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pusbccfc

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  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #526
fernandopartridge said:
The one glimmer of hope in relation to Gyok is the fact that he's already been at a PL club and suffered from not playing. I get the feeling he felt that he should have been given more of a chance there, especially when you can see Neal Maupay getting a game! I think he likes being the main man here. His own words have suggested similar.
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He knows how good you have to be to play at that level and whether he's ready just yet.
 
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PVA

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  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #527
Evo1883 said:
Problem is imo we have to try and replace with a similar type of player , physical lone striker that can carry the ball ..where the fook we get one from who knows
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Yep going to be very difficult.

I'd have more confidence in a new striker hitting the ground running if they were playing ahead of O'Hare, going to be even more difficult for whoever it is without Cal.
 

TomRad85

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  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #528
Evo1883 said:
Problem is imo we have to try and replace with a similar type of player , physical lone striker that can carry the ball ..where the fook we get one from who knows
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I think what most teams with vision do would be spend the money you'd receive for Vik on 3 or 4 players, making the team better overall. With us though, especially with our ownership situation up in the air, you know we're unlikely to see that money again.

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  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #529
pusbccfc said:
He knows how good you have to be to play at that level and whether he's ready just yet.
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I think this is right. The difference in the quality of defenders is massive, and great though he has been this season it's not clear he would be able to succeed in the Premier league. He has been largely nullified in the last two matches by strong defences, but those in the Premier league are far stronger. If he carries on as he is he may well get there but I think he knows he isn't ready yet.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #530
Evo1883 said:
Problem is imo we have to try and replace with a similar type of player , physical lone striker that can carry the ball ..where the fook we get one from who knows
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I don't think there are any. We would have to get the best we can and adapt how we play.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jan 1, 2023
  • #531
TomRad85 said:
I think what most teams with vision do would be spend the money you'd receive for Vik on 3 or 4 players, making the team better overall. With us though, especially with our ownership situation up in the air, you know we're unlikely to see that money again.

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Yeah can't replace like for like, just have to make the team good enough we don't have to!
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jan 2, 2023
  • #532
Had a couple of mates who support Leeds ask me about Gyok over the last week or so. Apparently their rumor mills are linking him.

They always ask me who he plays like, kind of haves me stumped?

Of course I'll tell them he is like a shite Enoch Showunmi and they should look elsewhere

Best I could think is: imagine if Mark Viduka played less central and drifted from out wide. He is a bit more dribbly but is powerful and has an unusual style where it's not always clear he is in 100% control.

Might be off but I struggle to think of any direct comparisons
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 2, 2023
  • #533
Greggs said:
Got a mate from London who races pigeons, pretty reliable bloke and rather fast too.
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I know him *l* G*rn*t*get
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 2, 2023
  • #534
PVA said:
Simms has a better minutes per goals this season than Gyokeres.

We're not going to get a replacement anywhere near as good as Gyokeres obviously, but Simms could be a decent option
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PVA

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  • Jan 2, 2023
  • #535
fernandopartridge said:
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You were presumably pissed and insulting people again.

But care to expand?
 

Skybluefaz

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  • Jan 2, 2023
  • #536
PVA said:
Simms has a better minutes per goals this season than Gyokeres.

We're not going to get a replacement anywhere near as good as Gyokeres obviously, but Simms could be a decent option
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I was impressed with him at Blackpool, caught some of their play off games on TV when they got promoted and thought he'd be a decent option for us.
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #537
A couple of players at League 1 that stand out to me that can potentially fill in Gyok’s gap somewhat nowhere near as good but we won’t get anyone just as good
Ryan Hardie (Plymouth)
Aaron Collins (Brizzle Rovers)
Victor Adeboyejo (Burton)

Then looking further out afield we have the likes of
Danilo (Feyenoord)
Shankland (hearts)
Miovski (aberdeen)
Maja (Bordeaux)

To be honest Im just praying we dont lose Vik and our Recruitment team are much better than I am and find a suitable replacement when we do lose him.
 

