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Harry Krishner

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #106
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?
 
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Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #107
Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?
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Right so the years of tweets of anti Muslim and pro Israel rhetoric were all planted there?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #108
ccfc922 said:
Just like those that dance with glee when it's not a Muslim.

Personally couldn't care who's done it, but it's a reoccurring theme within Europe at the minute. Like people have said, they were desperate to pretend it was a choir boy and Christian with the Southport attacks.

Anyway, more importantly, the death toll is low thank God, considering what happened.
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He was a Christian as far as we are aware aren’t we? I think he’s refused to speak so no motivations on record as of yet but nothing to suggest otherwise.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #109
Harry Krishner said:
Another Islamic terrorist attack?

Happy to retract if I'm wrong, but I'm probably not.
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Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash.
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #110
Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?
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Right wing terrorism tends to use guns like the school shooter recently, Brevik, Mair.

As for “overwhelmingly Islamist”, here’s the full list from here:

Vehicle-ramming attack - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

1973 - Mental Czech woman goes mental and rams her truck into people
1983 - Drunk Australian man rams truck into bar after being refused service
1999 - Mental Japanese man rams car after getting into financial triuble
2009 - Dutch man tries to ram Dutch royal family for reasons unknown
2014 - Incel American attacks a university because he couldn’t get laid
2016 - Islamist attack in France, you start paying attention.
2017 - Psychotic Australian drives into pedestrians
2017 - Psychotic Australian who may have been Muslim rams a tram stop
2017 - Islamist attack in Stockholm
2017 - Right wing American drives into a group of protestors
2017 - Islamist attack in Canada
2018 - Incel drives van into a group of women in Canada
2024 - Man drives car into an exercise track in China because of a divorce settlement
2024 - Seemingly right wing ex Muslim drives van into Christmas market.

Let’s ignore this one. Of 13 I make a maximum of 4 Islamist attacks. Which is roughly the same proportion as just random pissed off people and right wing incels.
 
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Harry Krishner

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #111
Your definition of right-wing would appear to be incredibly broad.

Let's wait and see, shall we?
 
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Macca

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #112
You know what it's an increasingly shit mad world so I for one wish all my fellow SBT members and their families a Merry Xmas and happy and healthy 2025
 
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Como

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #113
I would not quite go that far but she is up there with the greats

 
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Otis

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #114
Como said:
I would not quite go that far but she is up there with the greats

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Kathy Burke?
 
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rob9872

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #115
Otis said:
Kathy Burke?
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I thought more Eddie Izzard
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #116
shmmeee said:
Well he’s either Islamist or he’s right wing, they’re the only people who do this.
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Extremists it’s certainly not limited to Muslims or far right groups worldwide
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #117
Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?

Such attacks are overwhelmingly carried out by Islamists and everybody here knows it.

Where are the examples of the "far-right" carrying out similar attacks? The bloke in the van at Finsbury mosque?
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German interior minister it appears
Don’t he stupid you sound like a Twitter musk dick
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #118
Ccfcisparks said:
Right so the years of tweets of anti Muslim and pro Israel rhetoric were all planted there?
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Sleeper cell yep lol
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #119
Harry Krishner said:
All this "he's anti-muslim" bullshit is basically just that. It's a smokescreen designed to confuse and, most importantly, to take the momentum out of any potential backlash. My question would be who is behind such a smokescreen and why?
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Fucking hell have a day off.
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #120
Sky Blue Pete said:
Extremists it’s certainly not limited to Muslims or far right groups worldwide
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No as I showed it’s also generally mentally I’ll people with no ideology whatsoever.
 
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ccfc922

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #121
Ccfcisparks said:
Nobodies dancing with glee whatsoever.

they are just pointing out when people should have egg on their faces, such as you, for jumping to conclusions
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Literally cocks out wanking, look! It was a white fella! Look! Gammon!!!!
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 21, 2024
  • #122
ccfc922 said:


Literally cocks out wanking, look! It was a white fella! Look! Gammon!!!!
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No one other than Harry everyone thinks he’s a c**t and it doesn’t matter what religion or none he is
 

ccfc922

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #123
Sky Blue Pete said:
No one other than Harry everyone thinks he’s a c**t and it doesn’t matter what religion or none he is
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Nah, there's a sentiment. Fingers crossed it's not the "usual suspects" then euphoria when it isn't. I've seen it a few times now, not necessarily on here.

Personally, my initial reaction is always, why? these poor people being harmed/killed. Then anger towards the party that's guilty.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #124
ccfc922 said:
Nah, there's a sentiment. Fingers crossed it's not the "usual suspects" then euphoria when it isn't. I've seen it a few times now, not necessarily on here.

