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ccfc922

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #316
Nick said:
Not sure what's good? I've worked since I was 16, I try to improve myself and my career as much as I can for my daughter. I've never been on any benefits and hopefully don't intend to need them. I'll probably need to work until I'm 75, then my daughter will get rinsed if I leave her anything.

Where does that get me? Preach all you want but some days a hotel paid for, no bills, cooked for, cleaned for, laundry done sounds lovely. Probably just shag a bit and have 7 kids, never have to pay a penny. Lovely stuff.

My eyes opened when I was due to be in a hotel and it got cancelled a few days before, we still went to the hotel in the daytime and it was like a third world country. Literally trashed, getting robbed blind, staff abused. Bar staff literally petrified and needing security.

Same as when somebody worked in housing (not just migrants) and there was some eye opening shit with lazy British cunts too.
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I'd booked the old De Vere to come up for a game and was told upon checking in that there'd been a mistake and they'd over booked. Make of that what you will.

Britannia is the same down here in Bournemouth, constantly "booked up". The roundhouse was a "student bust up" not long ago and it turned out it wasn't the case at all... look at the difference in the two links below. No pictures in the Echo link naturally, wonder why

Bournemouth brawl: Three college students among five injured - BBC News

Five people were taken to hospital and three arrested after the incident in Bournemouth, police say.
www.bbc.co.uk


Pair jailed following stabbing near Bournemouth college

Officers were alerted to reports of a disturbance on Meyrick Road at around 2.45pm on January 25, 2024.
www.bournemouthecho.co.uk
 

ccfc922

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #317
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ah cause that’s what there doing
It’s called othering a whole group of people because there to blame for all the ills of society
We’ve seen it before we just forget and repeat the mistakes ad infinitem
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I genuinely don't know whether I'd rather live in your world of delusion or not.

You seem a genuinely nice person and have no ill against you, but hopefully none of your relatives run in to the issues that are happening daily.

Unfortunately, as much as you like to not believe it, there's some horrible cunts in this world and a holy book/morals won't protect you from them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #318
ccfc922 said:
I genuinely don't know whether I'd rather live in your world of delusion or not.

You seem a genuinely nice person and have no ill against you, but hopefully none of your relatives run in to the issues that are happening daily.

Unfortunately, as much as you like to believe it, there's some horrible cunts in this world and a holy book/morals won't protect you from them.
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You like many around the world have realised you're getting screwed over. Just like them you've come to the wrong conclusion over who is to blame and who is providing the real solutions to them.
 
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ccfc922

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #319
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Seems a fair reason to elect the Nazis 2.0
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Ahh, the old if you don't want people stabbing police officers to death, or mowing down people at a Christmas Market = you're a Nazi.

Imagine if there was a middle ground of how about people aren't cunts and lived their lives like a decent human being and if they don't, then they're dealt with?
 
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ccfc922

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #320
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You like many around the world have realised you're getting screwed over. Just like them you've come to the wrong conclusion over who is to blame and who is providing the real solutions to them.
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I've already said that our politicians are cunts. They seem intent on causing misery around the world and then importing people who hate Europe into Europe from the war torn countries they're bombing.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, so show your workings please?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #321
ccfc922 said:
I genuinely don't know whether I'd rather live in your world of delusion or not.

You seem a genuinely nice person and have no ill against you, but hopefully none of your relatives run in to the issues that are happening daily.

Unfortunately, as much as you like to not believe it, there's some horrible cunts in this world and a holy book/morals won't protect you from them.
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Mate I am a horrible c**t sometimes and so are you
The world is mostly full of wonderful people doing wonderful things with a smattering of cunts
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #322
ccfc922 said:
Ahh, the old if you don't want people stabbing police officers to death, or mowing down people at a Christmas Market = you're a Nazi.

Imagine if there was a middle ground of how about people aren't cunts and lived their lives like a decent human being and if they don't, then they're dealt with?
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Yep like most people you absolute loon
Including most immigrants
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #323
ccfc922 said:
Ahh, the old if you don't want people stabbing police officers to death, or mowing down people at a Christmas Market = you're a Nazi.

Imagine if there was a middle ground of how about people aren't cunts and lived their lives like a decent human being and if they don't, then they're dealt with?
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How much do you know about AfD? Genuinely?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #324
The stats are something like 25% of Americans don’t believe the holocaust happened or has been exaggerated

1 in 4!!!!!!

I’ll get the rest and post later

It’s no wonder racists feel emboldened
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #325
ccfc922 said:
I've already said that our politicians are cunts. They seem intent on causing misery around the world and then importing people who hate Europe into Europe from the war torn countries they're bombing.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, so show your workings please?
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The point I'm trying to make is you like hundreds of millions around the world have been drawn in by the right and far right into blaming foreigners for the various domestic issues the country faces while those actually responsible quietly walk out the back door with pockets full of cash.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #326
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The point I'm trying to make is you like hundreds of millions around the world have been drawn in by the right and far right into blaming foreigners for the various domestic issues the country faces while those actually responsible quietly walk out the back door with pockets full of cash.
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And make more when everything goes tits up
 

ccfc922

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #327
Sky Blue Pete said:
Mate I am a horrible c**t sometimes and so are you
The world is mostly full of wonderful people doing wonderful things with a smattering of cunts
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I've never felt the need to butcher people, so don't tar me with the same brush as the "people" you're trying to defend. I'd be amazed if you've felt the need to stab innocent people to death either, so don't align yourself with them either?
 
