dongonzalos
Well-Known Member
No just means the ability to have a balanced view like Vicky has shown
If adult means high on rhetoric and very low on facts and stastical analysis then I will remain a juvenile thanks.
If adult means high on rhetoric and very low on facts and stastical analysis then I will remain a juvenile thanks.
Should I be taking offence at this
By comparing Robins to Thorn and saying we would be comparable you are saying Robins is the joint worst manager in this clubs history.
That is offensive.
It is about time you let it go.
Do you know the biggest difference between AT and MR so far? McGoldrick.
He scores goals when he wants. He scores most games. His presence keeps opponents players back. We drew our 1st 3 games whilst we missed plenty of chances. How would we have done if we had McG? If we would have won 1 or 2 of them games Shaw wouldn't have had the chance to feck up the start of our season. No drop in confidence. We could even be top of the table.
It is so easy to twist anything around. When are you going to stop and move forward Grendel? Do you still have gas lights in your house? Is your toilet still a bucket in a shed?
MR is now manager. He will get my full backing until I know for sure he is at fault for us being shite at any time. We already have a few idiots that think he is shite. This will keep growing until we get near the top of the table. A lot of people can't see past the end of their nose as to what is at fault with their club. How long will it be before lots join in. How long was it before anyone here joined in about our previous managers?
Some will say all of our managers have been shite in the last 12 years or so. Some of us kbow differently.
Should I be taking offence at this
It is about time you let it go.
I have others haven't. Those who suggest Thorn would do as well as Robins deserve challenging. It is nonsense based on assumption and ignoring any facts.
Do you know the biggest difference between AT and MR so far? McGoldrick.
No it isn't - organisation, tactics, meaningful substitutions, not losing games from winning positions every week - that is the difference - and it is getting better. At Christmas last year would had a striker on course for 20 goals over the whole season - we were still bottom.
He scores goals when he wants. He scores most games. His presence keeps opponents players back. We drew our 1st 3 games whilst we missed plenty of chances. How would we have done if we had McG? If we would have won 1 or 2 of them games Shaw wouldn't have had the chance to feck up the start of our season. No drop in confidence. We could even be top of the table.
We wouldn't. Shaw (Thorn appointed by the way - another super signing) should have won against Stevenage. To suggest an away win with Thorns record is spurious and ignores facts.
It is so easy to twist anything around. When are you going to stop and move forward Grendel? Do you still have gas lights in your house? Is your toilet still a bucket in a shed?
It is easy to twist things around. Pretend we would have won games under a manager who never won games is evidence of that.
MR is now manager. He will get my full backing until I know for sure he is at fault for us being shite at any time. We already have a few idiots that think he is shite. This will keep growing until we get near the top of the table. A lot of people can't see past the end of their nose as to what is at fault with their club. How long will it be before lots join in. How long was it before anyone here joined in about our previous managers?
Agreed except Thorn had backing from many despite it being obvious he was unfit for purpose
Some will say all of our managers have been shite in the last 12 years or so. Some of us kbow differently.
Agreed. Only Coleman and Thorn are in that bracket
dont back track
i can agree that 3 games may have been rash sacking but do not sit there and say mcg is only difference between him and robins
I need to make it clear as Grendel keeps clouding the issue.
No you constantly suggest Thorn is a good manager, that is nonsense
I think MR is a good manager.
But by implication no better than the worst manager in our history - insulting
I think this was the season when we really finally could judge AT, after 9 signings, screw that up, argument over.
Most rational people said give him ten games to decide, personally I felt longer due to all the new signings.
Most rational people realised Thorn should have been sacked last October.
Three matches is never enough time to draw that conclusion, especially a draw away in the 1st game, a draw at home to the favourites. Then a shocking 45 minutes. I would understand 3 heavy defeats.
Last season any defeat was acceptable to you
That decision and the circus that followed has derailed our season. Proven by the following 5 defeats.
Proved by 3 points from 8 games.
MR is a good manager. I still think we can make the play offs. I think it is a hard task due to the 5 defeats. Not like some say because we have the worse squad ever, that should be relegated.
Hard task after the first 8 games - even harder having taken over from the worst manager this club has ever seen
I still think we have a very good squad.
Subjective with no statistical back up as usual
I do like astute think DMC contribution is big. I believe he had been identified by AT before he was sacked. I think it was ridiculed on here as another AT option with a shit scoring record. I don't hear anyone, who says AT's signings are shit considering this.
He didn't sign when Thorn was here so that is the end of the argument unless of course he also signed Scott Dann, Fox etc. Thorn's transfer record is as embarrasing as his win ratio, points ratio or any other ratio you care to mention -- unless that is defeat ratio of course
Brown, Ball are not my cup of tea from the signings.
So Kilbane, Elliot, Malaga, Barton are?
Yes Malaga is now Nuneaton, however quite a few on here were dissapointed when he was suddenly no longer in the team.
He is now at Nuneaton. End of discussion
There is a big difference between Juke and McGoldrixks contribution. Juke left having scored 9 in 25 in the league which equates to 17 over a season.
McGoldrick has scored 8 league goals in 9 games, which over a 46 game season would be 41.
Things are improving however no one you can't deny that having a striker scoring nearly a goal per game isn't a massive factor in recent results.
MR has changed the mentality at the club. Discipline, organisation, belief and better tactics. He takes no prisoners and says it as it is. He doesn't pretend we'll hit the ground running or have the top goal scorer in the league or that all the signings are good players.
He has come out and said lots of things are wrong, there's loads of work to do and he needs to change the mentality.
Massive difference to AT I would have said.
He's played 13 games and scored 9 goals hasn't he?
Even DMC couldn't score during the period of instability
Except on his debut
Yet again some on here seem to have a problem with reading and then digesting what has been written. I said the biggest difference between AT and MR is McG. Without McG we would be poibts away from safety. We won our last game 3-1. McG scored 2 and set the other up. Did we play well? Did we deserve the win? How many points has McG got us so far with his goals? Where would we be without him? How happy would we be if we didn't have him?
Things are improving, but improving slowly. Who is saying we will do well if he leaves in January? If not then what is the biggest improvement? IMHO we are shafted without him. We are not playing much better. Are we playing any better at all?
We drew our 1st 3 games. How would we have done with McG? Where would we be if we had him from the start of the season and not had Shaw in charge? What is the biggest improvement other than having a player that scores goals?
How was Mauritius by the way?
He's played 13 games and scored 9 goals hasn't he?
dongonzalos 11:06 AM 12 Hours Ago
Originally Posted by covcity4life: dont back track
i can agree that 3 games may have been rash sacking but do not sit there and say mcg is only difference between him and robins Back track? Please explain.
Any explanation?
When were we first linked with signing dmc?
what dont you understand? mcg is not the only difference between thorn and robbins, that shouldnt even need to be detailed to you. only an idiot could say there is no difference between the managers
It does back a part of Richie Barkers assessment of the match on Tuesday,he is very much having the Marlon king effect on the team albeit a league below,but has settled into the side immediately where King did'nt appear to and is scoring at a far higher rate.
Your memory is failing you dear chap: it's me who's been sunning myself in the Indian Ocean....
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