It looked to me that his signal to the goalkeeper was just to alert him that the ball was being played back to him. Otherwise why didn't the keeper come to the ball.I thought it was harsh on grimsby for the free kick. He clearly points at the goal keeper to take the free kick and then passes it back to him.
It was laziness and over confidence but yes it was pretty clear what he was trying to do.
Yep. Agree.It looked to me that his signal to the goalkeeper was just to alert him that the ball was being played back to him. Otherwise why didn't the keeper come to the ball.
Yep.
Cock up. How did we cheat can I ask?
If incorrect it is a officials error. How did we cheat?
Yep. Agree.
Whatever conclusion you come to it most certainly is NOT clear cut.
Eakin alluded in the commentary that he thought the Grimsby team and management approached our bench to possibly ask for us to donate a goal back at the other end after the incident, but like I say, if Clarke was merely giving it to the keeper to take the kick it most definitely is not crystal clear in that clip.
I went to a pre-season friendly at East End Park a few years ago... Lets just say it was Dunfermline v West Ham and Geoff Hurst scored a hat-trick. Bobby Moore came in for some fairly robust abuse too.I went to Dunfermline for a pre-season friendly when toss-pot Coleman was in charge and we were really shit. It seemed to be a well run club with a great emphasis on attracting younger fans, if we lived close I would have got my son involved. They seem to have fallen on bad times recently and hopefully those days are behind them
But on the other threads......To be fair, on their thread about the goal no-one has said we cheated. In fact, the majority say that the goal should stand.
But on the other threads......
We have been accused of playing dirty, diving, rolling around for no reason and more. Some have said we were shit and we think we are better than we are. Quite funny at times.
Before the game I said Slade never has a plan B and his plan A doesn't work for half the time. Got a lot of stick for it. Said our defence and midfield is quite solid so they would end up playing the high ball. Got a lot of stick for that too. After the game they said about having a crap plan of the long ball to a short player. Playing a lone striker at home. I pointed it out that they disagreed with me before the game but it went like I said. They disagreed with me again :smuggrin:
Oh the fun of trying to have a debate with people that can't remember what they said 10 minutes previously.
Mr Astute and Mrs Not Astute in our household.Welcome to the world of Mr. and Mrs. Otis.
Oh the fun of trying to have a debate with people that can't remember what they said 10 minutes previously.
But on the other threads......
We have been accused of playing dirty, diving, rolling around for no reason and more. Some have said we were shit and we think we are better than we are. Quite funny at times.
Before the game I said Slade never has a plan B and his plan A doesn't work for half the time. Got a lot of stick for it. Said our defence and midfield is quite solid so they would end up playing the high ball. Got a lot of stick for that too. After the game they said about having a crap plan of the long ball to a short player. Playing a lone striker at home. I pointed it out that they disagreed with me before the game but it went like I said. They disagreed with me again :smuggrin:
Oh the fun of trying to have a debate with people that can't remember what they said 10 minutes previously.
Did any of you see what Eakin alluded to? He said one of their players stamped on Jodi Jones.I certainly didn't see any rolling around, and they took one of our players out through on goal and just about to score twice with no penalty. The way they kept hacking away at Jones, particularly first half, with little punishment was awful too. Could easily have been injured. If anyone's tactics were slightly underhand it was there's. I think we'll get a lot of it this year.
Did any if you see what Eakin alluded to? He said one of their players stamped on Jodi Jones.
If you look at the photos on the telegraph player ratings web page Liam Kelly clearly has blood coming through his sock on his ankle, both Notts and Grimsby have tried kicking us off the park but for a change, we're better at it.I certainly didn't see any rolling around, and they took one of our players out through on goal and just about to score twice with no penalty. The way they kept hacking away at Jones, particularly first half, with little punishment was awful too. Could easily have been injured. If anyone's tactics were slightly underhand it was there's. I think we'll get a lot of it this year.
Was that after their player got sent off?If you look at the photos on the telegraph player ratings web page Liam Kelly clearly has blood coming through his sock on his ankle, both Notts and Grimsby have tried kicking us off the park but for a change, we're better at it.
Mr Astute and Mrs Not Astute in our household.
I don't know at what point he picked it up. Could have been from that second yellow card challengeWas that after their player got sent off?
I bet Mrs Otis and Mrs Astute don't read this thread...or you two are in the doghouse!Mr Astute and Mrs Not Astute in our household.
I certainly didn't see any rolling around, and they took one of our players out through on goal and just about to score twice with no penalty. The way they kept hacking away at Jones, particularly first half, with little punishment was awful too. Could easily have been injured. If anyone's tactics were slightly underhand it was there's. I think we'll get a lot of it this year.
Yeah Doyle slowed the game down. Then again their players caused 7 minutes of added time.Doyle did roll around at times, even holding head once when it wasn't that bad a collision. And kelly did the same so I'll give them that
But it's one of them things in football; hate it when it's against you but love it when it's your players getting away with it
No problem here. She wouldn't have married me if she didn't have a SOH. And it is also true. My wife is very intelligent and thick at the same time.I bet Mrs Otis and Mrs Astute don't read this thread...or you two are in the doghouse!
Unless you mean they are always right?
Doyle did roll around at times, even holding head once when it wasn't that bad a collision. And kelly did the same so I'll give them that
But it's one of them things in football; hate it when it's against you but love it when it's your players getting away with it
Good point. I think its pretty conclusive that the keeper wasn't expecting to take the free kick, whatever Clarke's intention was.With our first goal, I had no idea what was happening at the time I looked up to see McNulty rounding the keeper...
Having seen the replay it more points to the keeper. His response is to challenge for the ball says the ball has become active and puts to bed the theory Clarke was moving the position of the ball to take the free kick. If he'd of stood with his arms up saying what's McNulty doing ref then they would of had grounds to appeal but the keepers response was the balls active.
Anyway a better 2nd half performance with that luck to shift us on our way to give us the momentum to take the game.
Great win, great following!
Anyone seen footage of the 'stonewall' Vincenti penalty incident?
If so, does it confirm everyone's first impression?
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