It's a daily occurrence isn't it...Meanwhile yesterday there was a knife attack in Plymouth and today 4 stabbed near an Asda in Croydon.
With apologies for the lengthy rant, I get a bit pissed off with the whole "hang-em-and-flog em" knee jerk suggestions to stop kids carrying knives. On its own, it simply doesn't work.
I'll let you do your own research, but when you think about it calmly you'll realise that a lot of kids are carrying knives because they're scared of becoming victims of violence. That's children scared of other children, and children scared of adults.
Whatever solution you want to come up with has to acknowledge that fact first, because just locking a few of them up for longer won't change anything.
In Scotland, they've had good results with a far more rounded approach, treating it as a public health issue. That, of course, costs money and time, and doesn't provide red meat for the Daily Mail.
In the meantime, here's a thought. In the cities (and county lines in particular), knife crime is driven by gangs, with adults exploiting children into becoming expendable couriers and soldiers in petty but deadly turf wars or respect 'beefs'.
If you're buying drugs from these scum-sucking fuckers (I can think of no other words for an adult who exploits a child), and plenty of people are, then to me, you're part of the problem.
Sorry again for going on - as a parent with a soon to be teenage son, there's not much that worries me more than this.
How Scotland reduced knife deaths among young people
Treating knife crime as a health issue has led to a dramatic drop in stabbings: of the 35 deaths of young people in Britain this year, none were in Scotlandwww.theguardian.com
And now a car runs into a crowd of trade unionists in Munich - supposedly an attack from an Afghan asylum seeker. Police say the suspect was known to them for theft and drug offences - if that’s all true, I can only ask what the hell was he still doing in the country?
One would hope that anyone guilty of drug and theft offences would be swiftly rejected and removed. Shouldn’t be complicated.Seeking asylum?
One would hope that anyone guilty of drug and theft offences would be swiftly rejected and removed. Shouldn’t be complicated.
And now a car runs into a crowd of trade unionists in Munich - supposedly an attack from an Afghan asylum seeker. Police say the suspect was known to them for theft and drug offences - if that’s all true, I can only ask what the hell was he still doing in the country?
What a total shit show. This is literally happening all the time now.
Elections there are imminent as well.
Not sure what the answer is. You could argue for bollards etc, but they'll likely move onto sporting events or something else with crowds and less protection. Almost impossible to police. I guess we should be thankful at being cars and not HGV's which are less accessible, but applications to learn should now perhaps be monitored closely.It's just a whole new can of worms using a vehicle isn't it. So little can be done about it too.
Major events can have barricades, but smaller group gatherings and just cars driving down streets in a town centre, but then mounting the pavement in order to just drive at people? What can you do about that?
It's awful isn't it.
Not sure what the answer is. You could argue for bollards etc, but they'll likely move onto sporting events or something else with crowds and less protection. Almost impossible to police. I guess we should be thankful at being cars and not HGV's which are less accessible, but applications to learn should now perhaps be monitored closely.
Oh of course totally agree, but I meant in terms of them being less accessible and I'd like to think if someone is interested in buying who isnt from a business it would raise a few flags.I think if somebody is going to use a car to drive into a crowd of people, they aren't going to be that arsed if they have a license or not.
So not an asylum seeker and no criminal record. Feel like there’s an opposing phrase needed for “if it sounds too good to be true it probably is” here. Seems crazy an asylum seeker with a criminal record was allowed to wander about and it turns out it was.
He arrived in Germany in 2016 and although his application for asylum was turned down he was allowed to stay in Germany and had a valid residence and work permit.Where are you seeing this?
From BBC:
The suspect - named locally as 24-year-old Farhad N - came to Germany in 2016, according to reports. He had his asylum application rejected, but his deportation was suspended.
Munich car attack: Suspected attacker named locally as counter-terrorism police take over investigation
Herrmann said initially that the suspect had been known to police but later explained that he had previously worked as a store detective and had been a witness in several cases of shoplifting.
He arrived in Germany in 2016 and although his application for asylum was turned down he was allowed to stay in Germany and had a valid residence and work permit.
The Munich prosecutor confirmed to reporters that Farhad N had been living in Germany legally.
And when they initially said known to police it seems that may be because he worked securityJihadist motivation in Munich attack, prosecutors say
The Afghan suspect admits driving into a crowd, injuring 36 people including a two-year-old, police say.www.bbc.co.uk
What a shambles, if anything that makes it worse. Looks like there is a key bit of information missing:
The man's asylum application was rejected, but he had not been forced to leave due to security concerns in Afghanistan and he was in Germany legally with a work permit.
All that confirms really is that the system is a joke. (We already knew that).
A 23-year-old Syrian man went on a stabbing spree near the Drau Bridge in Villach, Austria, injuring four and killing a 14-year-old boy. A food delivery driver intervened by hitting the attacker with his car, stopping the assault. One suspect is in custody, others may be on the run.
I think if somebody is going to use a car to drive into a crowd of people, they aren't going to be that arsed if they have a license or not.
Got to live with it sadly, horse well and truly bolted
How though? They have many land borders. We can't stop it with water in between so they've got no chance.I am very surprised that German people put up with all of this (mass immigration and terror attacks) Historically, they're a strong nation and I'm amazed they've let Merkel do the whole open arms shite.
How though? They have many land borders. We can't stop it with water in between so they've got no chance.
That's true about Poland, but also not as affluent so less desire to go there. In fact lots of poles have headed to Germany too as they have here for better opportunities.
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