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Otis

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #328
Sky Blue Pete said:
Mate I am a horrible c**t sometimes and so are you
The world is mostly full of wonderful people doing wonderful things with

a smattering of cunts
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Fantastic name for a band, that.
 
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ccfc922

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #329
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The point I'm trying to make is you like hundreds of millions around the world have been drawn in by the right and far right into blaming foreigners for the various domestic issues the country faces while those actually responsible quietly walk out the back door with pockets full of cash.
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Jesus Christ.

So you repeat what I've said back to me and then say that those responsible are telling/paying their imported "issues" to butcher the native population?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #330
ccfc922 said:
I've never felt the need to butcher people, so don't tar me with the same brush as the "people" you're trying to defend. I'd be amazed if you've felt the need to stab innocent people to death either, so don't align yourself with them either?
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All he's saying is to stop blaming a huge group of people for the actions of a tiny number. To be clear, it's things like this that lead me to call them the 2.0 Nazis:

German far-right AfD in disarray after Nazi remark

A top far-right German politician says he will pull back from campaigning for the EU elections.
www.bbc.co.uk

Too right wing even for Marine Le Pen.
 
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ccfc922

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #331
Brighton Sky Blue said:
All he's saying is to stop blaming a huge group of people for the actions of a tiny number. To be clear, it's things like this that lead me to call them the 2.0 Nazis:

German far-right AfD in disarray after Nazi remark

A top far-right German politician says he will pull back from campaigning for the EU elections.
www.bbc.co.uk

Too right wing even for Marine Le Pen.
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I'm not blaming a huge group of people though am I?

There's a clear problem and it needs addressing, but people want to bury their heads in the sand like yourself (clearly) and Pete.

Then if you call it out, you're automatically a Nazi
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #332
ccfc922 said:
I'm not blaming a huge group of people though am I?

There's a clear problem and it needs addressing, but people want to bury their heads in the sand like yourself (clearly) and Pete.

Then if you call it out, you're automatically a Nazi
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Did I call you a Nazi or AfD the Nazis 2.0?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #333
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The point I'm trying to make is you like hundreds of millions around the world have been drawn in by the right and far right into blaming foreigners for the various domestic issues the country faces while those actually responsible quietly walk out the back door with pockets full of cash.
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Give me globalism over nationalism in a heart beat
Let me find those stats from the book I’m reading
Two thirds of Americans didn’t know how many Jews died in the holocaust
Half couldn’t name a single concentration camp
23% believes the holocaust was a myth or had been exaggerated
17% said it was acceptable to hold neo
Nazi views. In Europe a third knew just as little or hadn’t heard of the holocaust
20% thought the Jewish people had too much influence in the worlds of business and finance

As a race of people we are fucked unless we focus on our lives and being the best we can be

Why do people assume I’ve been closeted and haven’t suffered ffs
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #334
ccfc922 said:
When were the Jews in 1930s Germany running around stabbing or mowing down German/Non Jewish people?
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You do know that the entire excuse for Kristallnacht was because a Jewish teenager killed a Nazi diplomat don't you?
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #335
Sky Blue Pete said:
Give me globalism over nationalism in a heart beat
Let me find those stats from the book I’m reading
Two thirds of Americans didn’t know how many Jews died in the holocaust
Half couldn’t name a single concentration camp
23% believes the holocaust was a myth or had been exaggerated
17% said it was acceptable to hold neo
Nazi views. In Europe a third knew just as little or hadn’t heard of the holocaust
20% thought the Jewish people had too much influence in the worlds of business and finance

As a race of people we are fucked unless we focus on our lives and being the best we can be

Why do people assume I’ve been closeted and haven’t suffered ffs
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Im surprised as many actually did know in the US
 
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rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #336
Sky Blue Pete said:
Give me globalism over nationalism in a heart beat
Let me find those stats from the book I’m reading
Two thirds of Americans didn’t know how many Jews died in the holocaust
Half couldn’t name a single concentration camp
23% believes the holocaust was a myth or had been exaggerated
17% said it was acceptable to hold neo
Nazi views. In Europe a third knew just as little or hadn’t heard of the holocaust
20% thought the Jewish people had too much influence in the worlds of business and finance

As a race of people we are fucked unless we focus on our lives and being the best we can be

