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Greg Clarke admits he doesn't know if Sisu will build stadium (1 Viewer)

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fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #36
The last paragraph is the pertinent bit. Forget the mud slinging and get on with it. Then senior management from both sides can tender their resignation over this debacle.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #37
hackneyfox said:
Thank fuck, some common sense.

Hysterical rubbish about Clark and the FL, I read both pieces, isn't he agreeing with all of you that both sides are acting like cunts and you've ben shafted. You all know that they are both out to screw each other now so an agreement seem impossible until someone new takes over acl or sisu.

Crap about him not caring because he's a Leicester fan is just that, it would only apply if I were in his position.
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He has muddied the waters somewhat by passing the groundshare and giving SISU back the golden share. He pulled out the stops to prevent Chainrai from getting another look in at Portsmouth, why did he just pass the buck here?
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #38
fernandopartridge said:
The last paragraph is the pertinent bit. Forget the mud slinging and get on with it. Then senior management from both sides can tender their resignation over this debacle.
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Heres the rub I dont want resignations I want Sisu out. There was no need whatsoever for this shit you can all try to aportion blame all you like but who by taking us to Northampton is destroying CCFC
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #39
hackneyfox said:
Thank fuck, some common sense.

Hysterical rubbish about Clark and the FL, I read both pieces, isn't he agreeing with all of you that both sides are acting like cunts and you've ben shafted. You all know that they are both out to screw each other now so an agreement seem impossible until someone new takes over acl or sisu.

Crap about him not caring because he's a Leicester fan is just that, it would only apply if I were in his position.
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But the point is we've been shafted by the football league. I'm not saying he's done it because he's a Leicester fan but the league have ignored an increasing number of their own rules. They have allowed SISU to move the club against the fans wishes, have issued the golden share back to SISU and have absolutely no idea if SISU will ever move the club back. Saying it will be OK when one side gives up is a joke and shows how little understanding he has of the situation.

2 very simple facts:
1) if the FL had not authorised the ground share we would not be playing at Northampton
2) if the FL had not handed back the golden share to a company who are to all intents and purposes the same company who got is into this mess we would not be playing in Northampton

The FL has been highly complicit in allowing this situation and despite what he claims they certainly do have it within their power to stop it. The fact that they choose not to raises the question as to why they choose not to. My belief is the FL are at fault for allowing players to be moved from Ltd to Holdings and therefore separated from the share and / or they are scared of the legal threats SISU have made.
 
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skyblu3sk

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #40
hackneyfox said:
Thank fuck, some common sense.

Hysterical rubbish about Clark and the FL, I read both pieces, isn't he agreeing with all of you that both sides are acting like cunts and you've ben shafted. You all know that they are both out to screw each other now so an agreement seem impossible until someone new takes over acl or sisu.

Crap about him not caring because he's a Leicester fan is just that, it would only apply if I were in his position.
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You still obsessed? Clark and the FL are a bunch of spineless peckers that have buried our club. As far as I am concerned there isn't a governing body.
 

hackneyfox

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #41
If the fl refuse you permission and you don't return to The Ricoh then you would be thrown out of the league for not being to complete fixture.
If Sisu agreed to you playing at the ricoh then their whole gameplay of forcing acl into financial difficulties to gain control of the ground fails.
Clark is obviously aware of this, for you to stay in the league I don't see what else they could do.

It's most likely Northampton or non league, both sides would sooner see you go under than give in now.
 

edgy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #42
Had the FL not allowed the ground share there was a very distinct possibility that CCFC would be thrown out of the league. The end.

But reading some of the bonkers ideas on here, that would be welcomed.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #43
hackneyfox said:
If the fl refuse you permission and you don't return to The Ricoh then you would be thrown out of the league for not being to complete fixture.
If Sisu agreed to you playing at the ricoh then their whole gameplay of forcing acl into financial difficulties to gain control of the ground fails.
Clark is obviously aware of this, for you to stay in the league I don't see what else they could do.

It's most likely Northampton or non league, both sides would sooner see you go under than give in now.
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CCFC Ltd, which was the football club, went into administration and will be liquidated. There was nothing to say they had to give the share back to SISU they could have given it to PK4, Byng or one of the other bidders. So given that choice the FL selected the only people who's plan was to move the club out of the city.

They had other choices, they chose not to take them.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #44
edgy said:
Had the FL not allowed the ground share there was a very distinct possibility that CCFC would be thrown out of the league. The end.

But reading some of the bonkers ideas on here, that would be welcomed.
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with FFP and the revenues we will be getting chances are by the time SISU go we'll be out the league anyway.
 

hackneyfox

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #45
skyblu3sk said:
You still obsessed? Clark and the FL are a bunch of spineless peckers that have buried our club. As far as I am concerned there isn't a governing body.
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FFS Buried your club?
Why do you feel the need to blame someone else when the culprits have run your club into the ground for how many years now?

Sisu decided you were playing at Northampton and did everything they could to fore that decision.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #46
edgy said:
Had the FL not allowed the ground share there was a very distinct possibility that CCFC would be thrown out of the league. The end.

But reading some of the bonkers ideas on here, that would be welcomed.
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Why there was a ground there waiting for them:thinking about:
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #47
hackneyfox said:
If the fl refuse you permission and you don't return to The Ricoh then you would be thrown out of the league for not being to complete fixture.
If Sisu agreed to you playing at the ricoh then their whole gameplay of forcing acl into financial difficulties to gain control of the ground fails.
Clark is obviously aware of this, for you to stay in the league I don't see what else they could do.

