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Gyokeres 25 mill + surely!! (1 Viewer)

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hamil99

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  • May 5, 2023
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If Pedro is going for nearly £30 million and only scored 11 goals this season, what's Gyro worth? I know he's 3 years younger but Gyros ability is way ahead of his. We've got to be holding out of that price tag, at least!! If we have to sell him.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65502319
 
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skyblueeyesrevisited

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  • May 5, 2023
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Yes yes and yes
 
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Greggs

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  • May 6, 2023
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Doug will be swimming in champagne and tits
 
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Nuskyblue

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  • May 6, 2023
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Greggs said:
Doug will be swimming in champagne and tits
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More champagne and bigger, perkier tits**
 
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Mild-Mannered Janitor

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  • May 6, 2023
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If the rumours a few weeks back are true on contract extension then they would have included a buyout clause, doubt it will have been more than £25m do you? No new agent would want to price out a move but find a good value for player but facilitate the move
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 6, 2023
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Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
If the rumours a few weeks back are true on contract extension then they would have included a buyout clause, doubt it will have been more than £25m do you? No new agent would want to price out a move but find a good value for player but facilitate the move
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£30m?? On one hand he really is only worth what a club is willing to pay isn’t he?
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • May 6, 2023
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One year left on his contract means he is worth nowhere near £30 million.

The fact that he misses so many decent chances will also knock his value down slightly As in the Premier League you get less chances and have to put them away.

£20 million absolute tops.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 6, 2023
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Kilclines curly mullet said:
One year left on his contract means he is worth nowhere near £30 million.

The fact that he misses so many decent chances will also knock his value down slightly As in the Premier League you get less chances and have to put them away.

£20 million absolute tops.
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There’s a common theme with all top scorers! They score and miss loads
 
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Frostie

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  • May 6, 2023
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I think looking at João Pedro for a comparison is a bit pointless. Completely different types of players & completely different circumstances in terms of age, contract situation etc.
 
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Sbarcher

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  • May 6, 2023
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As I have mentioned before Vic is not a conventional no. 9 So he wouldn’t suit many sides. He can play anywhere across 7 to 11. Funnily enough I think the side most suitable for him would be Brighton!
 
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hamil99

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  • May 6, 2023
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Mild-Mannered Janitor said:
If the rumours a few weeks back are true on contract extension then they would have included a buyout clause, doubt it will have been more than £25m do you? No new agent would want to price out a move but find a good value for player but facilitate the move
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I'd say 30 for a buyout clause would be about right. Very much doubt it would be any higher.

30m for Pedro is a joke though, Watford must be laughing all the way to the bank. I honestly don't think he's half the player Gyro is, I know he's a different type of striker, but a striker none the less. And his goals and assists are no where near Gyros!!
 
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hamil99

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  • May 6, 2023
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Sbarcher said:
As I have mentioned before Vic is not a conventional no. 9 So he wouldn’t suit many sides. He can play anywhere across 7 to 11. Funnily enough I think the side most suitable for him would be Brighton!
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I think Crystal Palace with Eze and Olise supporting him he'd be devastating.

I have to disagree with him not suiting many sides. Him being a complete forward, I think he would slot into most teams, might take him 6 months to get up to speed, but then he'd be banging the goals in.
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

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  • May 6, 2023
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Different types of players but the price is surely based on expected value to the buyer. We’re quite good at marking down Vik’s price based on missed chances, length of contract remaining etc.. If João Pedro brings £30m of value to Brighton what would Vik bring ? On that basis we would be getting a squad-changing price. I want him to stay but the numbers are starting to look very persuasive. On the other hand if we go up is his value to us then higher that the money we would receive ?
 
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stupot07

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  • May 6, 2023
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I've always said the benchmark for Gyokeres fee should be north of what Ollie Watkins went for. He had 2 ok seasons and 1 good one. Gyokeres has beasted the championship 2 seasons in a row and has far more to his game.

Watkins went for £33m inc. add ons. Anything less than that would be underselling him.

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slowpoke

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  • May 6, 2023
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stupot07 said:
I've always said the benchmark for Gyokeres fee should be Ollie Watkins. He had 2 meh seasons and 1 good one. Gyokeres has beasted the championship 2 seasons in a row and has far more to his game.

Watkins went for £33m inc. add ona.

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Then that’s the benchmark, why not.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • May 6, 2023
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Greggs said:
Doug will be swimming in champagne and tits
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Im sure there’s a new song in that
 
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  • May 6, 2023
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Theonlywayisskyblue said:
Different types of players but the price is surely based on expected value to the buyer. We’re quite good at marking down Vik’s price based on missed chances, length of contract remaining etc.. If João Pedro brings £30m of value to Brighton what would Vik bring ? On that basis we would be getting a squad-changing price. I want him to stay but the numbers are starting to look very persuasive. On the other hand if we go up is his value to us then higher that the money we would receive ?
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I think he's gone past the point where we keep him even if we do go up, just we've got a bit stronger hand to reject offers if we do go up.
 
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Hobo

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  • May 6, 2023
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It will need to be because I suspect a good chunk will be going south to Brighton?
 

Boosh

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  • May 6, 2023
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I hope we get 20 plus and ideally he’d go abroad. Rangers would be ideal tbh if they could afford it.
 
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Hobo

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  • May 6, 2023
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Deleted member 5849 said:
I think he's gone past the point where we keep him even if we do go up, just we've got a bit stronger hand to reject offers if we do go up.
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Even if we go up and he stays he is in last year of his contract. So I think we need to cash in. Unless we get promoted and he immediately signs a 2 or 3 year deal?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • May 6, 2023
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hamil99 said:
I'd say 30 for a buyout clause would be about right. Very much doubt it would be any higher.

