That'll be gigs then
Yes sorry the predictive put in the second G for me on the phone I saw it as I pressed send
Psychic sally has been cancelled due to unforeseen circumstancesPsychic Sally is there though so it's not all bad news
It's ok blaming the World Cup this year. What will they blame it on next year?
Have all venues suffered because of the world cup then?
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The lack of a big name performer for 2014 has been partly blamed on the World Cup – despite the fact the venue managed to secure Bon Jovi and the Red Hot Chili Peppers during the 2006 World Cup.
It also attracted over 30,000 people to watch Pink perform in the stadium bowl in June 2010 – again while the World Cup tournament was being contested.
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All venues will never suffer; in a given market. Economic basics....have you evidence that the market isn't suppressed through the World Cup and other economic factors?
All venues will never suffer; in a given market. Economic basics....have you evidence that the market isn't suppressed through the World Cup and other economic factors?
Whoever that spokesman is at the Ricoh is talking absolute rubbish. The most likely reason for their not being any shows at the Ricoh this summer is simply that major artist touring cycles have coincided to give a year when there's a very limited number of stadium sized acts on tour. The world cup doesn't enter booking agents thoughts in the slightest. At the very most it would be avoid having a show at the same time as the final.
You really worship ACL don't you? More than anyone on this forum. That takes some doing.
You've made a huge leap there from me saying an ACL employee is talking absolute rubbish to me worshipping ACL, not entirely sure how you've got there.
This is my area of work, booking these type of tours, so I thought I'd give my view, that's all. As you seem to know more about my area of employment than me maybe you'd like to give an explanation as to why there's no shows at the Ricoh this summer.
It wasn't in previous World Cups as highlighted by stupot.
Out of interest what are the other economic factors you refer to. I'm interested as GDP and public spending is increasing year on year. What do you mean?
I was asking for evidence the market isn't suppressed? Not stating it was. But anyone with knowledge of the 'current' music industry (not Rush) will tell you it is changing; challenging and in flux...not necessarily in line with GDP and public spending and Cameron spin
For the same reason there is no rugby World Cup, there is no Heineken cup games, there is no show jumping or Northampton saints (chortle chortle) and there are no England under 21 games.
There is no permenant resident and there is a clueless management company flapping and flailing and trying to pretend their moved on.
All just my opinion of course.
For the same reason there is no rugby World Cup, there is no Heineken cup games, there is no show jumping or Northampton saints (chortle chortle) and there are no England under 21 games.
There is no permenant resident and there is a clueless management company flapping and flailing and trying to pretend their moved on.
All just my opinion of course.
as opposed to the on schedule new stadium announcement from the club ?
I was asking for evidence the market isn't suppressed? Not stating it was. But anyone with knowledge of the 'current' music industry (not Rush) will tell you it is changing; challenging and in flux...not necessarily in line with GDP and public spending and Cameron spin
I hope all sides see sense over summer.
The music industry at that size of show is doing incredibly well. There are areas where the business is struggling, and there is certainly a struggle to find bands who can sustain stadium sized tours on a regular basis in the way the likes of Bon Jovi, Rolling Stones, U2 have but generally the summer stadium tours are doing well.
A lot of the stadium bands are touring less frequently and there's a lack of bands who can fill stadium venues tour after tour which of course means a risk to promoters. If you put someone like Pink for example on a stadium tour for the first time you're not really sure if you're going to sell tickets or the level of promotion you will need to do to achieve the level of sales you need. Sure you will have some idea from the volume and speed of ticket sales from arena shows but you wouldn't have the same level of confidence you would booking someone like Bon Jovi who you know will shift tickets.
A potential threat to the types of tours we see at the Ricoh is the divergence of festivals. A few years ago the types of bands who would play festivals were very limited, now there are all sorts of festivals and it's less of a risk for an agent to book his artist onto a show like that, where they don't have sole responsibility for ticket sales.
