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  • Start date Apr 2, 2017
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Skybluefaz

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  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #421
I think linnell is just going off that fake John harriot account
 
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CCFC_Charlie

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #422
If he is indeed going on the tour then I'd be shocked if he wasn't staying, especially considering that Turnbull isn't going
 

YorkshireSkyBlue

New Member
  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #423
Personally I think Thomas will be staying purely on the fact that why would Robins be taking a player to Spain that he knows will not be playing next year.


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Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #424
My take on it is that this might suit both parties. Doing us a favour in signing and if he goes on to have a really good season he will be in high demand in January and his profile could well be higher and we can then sell him for more money than we would currently be getting right now. Plus he obviously gets guaranteed game time here that he wouldn't get at any Championship or Premier club,
 
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robbiethemole

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  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #425
YorkshireSkyBlue said:
Personally I think Thomas will be staying purely on the fact that why would Robins be taking a player to Spain that he knows will not be playing next year.


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maybe Thomas didn't get a beach holiday this year, and a Spain tour would be the next best, and Robins is feeling generous towards him ?
 

YorkshireSkyBlue

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  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #426
robbiethemole said:
maybe Thomas didn't get a beach holiday this year, and a Spain tour would be the next best, and Robins is feeling generous towards him ?
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I think the tour is to play football not sunbathe.



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Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #427
Maybe Robins has taken him on tour as it would push up his tribunal fee if he can say he was key to our plans for the season
 

Voice_of_Reason

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 7, 2017
  • #428
Has it not crossed anyone's mind that a deal has been done with a loan back to Sky Blues - as happened with Maddison who Norwich loaned back to us ?
 
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steve82

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #429
Is he gonna get a deal done anywhere or not... strange whys this one taking so long to go through.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #430
robins surely has to at some point say enough is enough, give me your decision by 5pm today or something similar(maybe 4pm lol)
 
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steve82

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #431
covcity4life said:
robins surely has to at some point say enough is enough, give me your decision by 5pm today or something similar(maybe 4pm lol)
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Even if it's not with us which seems unlikely he's missing out on preseason work. The rest will do him good I guess as he played the Toulon tournament but at some point he will need to get playing matches again.

Just seems very strange that he's not fixed up yet.
 
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Liquid Gold

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #432
Yeah, even for him. At this stage of his career, particularly this season, he should have a full pre season and be ready to go at it for game 1. Either with us to show he's worth playing higher up or with his new team to prove he's worth developing.

Makes no sense to either party that this has dragged on so long
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #433
To be honest, I'd forgotten about George. I'd say he's probably not going to sign for us if it's not done by now. Only explanation is he's seeing what else is out there which means he doesn't want to be here.
 

no_loyalty

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #434
It could be that we can't agree on a compensation fee and are still negotiating?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #435
no_loyalty said:
It could be that we can't agree on a compensation fee and are still negotiating?
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Yep, could be that. I don't see a scenario now where he stays. I don't understand the clamour from clubs above to sign him to be honest. He's not yet proven in the lower leagues. I think he has potential but we all saw he needs to be playing regularly to up his game. Can see him doing what Bigi did and eventually disappearing into obscurity.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #436
covcity4life said:
robins surely has to at some point say enough is enough, give me your decision by 5pm today or something similar(maybe 4pm lol)
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Would he then become a free agent and no compensation due? Or would it lower his value at compensation
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #437
Update from Robins here but nothing we didn't already know agents looking at other clubs etc.

Coventry City's George Thomas urged to make decision asap
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #438
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Update from Robins here but nothing we didn't already know agents looking at other clubs etc.

Coventry City's George Thomas urged to make decision asap
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So basically Robins feels the same way we do. The problem with footballers these days are their advisors who are only actually looking after themselves. All they want is a quick payday, they don't actually care about a players career.
 

chiefdave

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #439
Sounds like his agent is touting him around but nobody has made a firm offer.
 
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mark82

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #440
chiefdave said:
Sounds like his agent is touting him around but nobody has made a firm offer.
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Or that the only offers so far are for under 23 football. Maybe he wants first team but his agent just wants higher wage so not finding appropriate teams.

