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Diogenes

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #71
Deleted member 5849 said:
Tbf I could never ride a motorcycle after seeing Evil Kneevil plunge to his doom in a pond from on top of a garage.
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What were you doing on his garage?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #72
Deleted member 5849 said:
Are you uncomfortable with the size of your penis?

Are you uncomfortable having a penis?

Were you bullied as a child or an adult?

There has to be a reason for this faux macho behaviour. It's too camp to be real.
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Not that I'm bothered with you daydreaming about my penis, but it says a lot about you that you jump to call people racist, whilst being quite happy to make homophobic statements.

Look at you now, you don't have the balls to talk about these issues properly so your making comments about motorcycles. It's classic cowardly Northen Wisdom, the same person who was too frightened to leave their house for two entire years, but lashed out because some people had a different opinion than you.
 
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rob9872

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #73
Otis said:
He'd have been more damaged if it had been a Sindy doll
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Homophobic. Reported.
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #74
rob9872 said:
Homophobic. Reported.
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Don't bother. I was cancelled years ago.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #75
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Not that I'm bothered with you daydreaming about my penis, but it says a lot about you that you jump to call people racist, whilst being quite happy to make homophobic statements.

Look at you now, you don't have the balls to talk about these issues properly so your making comments about motorcycles. It's classic cowardly Northen Wisdom, the same person who was too frightened to leave their house for two entire years, but lashed out because some people had a different opinion than you.
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Lol. You really are a pathetic little man aren't you.

Go away, learn some things from places that aren't your feeble little echo chamber of other halfwits, and then try debating when you can understand words and can talk in more than clichés.

Until then don't act the innocent when people react to you being a c**t. It must be a sad little life when you have to desperately tag people for attention to fill your day with negativity, while having an ego inflated enough to think people care.

Still, you've given a good laugh I guess.
 
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Covkid1968#

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  • Jul 25, 2024
  • #76
Lifted off my ex forces mates Facebook. Not sure if the link will copy and paste. But it feels a worthwhile cause to me……. If not allowed the delete Nick.

Lt.Col Mark Teeton RE, who was subject of a completely unwarranted knife attack yesterday was raising money for a combat stress charity.

If you can spare it, let’s support this gentleman and a very worthy charity and at least give this very grey cloud a silver lining.

Use the link below

Sponsor

events.combatstress.org.uk
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #77
Sky Blue Pete said:
Sorry I should say
No excuse for the riots the book should be thrown at all of them
Those that assaulted an emergency worker will be charged and prosecuted and so should the police officer in the video
Final one I think it’s likely the guy will not be fit to be charged and we need some urgent action to ensure dangerous individuals get the help they need to not cause the terror on the streets he has
If people have taken bad decisions regarding them I have to say they are implicated in his actions. I hear the comment above about money and care not being available
I don’t see that the world is becoming more divided or dangerous though or this country

Think probably there is a greater need for leaders from all communities to be statesmen not like tice and Anderson saying fair play to the officer. Dicks
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We should be one community …’British ‘ …end of …..and herein lies the problem
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #78
Ashdown said:
We should be one community …’British ‘ …end of …..and herein lies the problem
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As someone who lives abroad there’s no way that id want to renounce my identity.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #79
Sick Boy said:
As someone who lives abroad there’s no way that id want to renounce my identity.
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I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #80
Ashdown said:
I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
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Nothing wrong with protesting, it's won us many of the privileges and freedoms we enjoy today.

And whileI don't really agree with the protests going on in Manchester currently you can't only defend the right to protest when you agree with the cause.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #81
Ashdown said:
I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
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It was going so well
 
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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #82
Ashdown said:
I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
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It's about respect.

Whenever I go abroad, I try and respect that country's laws and ways of life and customs and I always said, if I moved to another country to live, I would always try my very best to integrate and learn the language.