junglej13

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #538
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
A couple of players at League 1 that stand out to me that can potentially fill in Gyok’s gap somewhat nowhere near as good but we won’t get anyone just as good
Ryan Hardie (Plymouth)
Aaron Collins (Brizzle Rovers)
Victor Adeboyejo (Burton)

Then looking further out afield we have the likes of
Danilo (Feyenoord)
Shankland (hearts)
Miovski (aberdeen)
Maja (Bordeaux)

To be honest Im just praying we dont lose Vik and our Recruitment team are much better than I am and find a suitable replacement when we do lose him.
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I wonder whether we might look at Ike Ugbo again when the time comes. Hasn't set the world alight abroad but has the usual ex Chelsea link.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #539
pusbccfc said:

Just seen this video uploaded 2 days ago.

What a player he is. Must be the most unique footballer I've ever seen at Coventry. So powerful and so difficult to get the ball off him. So gangly but feet like Messi.
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Gyok is without doubt a very difficult forward to defend against, especially one on one, but it's pretty easy to predict what he'll do - drift over to the left hand side and try and take the defender on and shoot.

Against BC, near the end the ball was spread out to Bidwell and there was space for him to attack down the left hand side, allowing Gyok the chance to go through the middle. Instead Gyok drifted over to the left, giving Bidwell nowhere to go and no-one attacking the space in the centre.

If he could vary it up a bit, even drifting over to the right at times, even though it would naturally put him on his weaker shooting foot.
 
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Cata

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #540
Alkhen said:
Had a couple of mates who support Leeds ask me about Gyok over the last week or so. Apparently their rumor mills are linking him.

They always ask me who he plays like, kind of haves me stumped?

Of course I'll tell them he is like a shite Enoch Showunmi and they should look elsewhere

Best I could think is: imagine if Mark Viduka played less central and drifted from out wide. He is a bit more dribbly but is powerful and has an unusual style where it's not always clear he is in 100% control.

Might be off but I struggle to think of any direct comparisons
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I think Vik is a lot quicker than Viduka was, and works a lot harder too. Viduka though was a better finisher. Vik would have to change his game in the prem.
 
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Macca

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #541
He’d win a gazillion penalties in the prem
 
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Cranfield Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #542
One thing. And I’m sorry to mention it as I really rate him highly…. His left leg is for standing and running only. The chance against Brizzle the other day on his left was woeful. Now Vik go and score a hat trick of left foot screamers to prove me wrong please!

PUSB
 
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higgs

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #543
PUSB-We_are_going_up said:
A couple of players at League 1 that stand out to me that can potentially fill in Gyok’s gap somewhat nowhere near as good but we won’t get anyone just as good
Ryan Hardie (Plymouth)
Aaron Collins (Brizzle Rovers)
Victor Adeboyejo (Burton)

Then looking further out afield we have the likes of
Danilo (Feyenoord)
Shankland (hearts)
Miovski (aberdeen)
Maja (Bordeaux)

To be honest Im just praying we dont lose Vik and our Recruitment team are much better than I am and find a suitable replacement when we do lose him.
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What recruitment team buddy?

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Covkid1968#

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #544
Forest now being linked… they could pay silly money for a player that at times does avoid passing at all costs. I’d trust Robins to replace wisely if we got a huge chunk of filthy Greek cash
 
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TomS91

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #545
Covkid1968# said:
Forest now being linked… they could pay silly money for a player that at times does avoid passing at all costs. I’d trust Robins to replace wisely if we got a huge chunk of filthy Greek cash
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£25m + Surridge
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Jan 3, 2023
  • #546
higgs said:
What recruitment team buddy?

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The new one thats been instated
 

Alkhen

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #547
TomS91 said:
£25m + Surridge
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Make that 25m + Surridge on a 2yr loan with them covering his wages and I'm in
 
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Mcbean

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #548
Alkhen said:
Make that 25m + Surridge on a 2yr loan with them covering his wages and I'm in
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You drive a hard bargain - but that might be possible
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #549
Mcbean said:
You drive a hard bargain - but that might be possible
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I agree
 
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nunchuckas

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #550
Alkhen said:
Had a couple of mates who support Leeds ask me about Gyok over the last week or so. Apparently their rumor mills are linking him.

