Another decent read Squirrel but, as I said to you on Twitter, while I agree that the correlation between wages and league position is fairly strong - and therefore a reasonable indicator of likely league position - Yeovil did kind of upset the apple cart this year with their reported £1million budget.
There is a similar connection between performance and salary in Major League Baseball, but the book Moneyball tells of how the Oakland As managed to go against the grain of that correlation through some canny management. So maybe our chances this year might depend on whether we have a canny manager!
Another decent read Squirrel but, as I said to you on Twitter, while I agree that the correlation between wages and league position is fairly strong - and therefore a reasonable indicator of likely league position - Yeovil did kind of upset the apple cart this year with their reported £1million budget.
There is a similar connection between performance and salary in Major League Baseball, but the book Moneyball tells of how the Oakland As managed to go against the grain of that correlation through some canny management. So maybe our chances this year might depend on whether we have a canny manager!
Absolutely. The pressure is on Pressley. Is he the right man for the job? There are exceptions, but its the 87% stat that shows its unlikely...
Yeah, but everyone in sport knows about the moneyball approach and are looking for ways to get an edge.. I don't think CCFC are exactly leaders in the field... maybe Gary Johnson knows a thing or two though.. so far Steve Waggott hasn't exactly been perfect in the picks he agreed to, even if it was Thorn who gave him a list of players to look at..
It doesn't have to be the Moneyball approach per se, that was just an example of using a systemic approach to looking for an edge in other areas, but I think a similar bucking of the trend can be achieved in other ways. I haven't looked at the figures, so I don't know, but I suspect Moyes probably had Everton fairly consistently running ahead of where they theoretically should have been were the correlation between wages and league position 100%. I don't think he used Moneyball, I think he was just canny - at a guess building a strong team spirit, a consistent playing style and a top loading of wages towards the top 11-14 players may have been more of a factor there.
Another decent read Squirrel but, as I said to you on Twitter, while I agree that the correlation between wages and league position is fairly strong - and therefore a reasonable indicator of likely league position - Yeovil did kind of upset the apple cart this year with their reported £1million budget.
There is a similar connection between performance and salary in Major League Baseball, but the book Moneyball tells of how the Oakland As managed to go against the grain of that correlation through some canny management. So maybe our chances this year might depend on whether we have a canny manager!
The main point that comes out of Soccernomics (for me at least) is that the manager can get a team to over perform but for the most reliable indicator for team position in the table is wages. The most unreliable indicator is transfer fees. Hold on to your good players - Gunnarsson, Westwood, Keogh etc etc and the results would follow. They look at stats and financial records going back 20 or thirty years. My blog is only looking at one year and teams promoted/relegated - that took enough time to be honest!
Yeovil are part of the 13%, not the 87% that soccernomics come up with, and so buck the trend. On the whole, if you want to use stats and look for a trend, you pay for what you get.
SkyBlues - if you can be arsed, do you want to stick a paragraph on the comments section so your point can be added as I think its relevant? Ive been told not to update posts as it affects search engines, but not sure if thats actually true or not...
Squirrels table which correlates crowd to turnover & shows that each fan attending brings in approx £25 each... and has been consistent for some years is a very powerful argument and I congratulate him of spotting it.
The bottom line is that CCFC turnover will drop from around £7M last year to £2M this. How can that be in the best interests of the club.
Squirrels table which correlates crowd to turnover & shows that each fan attending brings in approx £25 each... and has been consistent for some years is a very powerful argument and I congratulate him of spotting it.
The bottom line is that CCFC turnover will drop from around £7M last year to £2M this. How can that be in the best interests of the club.
Ive put quite a lot of time into this one. Thought you may be interested.
http://aprisonofmeasuredtime.wordpr...n-the-almost-certain-demise-of-the-sky-blues/
If we move to Sixfields, and our attendance figures are around 3,000 a game, our income could drop to around £2 million a year which under FFP regs, means that we will be able to spend £1.3 million on players wages. In May 2011, we spent £10.3 million. Wycombe were relegated in 2012 on wage bill of £1.8 million. We would need to boost income to around £6 million for this budget, so even if the prediction of £2 million is low, the chances of being that far out are slim.
Either way, chances are we move, we go down.