30m for Pedro is a joke though, Watford must be laughing all the way to the bank. I honestly don't think he's half the player Gyro is, I know he's a different type of striker, but a striker none the less. And his goals and assists are no where near Gyros!!
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Gyros are fucking tasty but probably not worth £30 million each and also probably won’t score 20 goals a season.
 
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Gint11

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  • May 6, 2023
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Min £20M but likely to be around £18M I reckon
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • May 6, 2023
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Add ons will be important in case he kicks on.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • May 6, 2023
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Kilclines curly mullet said:
One year left on his contract means he is worth nowhere near £30 million.

The fact that he misses so many decent chances will also knock his value down slightly As in the Premier League you get less chances and have to put them away.

£20 million absolute tops.
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If Pedro can fetch £30m, there is no reason Vik can't be valued higher. Both are regarded as strikers but Vik's general output (not just goals) is higher. And remember, Vik is also a proven International goal scorer now. Pedro hasn't made any international appearances for any country.

I put my thoughts and reasons yesterday here and here over in the Championship thread.
 
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Terry_dactyl

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  • May 6, 2023
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Gyros are fucking tasty but probably not worth £30 million each and also probably won’t score 20 goals a season.
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You think they’d go for a PITTAnce?
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • May 6, 2023
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Terry_dactyl said:
You think they’d go for a PITTAnce?
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I donner wanna make a comment about that awful pun
 
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slowpoke

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  • May 6, 2023
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Boosh said:
I hope we get 20 plus and ideally he’d go abroad. Rangers would be ideal tbh if they could afford it.
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Rangers !! Are you for real ?
If that’s the case he might as well go to the U.S and join Mickey Mouse.
 
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Boosh

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  • May 6, 2023
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Pedro isn’t really a striker and is only 21. His value cannot be compared to Vik
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • May 6, 2023
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Boosh said:
Pedro isn’t really a striker and is only 21. His value cannot be compared to Vik
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Course it can
It’s like selling a house
The prices of others in a similar place are in line with those previously sold
 
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no_loyalty

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  • May 6, 2023
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hamil99 said:
but Gyros


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65502319
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I love a bit of Gyros with chilli sauce and salad .
 
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Kilclines curly mullet

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  • May 6, 2023
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Happy_Martian said:
If Pedro can fetch £30m, there is no reason Vik can't be valued higher. Both are regarded as strikers but Vik's general output (not just goals) is higher. And remember, Vik is also a proven International goal scorer now. Pedro hasn't made any international appearances for any country.

I put my thoughts and reasons yesterday here and here over in the Championship thread
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Totally respect your thoughts and opinions.

There are so many factors to take into consideration

To be £25/£30 million
*Finish more one on ones
*Improve in the air and be a more direct threat from corners
*An understanding that it’s ok to score a scrappy goal
*Better finishing under pressure
*Continue to bully defenders
*Improve decision making in terms of awareness (to be fair this has become better)

All of which could and probably will improve over time

Remember also that Gykores has the whole team paying / suited to his style. To get that elsewhere would be tricky, especially in the Prem

Reasons why I think £20 million tops
*12 months left on his contract
*Doesn’t score enough (yes I know that sounds stupid) compared to chances created
*Unproven in the Prem

Yes, of course we can compare to others such as Watkins etc but money was silly a few years ago
 
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Old Warwickshire lad

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  • May 6, 2023
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Well if Middlesbrough go up, they think they can get him for £6 to £8 M
 
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Greggs

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  • May 6, 2023
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Boosh said:
Pedro isn’t really a striker and is only 21. His value cannot be compared to Vik
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He's superb, captain too at 21.
 
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Happy_Martian

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  • May 6, 2023
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Kilclines curly mullet said:
Totally respect your thoughts and opinions.

There are so many factors to take into consideration

To be £25/£30 million
*Finish more one on ones
*Improve in the air and be a more direct threat from corners
*An understanding that it’s ok to score a scrappy goal
*Better finishing under pressure
*Continue to bully defenders
*Improve decision making in terms of awareness (to be fair this has become better)

All of which could and probably will improve over time

Remember also that Gykores has the whole team paying / suited to his style. To get that elsewhere would be tricky, especially in the Prem

Reasons why I think £20 million tops
*12 months left on his contract
*Doesn’t score enough (yes I know that sounds stupid) compared to chances created
*Unproven in the Prem

Yes, of course we can compare to others such as Watkins etc but money was silly a few years ago
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All your points are sentient but the context was comparing him to Joao Pedro who plays in the same role (striker/winger) and has just been valued at this price. While Vik can certainly improve in the areas you've listed (I'd even add more awareness of teammates in dangerous positions), his stats this season are on an equal or significantly higher than Pedro. And as I had mentioned, he now has full caps at International level so this may/may not counter the lack of Prem experience, something Joao Pedro also is limited on. He's played 1665 minutes ( sounds a lot but only equates to 18.5ish full games) in the Prem for Watford over a period of 39 games in two seasons.

I know, it's a debate that will run and run, football is all about opinions . Personally, if we ultimately have to sell Vik for whatever reason, I think we have to put his value in excess of Pedro's.
 
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lordy_87

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  • May 6, 2023
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Boosh said:
I hope we get 20 plus and ideally he’d go abroad. Rangers would be ideal tbh if they could afford it.
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Why would he go there there's several prem teams after him who could pay him more and allow him to play at a better level, not to mention teams from other, better European leagues who would take him.
 
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