Why do people assume I’ve been closeted and haven’t suffered ffs
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Tbf they don't teach that kind of stuff on the curriculum now, I'd be amazed what our % of young people know about it in the UK. A lot of the figures you quote are probably the same people in each category and rather than concentrate on the negative 1 in 4, be positive about the 3 in 4 who are aware.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #337
rob9872 said:
Tbf they font teach that kind of stuff on the curriculum now, I'd be amazed what our % of young people know about it in the UK. A lot of the figures you quote are probably the same people in each category and rather than concentrate on the negative 1 in 4, be positive about the 3 in 4 who are aware.
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It certainly remains firmly on the GCSE History curriculum if not covered at KS3. Though the AfD coming 2nd in Germany where knowledge of the Nazi era is much more common should be deeply unsettling.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #338
rob9872 said:
Tbf they don't teach that kind of stuff on the curriculum now, I'd be amazed what our % of young people know about it in the UK. A lot of the figures you quote are probably the same people in each category and rather than concentrate on the negative 1 in 4, be positive about the 3 in 4 who are aware.
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Oh I am id assumed Farage would attract 20% but it’s nearing 30%
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #339
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It certainly remains firmly on the GCSE History curriculum if not covered at KS3. Though the AfD coming 2nd in Germany where knowledge of the Nazi era is much more common should be deeply unsettling.
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It is deeply unsettling
 

rob9872

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #340
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It certainly remains firmly on the GCSE History curriculum if not covered at KS3. Though the AfD coming 2nd in Germany where knowledge of the Nazi era is much more common should be deeply unsettling.
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Only if taken as an option. Something we've not spoken about at home really, so probably a failing on our part, but I know my daughter knows very little about the world wars or even more recent conflicts of Falklands, Iraq, Afghanistan or even Ireland.
 
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Marty

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #341
rob9872 said:
Only if taken as an option. Something we've not spoken about at home really, so probably a failing on our part, but I know my daughter knows very little about the world wars or even more recent conflicts of Falklands, Iraq, Afghanistan or even Ireland.
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What do they learn instead?
 

rob9872

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #342
Marty said:
What do they learn instead?
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Tbh I do wonder sometimes as Geography seems nothing like when I was a kid too. Certainly nothing that would help in a general knowledge quiz!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #343
rob9872 said:
Only if taken as an option. Something we've not spoken about at home really, so probably a failing on our part, but I know my daughter knows very little about the world wars or even more recent conflicts of Falklands, Iraq, Afghanistan or even Ireland.
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When we studied WW1 at GCSE we learnt about how it started, the Schlieffen plan, trench warfare, the Somme, the introduction of tanks, use of chemical weapons etc. Not one bit about the Easter rising despite its role in the eventual partition of Ireland.

Mrs BSB teaches whole classes of children at secondary school who have never heard of the Holocaust or even know when WW2 was, so despite it not being her subject she has to explain the bare bones of those events for pieces of literature to make some contextual sense.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #344
rob9872 said:
Tbf they don't teach that kind of stuff on the curriculum now, I'd be amazed what our % of young people know about it in the UK. A lot of the figures you quote are probably the same people in each category and rather than concentrate on the negative 1 in 4, be positive about the 3 in 4 who are aware.
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
When we studied WW1 at GCSE we learnt about how it started, the Schlieffen plan, trench warfare, the Somme, the introduction of tanks, use of chemical weapons etc. Not one bit about the Easter rising despite its role in the eventual partition of Ireland.

Mrs BSB teaches whole classes of children at secondary school who have never heard of the Holocaust or even know when WW2 was, so despite it not being her subject she has to explain the bare bones of those events for pieces of literature to make some contextual sense.
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That’s why nationalism is making a return no one recognises the signs
I’m sure if we remove every Muslim from our society that crime would stop. Vote for me
Ffs we are the undead
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #345
Sky Blue Pete said:
That’s why nationalism is making a return no one recognises the signs
I’m sure if we remove every Muslim from our society that crime would stop. Vote for me
Ffs we are the undead
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The Nazi rise to power was achieved not by brute force but by winning an election. Funnily enough Hitler did not campaign on removing democratic rights or concentrating all of the executive power in one man but it was always the plan.

Just as a certain individual in the US is now hijacking democracy after winning an election.
 

Evo1883

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #346
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The Nazi rise to power was achieved not by brute force but by winning an election. Funnily enough Hitler did not campaign on removing democratic rights or concentrating all of the executive power in one man but it was always the plan.

Just as a certain individual in the US is now hijacking democracy after winning an election.
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There was quite a bit of brute force used during their rise to power
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #347
Evo1883 said:
There was quite a bit of brute force used during their rise to power
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The point stands they did not seize power by force, but were voted in.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #348
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The point stands they did not seize power by force, but were voted in.
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They weren’t voted in
 
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Evo1883

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #349
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The point stands they did not seize power by force, but were voted in.
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Not entirely true either , the enabling act allowed hitler to take full power of Germany
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 23, 2025
  • #350
Evo1883 said:
Not entirely true either , the enabling act allowed hitler to take full power of Germany
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Which was passed following his installation as Chancellor which itself followed the Nazis winning two elections in a row. The plan was to win elections and then hijack the democracy to remain in permanent power, which is what happened.
 
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