Most obviously do integrate here.l in the UK too.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #83
Ashdown said:
We should be one community …’British ‘ …end of …..and herein lies the problem
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What is this British you talk about?!!! The one moment that we nailed it in peace time was the 2012 olympics that was all about unifying over a common purpose and not seeking some perceived notion of Britishness

In fact I’d say Britishness is all about
Pride
Tolerance
Respect
Love of the underdog
Sense of fair play
Rule of law

what are yours??
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #84
Sky Blue Pete said:
What is this British you talk about?!!! The one moment that we nailed it in peace time was the 2012 olympics that was all about unifying over a common purpose and not seeking some perceived notion of Britishness

In fact I’d say Britishness is all about
Pride
Tolerance
Respect
Love of the underdog
Sense of fair play
Rule of law

what are yours??
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British culture is surely a theatric and literary tradition, stately homes and castles, and afternoon tea?
 
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San Francisco

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #85
Sky Blue Pete said:
What is this British you talk about?!!! The one moment that we nailed it in peace time was the 2012 olympics that was all about unifying over a common purpose and not seeking some perceived notion of Britishness

In fact I’d say Britishness is all about
Pride
Tolerance
Respect
Love of the underdog
Sense of fair play
Rule of law

what are yours??
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Moaning about the weather
Hating the French
 
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Ashdown

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #86
Otis said:
It's about respect.

Whenever I go abroad, I try and respect that country's laws and ways of life and customs and I always said, if I moved to another country to live, I would always try my very best to integrate and learn the language.

Most obviously do integrate here.l in the UK too.
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Totally agree Otis. We do exactly that in Spain
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #87
Sky Blue Pete said:
What is this British you talk about?!!! The one moment that we nailed it in peace time was the 2012 olympics that was all about unifying over a common purpose and not seeking some perceived notion of Britishness

In fact I’d say Britishness is all about
Pride
Tolerance
Respect
Love of the underdog
Sense of fair play
Rule of law

what are yours??
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Yes mostly all those
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #88
Sky Blue Pete said:
What is this British you talk about?!!! The one moment that we nailed it in peace time was the 2012 olympics that was all about unifying over a common purpose and not seeking some perceived notion of Britishness

In fact I’d say Britishness is all about
Pride
Tolerance
Respect
Love of the underdog
Sense of fair play
Rule of law

what are yours??
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Queuing
Crap weather
The Pub
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #89
Ashdown said:
Totally agree Otis. We do exactly that in Spain
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You might, plenty don't.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #90
clint van damme said:
You might, plenty don't.
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tbf Benidorm is a fine example of local culture holding steadfast in the wake of fry-ups, beer drinking and Sun reading...
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #91
Deleted member 5849 said:
British culture is surely a theatric and literary tradition, stately homes and castles, and afternoon tea?
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You forgot Morris dancing and bread and dripping sandwiches.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #92
tbh Americanisation has been the biggest dilution of a British culture, and continues to be.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #93
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbh Americanisation has been the biggest dilution of a British culture, and continues to be.
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Actually you are so right
Individualism
Greed
Envy
Arrogance
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #94
Sky Blue Pete said:
Actually you are so right
Individualism
Greed
Envy
Arrogance
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I was thinking more McDonald's, Starbucks, and Harrison Ford!
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #95
Deleted member 5849 said:
I was thinking more McDonald's, Starbucks, and Harrison Ford!
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There the good ones
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #96
Ashdown said:
I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
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There are a lot of first and second generation immigrants here who are respectful of the local culture and don’t cause problems - as is the case with most immigrations in host countries.
 
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Nick

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #97
Sick Boy said:
There are a lot of first and second generation immigrants here who are respectful of the local culture and don’t cause problems - as is the case with most immigrations in host countries.
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Think that's what it comes down to, to be honest. Respecting the local culture.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #98
Sick Boy said:
There are a lot of first and second generation immigrants here who are respectful of the local culture and don’t cause problems - as is the case with most immigrations in host countries.
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No one disagrees with that, and I don't think anyone has a problem with people who integrate, wherever they are from. The talking point is that there are many who are not doing this, and it's causing a problem in parts of the UK, and Europe. Speaking of the latter, I am curious how things are going to go in Paris the next few weeks despite the military operation. I know you are well travelled yourself, and that place is seriously struggling at the moment.
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #99
Deleted member 5849 said:
tbf Benidorm is a fine example of local culture holding steadfast in the wake of fry-ups, beer drinking and Sun reading...
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I’ve only been a few times, the truth is way more Spanish go to Benidorm than Brits. We did go and watch the Euro final for the atmosphere and then quickly flipped into the old town which was full of countless thousands of jubilant red shirts. We went and joined them in tapas alley for a late supper. It was all very friendly….and we have made the effort over the last 7 years to learn the language.
 
