids and wants somewhere less crowded. Maybe his missus wants the sun. He does seem to really want to go to Lisbon.
Yes. Dream destination would be Italy for him I'm sure. But no apparent interest over there.I’m pretty sure she plays for Juventus.
Dunno. He doesn't seem like a typical footballer. London might have a pull for a lot of people, some might rather be by the sea than buried in people and noise. He'd still be earning a relative fortune.I agree he does currently. Sure he'll change his mind once he see's what West Ham can offer him
Give his agent 5 minutesYes. Dream destination would be Italy for him I'm sure. But no apparent interest over there.
Dunno. He doesn't seem like a typical footballer. London might have a pull for a lot of people, some might rather be by the sea rather than buried in people and noise. He'd still be earning a relative fortune.
Also think he'd be more likely to start regularly, meaning more chance at getting caps for Sweden. He might back himself to get to an elite level via another move, and Sporting might be a better platform for that.
All true. But I think Sporting Lisbon has an appeal that most EPL clubs can’t match.
Not convinced he'd start at any besides Brentford with Toney being suspended. Maybe Wolves. But then, do you pick either of those over Sporting and playing in Europe from day one?I do get the location thing. Who wouldnt want that?
Not sure I agree with starting more often at Sporting over say West Ham, Everton, Wolves or Brentford. He'd be number one striker at all of those clubs in their current states.
Not convinced he'd start at any besides Brentford with Toney being suspended. Maybe Wolves. But then, do you pick either of those over Sporting and playing in Europe from day one?
Not disagreeing with you theoretically but for me, it's about risk appetite at those clubs. Everton have shown they throw money at 'Names' and sort-of-proven quantities (e.g. Maupay). No track record of pulling directly from the EPL or less high profile leagues and giving those players a proper chance. West Ham, will fans of a club that's in Europe be patient with a player from the Championship leading their line? Not convinced. "West Ham are Massive" and all that! Brentford stands out a mile esp. with the Toney situation.He's start at West Ham 100%. Antonio is about done. I know a couple of Hammers fans and they are very pleased to be linked to Vik, saying he'd be the focal point replacing Antonio.
Wolves again direct replacement for Jimenez, who like Antonio is looking like he's fading away.
Everton need to replace Calvert-Lewin, who is made of glass. They always like a powerful forward.
Depends what people want doesn’t it? Maybe he’s planning kids and wants somewhere less crowded. Maybe his missus wants the sun. He does seem to really want to go to Lisbon.
But their ‘drug problem’ and imprisonment policies are way more advanced than ours.Lisbon is just as crowded as London. On top of that it's not a nice place. Having lived in the south Spain and visited a lot of cities in the area including Lisbon. I can hands down say it's the worst city I visited down there. Place is dirty, hot humid and the architecture is falling apart. I'm not keen on London, but would pick it in a heart beat over Lisbon. Only saving grace is the pastel de natta which are delicious
But their ‘drug problem’ and imprisonment policies are way more advanced than ours.
You're referring to a handful of the very central, touristy squares. So it's pretty visible, crowded and safe. Also, none of those drugs are real, by the way. When I lived in London I never spent any time in Leicester Square either - which is a horrible place to be also.Every square you go to in the city you are constantly having people try to sell you lumps of hash. I'm not against it per say but they were very aggressive with it, trying to force it in to my hand
Speaking as someone who has lived for years in both cities, London is considerably less safe (and I'm not saying it's dangerous, but Portugal is paradise by comparison) and Lisbon has great weather most of the year.
I can see Gyokeres being sold on the package - despite not being Champion's League this year, they could easily do it next year because of the general standard in the Portuguese league being so lopsided. They've finished Top 3 in 8 of the last 10 years - Top 2 automatically qualify for Champion's League and I think 3rd can still qualify.
Top 2/3 is mainly between Sporting, Benfica & Porto every year. So it's an OK domestic league to hopefully get in good form and then the prospect of regularly playing some of the better teams in Europe. I can see how that might appeal vs a bottom half Premiership club where he may not get regular football, or face the club imploding / being relegated within a year.
Lisbon is just as crowded as London. On top of that it's not a nice place. Having lived in the south Spain and visited a lot of cities in the area including Lisbon. I can hands down say it's the worst city I visited down there. Place is dirty, hot humid and the architecture is falling apart. I'm not keen on London, but would pick it in a heart beat over Lisbon. Only saving grace is the pastel de natta which are delicious
Just a thought , would we be happy with a couple of their players and a lower fee ?
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