I still say if he was interested in staying he'd have signed by now.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #441
Thing is with George Thomas who is he going to sign for where he'll get regular first team football, I'd say no chance at Premier level and at the moment restricted at championship level, perhaps one of the newbies like Sheffield United or Bolton maybe, so I would say top end league one. He's okay but I think he needs to learn his game more, if I was advising him I'd say stay atleast until the January window get established in our first team which hopefully does a lot better this season, if he produces the clamour for him will grow
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #442
What sort of agreement does a footballer sign with his agent? Who has the final say over where a footballer's future lies? The way its described, it's as if the agent tells the football who to sign for. I'd like to see players like Thomas repay their debt to the club by staying around, at least get the club back to where it was when it gave you your chance.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #443
fernandopartridge said:
What sort of agreement does a footballer sign with his agent? Who has the final say over where a footballer's future lies? The way its described, it's as if the agent tells the football who to sign for. I'd like to see players like Thomas repay their debt to the club by staying around, at least get the club back to where it was when it gave you your chance.
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I always get the impression that even though the footballer has the final say they pretty much follow what the agent tells them.
There's a book out by an agent, I think called the deal, and it's meant to shine quite a bit of light on how it all works. Been meaning to get hold of a copy.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #444
fernandopartridge said:
What sort of agreement does a footballer sign with his agent? Who has the final say over where a footballer's future lies? The way its described, it's as if the agent tells the football who to sign for. I'd like to see players like Thomas repay their debt to the club by staying around, at least get the club back to where it was when it gave you your chance.
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The player will have final say but they seem to get their heads turned by agents telling them what they want to hear.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #445
The thing is though, footballers need to earn as much as possible as young as possible that's the way pro-football has gone unfortunately, If for example Thomas can secure a half million a year contract for 4 years that's 2 million quid less tax, how old is he ? 20/21 !! I got about 12 quid week at the Jag at that age. And agents generate the money rewards that's why player have them
 

robbiekeane

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #446
rupert_bear said:
I got about 12 quid week at the Jag at that age
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How much were houses back then
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #447
rupert_bear said:
The thing is though, footballers need to earn as much as possible as young as possible that's the way pro-football has gone unfortunately, If for example Thomas can secure a half million a year contract for 4 years that's 2 million quid less tax, how old is he ? 20/21 !! I got about 12 quid week at the Jag at that age. And agents generate the money rewards that's why player have them
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Not really true with the money players earn today.

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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #448
rupert_bear said:
The thing is though, footballers need to earn as much as possible as young as possible that's the way pro-football has gone unfortunately, If for example Thomas can secure a half million a year contract for 4 years that's 2 million quid less tax, how old is he ? 20/21 !! I got about 12 quid week at the Jag at that age. And agents generate the money rewards that's why player have them
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Depends if their motivation is to make money short term or to have a long successful career.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #449
It's always the debate that he could break his leg first game of the season for us and never play again only picking up a standard wage over the next couple years of his contract. If he broke his leg playing his first reserve game for a premier league side he could still set himself up for life.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #450
Surely any half-decent footballer would believe they'd have enough ability to get into the first team, anyway?
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #451
Deleted member 5849 said:
Surely any half-decent footballer would believe they'd have enough ability to get into the first team, anyway?
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Depends if they are realistic or not. Do you think Thomas will be first team at any premier league side?
 
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RoboCCFC90

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #452
IMO this situation has gone on for too long.

If he wants to stay with CCFC and blossom here, sign the contract.

If you want to move on, just do it.

If I was MR I would be putting a time frame on GT's contract offer.
 
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covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #453
after that checkatrade final he could become a real hero in cov folklore if he stays. imagine he was par tof cup winning and promotion team. he would be more well remembered than most!
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #454
mark82 said:
Depends if they are realistic or not. Do you think Thomas will be first team at any premier league side?
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He might be in a couple of seasons.

Definitely won't be if he's stuck with us, being converted to a right back, and is stagnating in our reserves.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 19, 2017
  • #455
Deleted member 5849 said:
He might be in a couple of seasons.

Definitely won't be if he's stuck with us, being converted to a right back, and is stagnating in our reserves.
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what makes you think we wont continue to have success with him from on field pov? i mean his progress not the teams. he did well 2nd half of season and under robins. that will continue if he stays
 
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