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Otis

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #100
Ashdown said:
I’ve only been a few times, the truth is way more Spanish go to Benidorm than Brits. We did go and watch the Euro final for the atmosphere and then quickly flipped into the old town which was full of countless thousands of jubilant red shirts. We went and joined them in tapas alley for a late supper. It was all very friendly….and we have made the effort over the last 7 years to learn the language.
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I can say "no thank you," "where are the toilets" and "go f*ck yourself" in at least 12 languages.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #101
Sky Blue Pete said:
What is this British you talk about?!!! The one moment that we nailed it in peace time was the 2012 olympics that was all about unifying over a common purpose and not seeking some perceived notion of Britishness

In fact I’d say Britishness is all about
Pride
Tolerance
Respect
Love of the underdog
Sense of fair play
Rule of law

what are yours??
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What about belief in the death penalty or criminality of same sex relationships?

They once were "British values" but no longer are. Values are clearly malleable and not something that you can reliably use to define a people.

Say, if in 30 years time the majority of British people become homophobic, would you accept that this is now a a British value or would you consider yourself no longer British as the majority held values that don't align with your own?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #102
Diogenes said:
What about belief in the death penalty or criminality of same sex relationships?

They once were "British values" but no longer are. Values are clearly malleable and not something that you can reliably use to define a people.

Say, if in 30 years time the majority of British people become homophobic, would you accept that this is now a a British value or would you consider yourself no longer British as the majority held values that don't align with your own?
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Why I was asking
 

shmmeee

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  • Jul 26, 2024
  • #103
Diogenes said:
What about belief in the death penalty or criminality of same sex relationships?

They once were "British values" but no longer are. Values are clearly malleable and not something that you can reliably use to define a people.

Say, if in 30 years time the majority of British people become homophobic, would you accept that this is now a a British value or would you consider yourself no longer British as the majority held values that don't align with your own?
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Were those things specifically British?

I don’t go for the Apple (or meat) pie freedom and pride and respect. These are basics of every civilisation.

It’s more things like a sense of fair play (see queuing, justice for the underdog, etc) IMO. You notice going to other places a sense of chaos and lack of respect for the rules that we don’t have. Also IMO a refusal to take people too seriously. Taking the piss is a very British thing to not let people get too big for their boots.
 
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Diogenes

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  • Jul 27, 2024
  • #104
shmmeee said:
Were those things specifically British?

I don’t go for the Apple (or meat) pie freedom and pride and respect. These are basics of every civilisation.

It’s more things like a sense of fair play (see queuing, justice for the underdog, etc) IMO. You notice going to other places a sense of chaos and lack of respect for the rules that we don’t have. Also IMO a refusal to take people too seriously. Taking the piss is a very British thing to not let people get too big for their boots.
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Let's use your idea about what British values are.

What happens if the government decides to import say, 5 million Italians and the Italians don't integrate, and within a few generations the Italians become a majority demographic in the UK.

The Italians aren't as big a fan as queuing and if you have ever tried to travel on or cross a road in Italy you will know how much they respect the rules and the chaos that ensues.

Now, by this point all these people of Italian origin are all British born, and hold British passports, meaning they are as British as any of us, yet they have values that you wouldn't previously have considered as British.

Could you really continue to say that those aspects that you hold to be British values are still British values, even though the majority of the population don't espouse them?

Would it not be fairer to say that the oppose is true, as the majority hold views that are contrary to those beliefs?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jul 27, 2024
  • #105
shmmeee said:
Were those things specifically British?

I don’t go for the Apple (or meat) pie freedom and pride and respect. These are basics of every civilisation.

It’s more things like a sense of fair play (see queuing, justice for the underdog, etc) IMO. You notice going to other places a sense of chaos and lack of respect for the rules that we don’t have. Also IMO a refusal to take people too seriously. Taking the piss is a very British thing to not let people get too big for their boots.
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It’s always great travelling to the UK from Italy. Brits (usually upper middle class) queue in the wrong place for the gate and then decide that’s the queue. It’s always then a pleasure to push ahead of them where the queue actually is and hear the passive aggression start.
 
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