But 'when' is the problem.We may only have scored 26 goals in all 21 matches this season, but they've come from 13 different players. It would be good to think that this is an alternative approach to the '30 goals a season striker' we crave. You never know where (or when) the next goal is coming from!
Agree, it’s the constant attacking threat that’s been the downfall which has caused us to draw blanks. I think the positive is that we have actually started scoring now so long may that continueBut 'when' is the problem.
We have failed to score in 7 games. That is 1 in every 3. And we have failed to score in 4 of the last 7 games.
Robins has tinkered with the team - Ponticelli, Haynes, Vincenti back in and we've scored goals. Everyone is happier because we've won 3 games but they've all been relatively open games and we've been good in them since the Notts County game at the start of the season. Until we come up against the type of opposition content with a point and parking the bus - Barnet, FGR, Colchester etc I don't think we'll see if we've really learned from those horrible 4 games in October. Think we'll beat Mansfield, and Lincoln will be open as they'll want to win their home games but the tests will come at Stevenage away (they play Notts County at home and Mansfield away first, so will probably slip back to midtable) and Crawley at home, as both will probably be happy with a point.Agree, it’s the constant attacking threat that’s been the downfall which has caused us to draw blanks. I think the positive is that we have actually started scoring now so long may that continue
But 'when' is the problem.
We have failed to score in 7 games. That is 1 in every 3. And we have failed to score in 4 of the last 7 games.
I always like to be positive.7 in the last 3 not too bad things are on the up lets be positive
The two against Maidenhead were great finishes and he got himself into a great position for both. That's regardless of opposition.I always like to be positive.
But 1 game was against a non league team and another was against a U21 side.
7 in the last 3 not too bad things are on the up lets be positive
I don't disagree with you at all.The two against Maidenhead were great finishes and he got himself into a great position for both. That's regardless of opposition.
But 'when' is the problem.
We have failed to score in 7 games. That is 1 in every 3. And we have failed to score in 4 of the last 7 games.
Or we are good on the break but clueless on how to break down teams that play defensively.Pulled these stats together, thought they were interesting:
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Really highlights our inability to score against the bottom 8 teams. Just 2 goals from 6 games @0.33 goals per game there and conversely how well we play against the top 8 teams (10 goals in 6 games @1.67 goals per game). Screams tactics and not players to me, as I've said all season.
I don't disagree with you at all.
But we still have only scored in 1 game out of the last 5 against those at the same level as us. It just happened to be against the top side who are free scoring. And we also got 3. If only the crap sides were as easy to beat as the teams at the top.
Average league goals scored 1.32, conceded 1.32?Pulled these stats together, thought they were interesting:
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Really highlights our inability to score against the bottom 8 teams. Just 2 goals from 6 games @0.33 goals per game there and conversely how well we play against the top 8 teams (10 goals in 6 games @1.67 goals per game). Screams tactics and not players to me, as I've said all season.
Well that was what I was trying to say but only really the 2nd & 3rd against Notts County and the 3rd goal at Luton were goals on the break against the top teams. I think it's about space rather than just counter attacking as the core reason.Or we are good on the break but clueless on how to break down teams that play defensively.
That's the L2 average scored/conceded for comparison to our own individual averages. Sorry if I didn't word it well.Average league goals scored 1.32, conceded 1.32?
The two against Maidenhead were great finishes and he got himself into a great position for both. That's regardless of opposition.
So are we saying that because of the level of opposition he was able to get into a good position and finish well. I.e. he can't do it against league opponents or just speculating for the sake of an argument?Regardless of opposition? So better defenders don’t spot that?
I'm hopeful Robins has fixed it. By bringing in Haynes he has two attacking fullbacks and has started them visibly higher on the pitch. It means they in turn go beyond our wide midfielders higher up the pitch which enables them to get to the byline which should stretch out the opponents back 4 more and then create extra space in the middle. It's still reliant on one of Doyle or Kelly getting higher through the middle though so that the bank of 4 midfielders are occupied and not 5 yards in front of the defenders - perversely looking forward to seeing us against the next team that try itAnd that's goes back to our inability to break teams down and create decent opportunities against teams who come to park the bus not necessarily down to whether we have one 20 goal a season striker or not.
(Not aimed at you just a general point)
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So are we saying that because of the level of opposition he was able to get into a good position and finish well
It is true. If he were in the premier league he would be trying to get into that position and if he were playing you he'd be trying to get into that position.You said that it’s regardless of opposition which is of course not true.
Pulled these stats together, thought they were interesting:
View attachment 8337
Really highlights our inability to score against the bottom 8 teams. Just 2 goals from 6 games @0.33 goals per game there and conversely how well we play against the top 8 teams (10 goals in 6 games @1.67 goals per game). Screams tactics and not players to me, as I've said all season.
Pulled these stats together, thought they were interesting:
View attachment 8337
Really highlights our inability to score against the bottom 8 teams. Just 2 goals from 6 games @0.33 goals per game there and conversely how well we play against the top 8 teams (10 goals in 6 games @1.67 goals per game). Screams tactics and not players to me, as I've said all season.
It is no fluke that every team above us has a striker scoring nearly a 1 in 2 ratio or better.
I take people believe that is purely because all of those teams are creating better chances for their strikers.
So do we. The Duck has scored 1 every 152 minutes, that's tied with Luton's Danny Hylton and better than James Collins. It's also better than Exeter's Rueben Reid, better than Swindon's Luke Norris and Accrington's Kayden Jackson.It is no fluke that every team above us has a striker scoring nearly a 1 in 2 ratio or better.
I take people believe that is purely because all of those teams are creating better chances for their strikers.
You're right of course and the statistics fully support that:Spot on with the analysis. I think one of the main reasons problems we have difficulty with the lower league teams is that we don’t score enough early goals. Robins earlier in the season spoke about the need to ‘win the battle first’ - whatever this means - provides an insight to our tactics. But, generally speaking, against lesser teams, the longer you wait before you score, the more difficult you make it for yourself. For me, the solution is that we should probably be more aggressive in our attacking from the first whistle. You get an early goal vs the likes of FGR and we’re talking 3 or 4-0 against them.
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