It's most likely Northampton or non league, both sides would sooner see you go under than give in now.
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If the club got expelled from the league then SISU would have lost all of their total investment on the spot-the threat of this would have forced them to concede some ground. Their gameplay of trying to bust ACL to secure the Ricoh is exactly why the League shouldn't have just mindlessly granted their request.
 

hackneyfox

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  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #48
chiefdave said:
CCFC Ltd, which was the football club, went into administration and will be liquidated. There was nothing to say they had to give the share back to SISU they could have given it to PK4, Byng or one of the other bidders. So given that choice the FL selected the only people who's plan was to move the club out of the city.

They had other choices, they chose not to take them.
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Surely the administrator giving control to Optium, who had a direct to the club whereas as the others don't, somewhat forced where the share went? Get that wrong and it's 30 points.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #49
hackneyfox said:
Surely the administrator giving control to Optium, who had a direct to the club whereas as the others don't, somewhat forced where the share went? Get that wrong and it's 30 points.
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The League did a lot to make sure that Pompey's administrator only considered the bid from the supporters' trust. They could have made similar efforts here but chose the easy option.
 

Sisued

New Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #50
The points deductions don't matter, with sisu selling everything they can and slowly dismantling the club we will be relegated regardless.
Our clubs dead until it returns to Coventry and the way this is playing out that won't happen while sisu are in charge. That being the case how long until they relocate the club and rename it?
 

hackneyfox

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 9, 2013
  • #51
Hadn't the supporter's trust raised a significant amount of money and appeared to be united.
 
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skyblu3sk

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #52
hackneyfox said:
FFS Buried your club?
Why do you feel the need to blame someone else when the culprits have run your club into the ground for how many years now?

Sisu decided you were playing at Northampton and did everything they could to fore that decision.
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Not saying them alone but they certainly helped pat down the earth, everyone knows that.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #53
hackneyfox said:
Surely the administrator giving control to Optium, who had a direct to the club whereas as the others don't, somewhat forced where the share went? Get that wrong and it's 30 points.
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The administrator didn't give control to Otium. They made Otium (who are the same company as Ltd / Holdings / Avro) preferred bidder for Ltd who were (are) in administration. When the CVA was rejected the administrator announced his intention to liquidate Ltd rather than open bidding again or ask Otium to make an improved offer. The FL then decided that the best people to take their place were Otium, there was absolutely no law, or FL regulation that required them to issue the share to Otium they have decided to do that all on their own. Ltd is actually still in administration but for some reason the FL have decided that they are no longer in 'football administration' which personally I've never heard of before.

Fans have repeatedly requested the FL to act and follow their own rules and regulations, and indeed their own customer charter but SISU seem to have such a hold on them that the league are happy to ignore any rules that get in the way of SISU doing exactly what they want.

One of the other potential owners, PK4, has since had met with the council and it is rumoured that he may be purchasing at least a stake in the Rioch.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #54
hackneyfox said:
Hadn't the supporter's trust raised a significant amount of money and appeared to be united.
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Pompey supporters? Not at all, the fans have funded some of the buyout but they also have loans from a property investor and their local council. Living down here i can tell you there were, and still are, far from united.
 
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SkyBlueBlood

Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #55
The biggest disgrace in all of this is that immoral incompetents like Clarke and Fisher can get away with this.
 

James Smith

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #56
SonOfSnoz said:
Confirmation that CCFC is no more from the top man himself!
He earns a nice million sweetner too!
DISGRACEFUL!
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I'd happily do the job with the basic salary being my current wages (and remember I work in a shop so don't earn anything like £20k let alone £1m). Now expenses and expense accounts can be abused (any politician can tell you that) and free tickets could be seen as bribery. So let's say on top of my basic salary we add £5k for travelling to and from plus tickets to all the matches I'd have to go and watch as part of the job. The FA would have change from £25k, and have more to spend on rooting out unscrupulous owners, dodgy business practices etc.
 
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SkyblueBazza

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #57
Question is - How long will it take for Tim Fisher to do likewise?
 
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CovFan

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #58
The football league had an emergency board meeting to discuss the groundshare proposal where one of the considerations was the plans to return to the City.

Did this not happen then? Also his comments make the £1m bond decision even more bizarre.
 
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lift tower

Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #59
chiefdave said:
One of the other potential owners, PK4, has since had met with the council and it is rumoured that he may be purchasing at least a stake in the Rioch.
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bruce?
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #60
Another article that shows what I would only consider as incompetence. Not specifically about CCFC, but still shows up the FL and their not for purpose existence:

http://www.winsfordguardian.co.uk/uk_national_sport/9144599.Club_ownership__difficult____Clarke/
 

Sky Blues

Active Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #61
Pitiful words Mr Clarke. The Football League is not fit for purpose.
 

WiganSkyBlue

Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #62
I think this shows, if we didn't know it already, that an urgent investigation into the governance of football is required by the Dept of Culture, Media and Sport and/or the Dept for Business, Innovation and Skills, with a view to legislate as neither the FA nor the FL has shown any willingness to enforce their own rules.
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 10, 2013
  • #63
WiganSkyBlue said:
I think this shows, if we didn't know it already, that an urgent investigation into the governance of football is required by the Dept of Culture, Media and Sport and/or the Dept for Business, Innovation and Skills, with a view to legislate as neither the FA nor the FL has shown any willingness to enforce their own rules.
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These people are above the law!

http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/regthedonk/timandgreg.jpg
 

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