Without looking at the stats my first thought is that Wycombe being relegated on a 1.8 million wage budget is also an exception to the rule.
The problem is that we have a lot of dead wood eating up the wage budget, some who would still be on championship wages
http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index...full-version-of-qaa-to-acl-and-ccfc?showall=1SkyBlueTrust Website said:1: Who are your negotiation team ?
ACL: Paul Harris, Chris West. Although a wider number of Board members which included Martin Reeves and P.W.Knatchbull-Hugessen, were in attendance on 29 January 2013
CCFC: Tim Fisher, Mark Labovitch (came very late into the process) and John Clarke (has since resigned)
2: Does that team have the authority to agree a deal?
ACL: Yes – within clear parameters. This is normal practice. The 4 shareholder Board members were present on 29 January 2013. At the start of the meeting we specifically clarified that CCFC Directors were also authorised to agree a deal.
CCFC: Yes – if economics agreed got club to cash flow zero next season
So from reading that I assume (and Tim feel free to correct me on any of this) that SISU don't want to put any more money in, as TF and ML couldn't agree to any deal which would cost the owners money. So as this was back in March maybe SISU haven't put anymore money into CCFC (for how long - who knows). So if that is the case and SISU aren't putting the money into the various companies to allow the paying of staff/players etc who is? Are we just living off cash in the bank and if so how long will that last given the administrator has to be paid, the ACL debt paid (does the escrow account need to be refilled?). Given the likely attendance at next seasons games and our drop in revenue, what are we going to do (apart from likely get relegated)?
Without looking at the stats my first thought is that Wycombe being relegated on a 1.8 million wage budget is also an exception to the rule.
The problem is that we have a lot of dead wood eating up the wage budget, some who would still be on championship wages
Sorry if I'm being lazy by not having read Soccernomics, but one question for me is: If you sell a player for say £1m (let's say Cyrus), can you then spend £1M on players transfer fee/wages, without it affecting the total you are working against ? (Ridiculous example - somebody wants to give us £50m for david Bell - does that entitle us to spend that sort of money back on the pitch, as overall cost neutral?)
We do still have some commercial income from Football League TV rights and generosity payments from the Premier League and, if we ever sign up a sponsor, from them too. However it does mark a seemingly massive U-turn from SISU, going from their own version of NOPM to suddenly being willing to bankroll a new stadium and years more of heavy losses at Northampton. Was it another 'Timmy truth' or a genuine reversal in policy?
I'd forgotten about the other payments, would they be enough to keep us going with comparatively limited other income from matchdays (assuming a limited turnout at NTFC)?
I'm not a financial expert and have limited experience of this so bear with me on this but something has been troubling me. Okay so I have had this thought before but it didn't really connect until I just re read the Trust Q&A again, and the news that the ball boys have been sacked. Just who is funding CCFC at the moment? We all know that SISU and their myriad of companies/offshore special purpose vehicles (Avro) etc. are currently holding the majority of our 'debt'. But are SISU still pumping money in to this, and the reason I thought about this was the following:
http://www.skybluetrust.co.uk/index...full-version-of-qaa-to-acl-and-ccfc?showall=1
So from reading that I assume (and Tim feel free to correct me on any of this) that SISU don't want to put any more money in, as TF and ML couldn't agree to any deal which would cost the owners money. So as this was back in March maybe SISU haven't put anymore money into CCFC (for how long - who knows). So if that is the case and SISU aren't putting the money into the various companies to allow the paying of staff/players etc who is? Are we just living off cash in the bank and if so how long will that last given the administrator has to be paid, the ACL debt paid (does the escrow account need to be refilled?). Given the likely attendance at next seasons games and our drop in revenue, what are we going to do (apart from likely get relegated)?
I'd forgotten about the other payments, would they be enough to keep us going with comparatively limited other income from matchdays (assuming a limited turnout at NTFC)?
Oldham have signed anton rodgers
cheltenham terry gornal
port vale sam morey
Bury nathan cameron
Burton chris hussey
Gillingham Lewis Montrose
COVENTRY CITY Fuck all
Divi 2 here we come all down to fishface the c**t
We certainly get some payments from the FL, but I think I recall that relegation from the Championship reduced these payments by £33 to £4m.
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