Personally, my initial reaction is always, why? these poor people being harmed/killed. Then anger towards the party that's guilty.
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Same
Then anger at everyone who tries to use the incident to further their own points of view
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #125
Some folk on here should be ashamed

He was a 50 year old ex-muslim turned anti muslim campaigner and fan of the AfD and yet even when shown this evidence claim it's a "smokescreen".

You are only folk who have been gleeful so go fuck yourselves with a massive spikey dildo you sad cunts.

Peace
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #126
ccfc922 said:
Nah, there's a sentiment. Fingers crossed it's not the "usual suspects" then euphoria when it isn't. I've seen it a few times now, not necessarily on here.

Personally, my initial reaction is always, why? these poor people being harmed/killed. Then anger towards the party that's guilty.
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The truth is it’s actually the opposite. Posters hoping it’s a Muslim so they can work backwards from a bigoted conclusion.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #127
David O'Day said:
Some folk on here should be ashamed

He was a 50 year old ex-muslim turned anti muslim campaigner and fan of the AfD and yet even when shown this evidence claim it's a "smokescreen".

You are only folk who have been gleeful so go fuck yourselves with a massive spikey dildo you sad cunts.

Peace
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Don’t go on x then
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #128
Sky Blue Pete said:
Don’t go on x then
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why? it seems to be mostly people laughing at Elon Musk
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #129
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The truth is it’s actually the opposite. Posters hoping it’s a Muslim so they can work backwards from a bigoted conclusion.
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Yeah. 100%.

My first thought and stance is always one of "how awful" when I hear such stories and then it's thoughts for the victims and survivors and then to wonder who did it it and why.

I most certainly don't go for the "I bet he's Muslim" angle.

Always best to wait for the facts and not jump to conclusions.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #130
David O'Day said:
why? it seems to be mostly people laughing at Elon Musk
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Not my feed
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #131
Otis said:
Yeah. 100%.

My first thought and stance is always one of "how awful" when I hear such stories and then it's thoughts for the victims and survivors and then to wonder who did it it and why.

I most certainly don't go for the "I bet he's Muslim" angle.

Always best to wait for the facts and not jump to conclusions.
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And then if they don’t fit my prejudice then just rearrange the facts to myself
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #132
There are bits now coming out of his recent support for Hamas and connections to shia extremists.
There is a rule in Islam where you can lie to progress the cause. 20 years is a long time but depends how committed someone Is I suppose.
I’m sure there will be more coming out (maybe not on the bbc though).
Go with an open mind as either could be right.
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #133
eastwoodsdustman said:
There are bits now coming out of his recent support for Hamas and connections to shia extremists.
There is a rule in Islam where you can lie to progress the cause. 20 years is a long time but depends how committed someone Is I suppose.
I’m sure there will be more coming out (maybe not on the bbc though).
Go with an open mind as either could be right.
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he's not a muslim mate, he's anti muslim

why not the bbc? is some bloke in his mums basement posting on twitter and youtube a better news source?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #134
eastwoodsdustman said:
There are bits now coming out of his recent support for Hamas and connections to shia extremists.
There is a rule in Islam where you can lie to progress the cause. 20 years is a long time but depends how committed someone Is I suppose.
I’m sure there will be more coming out (maybe not on the bbc though).
Go with an open mind as either could be right.
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So social media bollocks with no basis then?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #135
Why would you commit terrorism which is explicitly violence to further a political cause, then not admit to it? Defeats the entire point.

Still I’m sure TruthSeeker420 on Reddit has some vital information the media are hiding that lets you keep your prejudices

We need an aptitude test before you’re allowed online.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #136
David O'Day said:
he's not a muslim mate, he's anti muslim

why not the bbc? is some bloke in his mums basement posting on twitter and youtube a better news source?
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Come on sheeple
BBC is part of a globalist network of misinformation
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #137
Sky Blue Pete said:
Come on sheeple
BBC is part of a globalist network of misinformation
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Musk has bought the BBC now?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #138
shmmeee said:
Why would you commit terrorism which is explicitly violence to further a political cause, then not admit to it? Defeats the entire point.

Still I’m sure TruthSeeker420 on Reddit has some vital information the media are hiding that lets you keep your prejudices

We need an aptitude test before you’re allowed online.
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Too late
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #139
Can someone explain to them why a terrorist attack on a Xmas market doesn’t have all the hall marks of just a Muslim attack?
 
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David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 22, 2024
  • #140
Sky Blue Pete said:
Can someone explain to them why a terrorist attack on a Xmas market doesn’t have all the hall marks of just a Muslim attack?
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because it wasn't a muslim attack
 
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