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  • Start date Nov 16, 2023
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Martin180

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #211
no_loyalty said:
Aren’t most deals structured where original selling club receives a set % of any future deals?
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I think it is only a percentage of any profit made , so if Vik was to go for £20 million again we'd get nothing
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #212
robbiekeane said:
Weren’t you a teacher?
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Correct but if that is literally how it’s written, you could see Sporting using the literal interpretation to save some cash.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #213
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Correct but if that is literally how it’s written, you could see Sporting using the literal interpretation to save some cash.
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The literal interpretation of reducing 15% by 10% is 13.5%. The correct wording for what you are saying would be 10 percentage points.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #214
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Correct but if that is literally how it’s written, you could see Sporting using the literal interpretation to save some cash.
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Thankfully I think contract law is a bit more precise than that.
 

robbiekeane

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #215
shmmeee said:
The literal interpretation of reducing 15% by 10% is 13.5%. The correct wording for what you are saying would be 10 percentage points.
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Correct
 
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Speedies_Chips

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #216
Just scored again. Stick another 10 million on!
 
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Legia Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #217
Be nice if they draw an English club next. If he plays well against an English club in Europe then it will help any sell on value.
 

mrtrench

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #218
A sell on for a 400% profit after six months is for the birds, surely? He's playing in a league no better than the championship now. If top teams didn't want him six months ago, why would they pay so much more now?

This has to be agent talk and clickbait for websites.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #219
mrtrench said:
A sell on for a 400% profit after six months is for the birds, surely? He's playing in a league no better than the championship now. If top teams didn't want him six months ago, why would they pay so much more now?

This has to be agent talk and clickbait for websites.
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It's profile though. A bigger club, doing it in Europe, and becoming one of the main men for Sweden too.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 16, 2023
  • #220
shmmeee said:
The literal interpretation of reducing 15% by 10% is 13.5%. The correct wording for what you are saying would be 10 percentage points.
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But are the Portuguese aware of these nuances in English?
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #221
Baggio hit the worst pen ever in 94. It can happen to anyone. Shit the fuck up and move on now
 

covcity4life

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #222
Oh shit I just posted and I'm on page 3 of 7. Maybe I should let it go lol
 

robbiekeane

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #223
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But are the Portuguese aware of these nuances in English?
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It’s not a nuance it’s just simple maths. Portuguese know maths. Any of these deals and anyone involved will have lawyers coming out of their arse anyway
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #224
robbiekeane said:
It’s not a nuance it’s just simple maths. Portuguese know maths. Any of these deals and anyone involved will have lawyers coming out of their arse anyway
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Based on our track record with medicals and translators, bet we just waved it in front of someone at Citizens Advice
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #225
robbiekeane said:
It’s not a nuance it’s just simple maths. Portuguese know maths. Any of these deals and anyone involved will have lawyers coming out of their arse anyway
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The nuance is in the potential understanding of the meaning of language, not the maths
 

robbiekeane

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #226
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
The nuance is in the potential understanding of the meaning of language, not the maths
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It’s

15% - (0.10 x 15%) = 13.5%

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15% - 10% = 5%


There’s no nuance of language to be interpreted.…it’ll be clearly contracted, they are luckily not relying on the 5th hand regurgitation of a forum poster
 
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steve cooper

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #227
As far as I can tell from interpreting what I have read on the internet, is its not a reduction at all but a series of payments once targets are met, which will then be taken into consideration if he is sold, by up to 10%. So if he reaches 25 goals this season it's reported we will receive 1m euros, but that amount will eventually be deducted from any sell on money.
does anyone else see it this way?

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So if he gets sold we will still receive the 15% or whatever the figure is, but we might already have received some of it due to targets met. Otherwise the wording makes no sense.
 
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itsabuzzard

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #228
robbiekeane said:
It’s

15% - (0.10 x 15%) = 13.5%

vs

15% - 10% = 5%


There’s no nuance of language to be interpreted.…it’ll be clearly contracted, they are luckily not relying on the 5th hand regurgitation of a forum poster
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This, in spades. There is only one way to calculate this. It's a common mistake to conflate percentages with percentage points; they are very different things. Nuance has no place in maths.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #229
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
The nuance is in the potential understanding of the meaning of language, not the maths
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Are you seriously saying the club’s going to try and persuade Sporting to pay us millions of pounds off the back of some “He’s 28 until he’s 29” shenanigans?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #230
SBT said:
Are you seriously saying the club’s going to try and persuade Sporting to pay us millions of pounds off the back of some “He’s 28 until he’s 29” shenanigans?
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No, but I've heard of people trying to start legal proceedings on more spurious grounds. So many contract lawl cases are people arguing the toss over interpretation and wording.

For what it's worth, for me it would mean it could drop to 13.5%, but that doesn't mean one side or the other wouldn't argue differently to gain a bit of cash.
 

itsabuzzard

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #231
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
No, but I've heard of people trying to start legal proceedings on more spurious grounds. So many contract lawl cases are people arguing the toss over interpretation and wording.

For what it's worth, for me it would mean it could drop to 13.5%, but that doesn't mean one side or the other wouldn't argue differently to gain a bit of cash.
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They'd be laughed out of court, not that it would get that far.
 

MalcSB

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #232
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
No, but I've heard of people trying to start legal proceedings on more spurious grounds. So many contract lawl cases are people arguing the toss over interpretation and wording.

For what it's worth, for me it would mean it could drop to 13.5%, but that doesn't mean one side or the other wouldn't argue differently to gain a bit of cash.
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Coventry City FC. Spurious legals. Surely not?
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #233
Just saw him score a typical Vik goal for Sporting L v Porto.
 
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rexo87

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #234
He’s tearing Pepe apart


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ccfc922

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #235
All the arrogant Prem "fans" doing the whole "who?" bollocks on Twitter.

Not saying he can necessarily do it at a top 6 club, but was 100% worth the gamble for £20m. Now they're going to have to pay 5x to find out
 
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Winny the Bish

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #236
Might as well start spending the £12.95m we'd get from his sell-on now.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #237
ccfc922 said:
All the arrogant Prem "fans" doing the whole "who?" bollocks on Twitter.

Not saying he can necessarily do it at a top 6 club, but was 100% worth the gamble for £20m. Now they're going to have to pay 5x to find out
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Well TBF it would have had to be £30 +m in that scenario had he not said where he wanted to go.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #238
The bloke is an utter freak. I have no doubt he’d do the same playing for Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal
 
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ccfc922

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #239
Goal number 2.
 

ccfc922

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #240
ccfc922 said:
Goal number 2.
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Wtf was that disallowed for? Only saw the goal on bet365
 
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ptr

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #241
It’s honestly almost certain that he will play in the premier league. Don’t think it will be Jan but won’t be long.

Surely Chelsea will offer him a 16 year deal like they do everyone else.
 

False9

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #242
We all knew how good he was, it's amazing that one of the bigger clubs didn't take a chance.
 
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Gleneagles65

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #243
In to double figures now after 14 matches, some big club could well make a move in January.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #244
rexo87 said:
He’s tearing Pepe apart


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Pepe doing his usual dark arts range of shithousery. Vik has a fine 2 nd goal disallowed on a dubious VAR review in the build up to the goal.
 

Nuskyblue

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  • Dec 18, 2023
  • #245
Gleneagles65 said:
In to double figures now after 14 matches, some big club could well make a move in January.
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16 in 20
 
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