The other thing that could be an issue is logistics. In recent years we've moved from a handful of acts (mainly U2 and the Stones) having huge, technically complex shows to them being a regular occurrence. Obviously there is a lot more work, and therefore cost, in setting up and breaking down those shows so what tends to happen is, where there is sufficient demand, a band will do multiple nights in a smaller number of stadiums. Coventry isn't a big enough city for promoters to risk booking multiple nights so there is potentially lost business there.
Worst thing that could happen for ACL is for one of the Birmingham stadiums to step up their game, given the option promoters will tend to favour a city with a bigger population as stadium shows need to draw more casual fans. Fortunately for ACL, for whatever reason, that doesn't really seem to be happening.
You clearly are experienced in this field. What do you do?
The music industry at that size of show is doing incredibly well. There are areas where the business is struggling, and there is certainly a struggle to find bands who can sustain stadium sized tours on a regular basis in the way the likes of Bon Jovi, Rolling Stones, U2 have but generally the summer stadium tours are doing well.
A lot of the stadium bands are touring less frequently and there's a lack of bands who can fill stadium venues tour after tour which of course means a risk to promoters. If you put someone like Pink for example on a stadium tour for the first time you're not really sure if you're going to sell tickets or the level of promotion you will need to do to achieve the level of sales you need. Sure you will have some idea from the volume and speed of ticket sales from arena shows but you wouldn't have the same level of confidence you would booking someone like Bon Jovi who you know will shift tickets.
A potential threat to the types of tours we see at the Ricoh is the divergence of festivals. A few years ago the types of bands who would play festivals were very limited, now there are all sorts of festivals and it's less of a risk for an agent to book his artist onto a show like that, where they don't have sole responsibility for ticket sales.
The other thing that could be an issue is logistics. In recent years we've moved from a handful of acts (mainly U2 and the Stones) having huge, technically complex shows to them being a regular occurrence. Obviously there is a lot more work, and therefore cost, in setting up and breaking down those shows so what tends to happen is, where there is sufficient demand, a band will do multiple nights in a smaller number of stadiums. Coventry isn't a big enough city for promoters to risk booking multiple nights so there is potentially lost business there.
Worst thing that could happen for ACL is for one of the Birmingham stadiums to step up their game, given the option promoters will tend to favour a city with a bigger population as stadium shows need to draw more casual fans. Fortunately for ACL, for whatever reason, that doesn't really seem to be happening.
As a side note.....having a roof over the venue helps!The music industry at that size of show is doing incredibly well. There are areas where the business is struggling, and there is certainly a struggle to find bands who can sustain stadium sized tours on a regular basis in the way the likes of Bon Jovi, Rolling Stones, U2 have but generally the summer stadium tours are doing well.
A lot of the stadium bands are touring less frequently and there's a lack of bands who can fill stadium venues tour after tour which of course means a risk to promoters. If you put someone like Pink for example on a stadium tour for the first time you're not really sure if you're going to sell tickets or the level of promotion you will need to do to achieve the level of sales you need. Sure you will have some idea from the volume and speed of ticket sales from arena shows but you wouldn't have the same level of confidence you would booking someone like Bon Jovi who you know will shift tickets.
A potential threat to the types of tours we see at the Ricoh is the divergence of festivals. A few years ago the types of bands who would play festivals were very limited, now there are all sorts of festivals and it's less of a risk for an agent to book his artist onto a show like that, where they don't have sole responsibility for ticket sales.
The other thing that could be an issue is logistics. In recent years we've moved from a handful of acts (mainly U2 and the Stones) having huge, technically complex shows to them being a regular occurrence. Obviously there is a lot more work, and therefore cost, in setting up and breaking down those shows so what tends to happen is, where there is sufficient demand, a band will do multiple nights in a smaller number of stadiums. Coventry isn't a big enough city for promoters to risk booking multiple nights so there is potentially lost business there.
Worst thing that could happen for ACL is for one of the Birmingham stadiums to step up their game, given the option promoters will tend to favour a city with a bigger population as stadium shows need to draw more casual fans. Fortunately for ACL, for whatever reason, that doesn't really seem to be happening.
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