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Sbarcher

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #36
RedSalmon said:
Read an article in the Guardian that speculated that she may already have tried to cut a deal and the prosecutors are not interested as they do not want to deal with her. Maybe she was the 'big fish' they were after so why should they do deals to reduce her sentence to prosecute other 'smaller fish'? I don't think we have heard the last of it yet, am sure other things will follow.

Thought it was breathtakingly arrogant of her not to take the stand as she felt the prosecution "had not proven their case". That must have influenced the jurors.
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I'm obviously wrong but always thought you cut the deal with the DA at the time of charging to go to court facing a lesser charge, not a deal on the sentence afterwards. Must have been watching too many American cop shows!
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #37
RedSalmon said:
Read an article in the Guardian that speculated that she may already have tried to cut a deal and the prosecutors are not interested as they do not want to deal with her. Maybe she was the 'big fish' they were after so why should they do deals to reduce her sentence to prosecute other 'smaller fish'? I don't think we have heard the last of it yet, am sure other things will follow.

Thought it was breathtakingly arrogant of her not to take the stand as she felt the prosecution "had not proven their case". That must have influenced the jurors.
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Not to be hugely cynical, but I’m guessing there’s political pressure for it to end with her.
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #38
Jan Moir (the ghoul who said gayness killed Stephen Gateley and somehow remained employed) waited until deep into injury time to try and claim the crown of worst take of 2021


The youngest victim in the Epstein/Maxwell scandal was 14, and most were in their mid to late teens. Which makes me wonder, at what age does someone move from child-victim status into a person who is responsible for their own actions?

When she was 15, Greta Thunberg began the school strikes and public speeches, which made her an internationally recognised climate activist
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RedSalmon

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #39
Sbarcher said:
I'm obviously wrong but always thought you cut the deal with the DA at the time of charging to go to court facing a lesser charge, not a deal on the sentence afterwards. Must have been watching too many American cop shows!
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You may very well be right and I could have totally misinterpreted what was said, have just tried to find the article and cannot.

Pure speculation here, but wonder how much affect the ongoing accusations against Andrew influenced Harry and Megan's decision to leave the family and move abroad. Pretty sure Magan would not have put herself in his company .
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #40
I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #41
Sky Blue Pete said:
I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel
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Not a chance she’s being charged now with perjury as well
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #42
ajsccfc said:
Jan Moir (the ghoul who said gayness killed Stephen Gateley and somehow remained employed) waited until deep into injury time to try and claim the crown of worst take of 2021
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What a c**t she is. Hopefully the next article I seen involving her is her obituary
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #43
clint van damme said:
What a c**t she is. Hopefully the next article I seen involving her is her obituary
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The journalists in the Mail are generally vile.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #44
shmmeee said:
Not to be hugely cynical, but I’m guessing there’s political pressure for it to end with her.
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Have you read anything on the deal Epstein made after his first conviction?

Sickening.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #45
Grendel said:
Not a chance she’s being charged now with perjury as well
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I think she’s been convicted of Epstein crimes as well. Hers were bad enough of course
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #46
clint van damme said:
Have you read anything on the deal Epstein made after his first conviction?

Sickening.
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What did he do?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #47
Nick said:
What did he do?
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Got away with an incredibly lenient deal for being a paedo and those that facilitated got handsomely rewarded with promotions.
Would need to look up again which administrations were in charge, think it spanned more than one.
 
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RedSalmon

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #48
RedSalmon said:
You may very well be right and I could have totally misinterpreted what was said, have just tried to find the article and cannot.

Pure speculation here, but wonder how much affect the ongoing accusations against Andrew influenced Harry and Megan's decision to leave the family and move abroad. Pretty sure Magan would not have put herself in his company .
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Found the article, unable to post a link but it was by Edward Helmore in New York. Was in the Guardian on 30/12/21.
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #49
clint van damme said:
Got away with an incredibly lenient deal for being a paedo and those that facilitated got handsomely rewarded with promotions.
Would need to look up again which administrations were in charge, think it spanned more than one.
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From memory all but one charge was dropped as part of the deal.

The remaining one (soliciting an underage girl for sex) that he accepted was by far the most minor hence the serious ones around rape etc. disappeared.

And to ice the cake, the bit of time he did spend inside he was released everyday to work out of his office, transported to and from via limousine, and had girls delivered to him at his place of work. A farcical disgrace.

And iirc the DA or lawyer who brokered the deal ended up in Trump’s cabinet or at least well up the political food chain.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #50
Sick Boy said:
The journalists in the Mail are generally vile.
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The same old cliche
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #51
Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight
 

stupot07

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #52
Sky Blue Pete said:
I can’t believe on appeal it won’t be changed though grendel
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There's no way her convictions are going to be overturned on appeal, he was fully complicit and active in the facilitating and trafficking these girls for Epstein. She would have eventually been charged and found guilty of these crimes even if Epstien hasn't killed himself.

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Ian1779

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #53
Grendel said:
Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight
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If Starmer had any sense he’d jettison Mandelson ASAP.
 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #54
Ian1779 said:
If Starmer had any sense he’d jettison Mandelson ASAP.
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I do in all seriousness wonder if Ms maxwell was say Jacob Rees Moggs daughter if this would become more political
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #55
Grendel said:
Talking about nasty journalists how are Mr Campbell and Mr Mandleson are feeling tonight
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Mandelson should be particularly worried.
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #56
Grendel said:
I do in all seriousness wonder if Ms maxwell was say Jacob Rees Moggs daughter if this would become more political
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You sound like the only one trying to make it political.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #57
What’s Mandelson done?
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #58
Sky Blue Pete said:
What’s Mandelson done?
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Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #59
Ian1779 said:
Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.
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Ta
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #60
Ian1779 said:
Him and Epstein more than comfortable buddies.
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Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family
 
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #61
Grendel said:
Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family
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This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #62
shmmeee said:
This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now
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Oh it’s just funny. Former labour MP donated millions to the socialist cause, employed Campbell and Mandleson…
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #63
Grendel said:
Mr Campbell and Mr Blair are very entwined with the Maxwell family
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They certainly are.
Like I said, you're the one trying to make it political.
Plenty on both sides should be worried. But I think Mandleson is the New Labour figure with most to hide.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #64
shmmeee said:
This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now
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Do you know of any 'Corbynites' who were in Epsteins black book or private jet passenger logs?

I've not seen any but if I've missed them I'll gladly ask questions of them as well.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #65
clint van damme said:
They certainly are.
Like I said, you're the one trying to make it political.
Plenty on both sides should be worried. But I think Mandleson is the New Labour figure with most to hide.
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You can be sure that if we get to election time and Mandelson is still in the Labour fold that it’s going to become quite the talking point.
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #66
shmmeee said:
This will definitely ruin Blair’s chances at the next general election.

I do find it cute how the Corbynites and the Tories are singing from the same hymn sheet now
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To be fair calling out elites who think they are above justice goes beyond political affiliation.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 31, 2021
  • #67
Ian1779 said:
You can be sure that if we get to election time and Mandelson is still in the Labour fold that it’s going to become quite the talking point.
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So they should. Anyone in that Black book or on those flight logs need thoroughly investigating, I don't give a fuck who they are are what their political persuasion.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jan 1, 2022
  • #68
Grendel said:
The same old cliche
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The Mail is vile xenophobic rag, surprised you’re actually defending it.
 

Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2022
  • #69
clint van damme said:
So they should. Anyone in that Black book or on those flight logs need thoroughly investigating, I don't give a fuck who they are are what their political persuasion.
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2022
  • #70
Frostie said:
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This one?

 
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