They always ask me who he plays like, kind of haves me stumped?

Of course I'll tell them he is like a shite Enoch Showunmi and they should look elsewhere

Best I could think is: imagine if Mark Viduka played less central and drifted from out wide. He is a bit more dribbly but is powerful and has an unusual style where it's not always clear he is in 100% control.

Might be off but I struggle to think of any direct comparisons
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It is hard to compare his style with anyone else, as he is a bit of a unique player. The best comparison I make in my head, and I'm curious to hear what people think as I've never told anyone before, is that he's like a poor man's Drogba... he isn't as intelligent or good at finishing as Drogba, but in terms of his pace, strength, power, and ability to play the lone striker role so effectively in a team that isn't exactly brimming with attacking talent, he's the only other person I can think of.
 
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edgy

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #551
I have a couple of players in my head that he has attributes of.

Adebayor (direct running with the ball), Ibrahimovic (hold up play and strength) & Ndlovu (him or us not quite knowing what he'll do next, but usually succesful in the execution)

Hyberbole obviously but he is pretty unique.
 
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Bertola

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #552
Adebayor is a great shout, and not one I'd previously thought of
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #553
Mcbean said:
You drive a hard bargain - but that might be possible
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Sky Blue Pete said:
I agree
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It's simple. I do it on Football Manager all the time, Mark Robins needs to just ad a second profile under the pseudonym 'Rark Mobins' and take over Forest to conclude the deal
 
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Alkhen

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #554
nunchuckas said:
It is hard to compare his style with anyone else, as he is a bit of a unique player. The best comparison I make in my head, and I'm curious to hear what people think as I've never told anyone before, is that he's like a poor man's Drogba... he isn't as intelligent or good at finishing as Drogba, but in terms of his pace, strength, power, and ability to play the lone striker role so effectively in a team that isn't exactly brimming with attacking talent, he's the only other person I can think of.
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I can see that sort of, as a package he offers the same attributes. Drogba was way cleaner technically. Love Vik but he does seem to bobble them in quite often (although this season he has scored some belters), does scare me taking a penalty.
 
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olderskyblue

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #555
Alkhen said:
Had a couple of mates who support Leeds ask me about Gyok over the last week or so. Apparently their rumor mills are linking him.

They always ask me who he plays like, kind of haves me stumped?

Of course I'll tell them he is like a shite Enoch Showunmi and they should look elsewhere

Best I could think is: imagine if Mark Viduka played less central and drifted from out wide. He is a bit more dribbly but is powerful and has an unusual style where it's not always clear he is in 100% control.

Might be off but I struggle to think of any direct comparisons
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Tore Andre Flo?
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #556
In the event we lose Vik, I'd go for Adebayo at Luton. Always terrorised us
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #557
Lets be honest, Robins saying Viks going nowhere means fuck all

Anyone comes in with silly money, 15 Million plus, hes gone and we would be stupid not to accept
 
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Offhegoes

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #558
Cata said:
I think Vik is a lot quicker than Viduka was, and works a lot harder too. Viduka though was a better finisher. Vik would have to change his game in the prem.
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Vik, love him as I do, rarely (if ever) plays a pass when he's anywhere near the box. Reminds me of Huckerby in a way, totally unique, gets the ball and drives at goal. His link up play, and heading from crosses is almost non-existent, and generally you would expect that to be half decent with a lone front man.
The step up to the Premier League is a big one, and if he goes to Leeds or Everton and is playing against the best defenders in the world, his tactic of taking on 3-4 players won't work as well.
 
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TomS91

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #559
Reminds me of Nunez with the combination of unpredictability and power.
 

Cata

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  • Jan 4, 2023
  • #560
TomS91 said:
Reminds me of Nunez with the combination of unpredictability and power.
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similar value do you reckon?
 
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