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  • Start date Apr 18, 2017
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Monners

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #246
Dunno yet - Greens, Lib Dem (more doubtful) or Labour.

Or - never thought I would think this - not bother.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #247
Monners said:
Dunno yet - Greens, Lib Dem (more doubtful) or Labour.

Or - never thought I would think this - not bother.
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I feel much the same way but will vote as it's against the vile May.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #248
Grendel said:
Well some people will vote for labour even if they had a cabbage from the local veg stall as the leader.

Well come to think about it
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And some people will vote Tory even if the leader promises to shaft them to the hilt.

Well come to think about it
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #249
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And some people will vote Tory even if the leader promises to shaft them to the hilt.

Well come to think about it
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In what way would you personally
Benefit from a labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn?

I would be financially far worse off and would seek to leave the country

As an aside would you have had the education you've benefited from under a Corbyn administration?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 26, 2017
  • #250
Grendel said:
In what way would you personally
Benefit from a labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn?

I would be financially far worse off and would seek to leave the country

As an aside would you have had the education you've benefited from under a Corbyn administration?
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I work in the public sector. Mrs May's party has seen fit to underfund it to the point where the service is being stretched to its maximum and where there have to be staff lay-offs despite increasing demand from an increasing population. A government investing in this rather than dismantling it would make my work easier and the quality of service for those using it better. It would be in my and the national interest for her to fund it properly rather than tell lies about a 'society for everyone'.

On my education-Corbyn hasn't called for scrapping private schools from what I can see.
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 27, 2017
  • #251
oucho said:
That is pathetic!
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I wouldn't mind but under a Labour government at the time, supported by the Labour Council etc - our rights were being constantly eroded by people like him.

Remember 'CV One'? -The councils subcontracted snooping department. A story was spoon fed to the local press to help hasten their demise.

Exclusive: Shocked visitors find porn link on CV One website
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #252
This Andy Street fella who is hammering the media and stuff for the West Midlands job.

Has anybody asked him for a picture yet thinking he is the Wealdstone Raider?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #253
Grendel said:
In what way would you personally
Benefit from a labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn?

I would be financially far worse off and would seek to leave the country

As an aside would you have had the education you've benefited from under a Corbyn administration?
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That's my mind made up. Corbyn all the way. I here New Zealand is nice.
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #254
Grendel said:
I would be financially far worse off and would seek to leave the country
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The Coventry Labour vote's just shot up.
 
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Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #255
Andrew Turner, Conservative MP for the Isle of Wight has just stood down after saying some nasty things about LBGT's! Thank god for that! He was a useless twat anyway!
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #256
Tony Blair said don't vote Labour, I expect that will make some do the opposite.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #257
Liquid Gold said:
Tony Blair said don't vote Labour, I expect that will make some do the opposite.
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7D chess from the master
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #258
Apparently there's more money going on Labour to win compared to the Tories now. After Trump, anything can happen.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 28, 2017
  • #259
The number crunchers have come up with a couple of interesting things this week:
For every 10 years older a voter is, their chance of voting Tory increases by around 8 per cent and the chance of them voting Labour decreases by 6 per cent.
If over 65s weren't allowed to vote it would be too close to call and likely a hung parliament with a virtually equal split between Labour and Conservative.

Labour missed a trick here. They should have been trying to mobilise the non voting under 40s. If they could have done that it would have balanced out the over 65s and been a close race. What we're likely to see is essentially a rerun of the referendum with the older generation turning out to vote and getting a result that the younger generation is opposed to.
 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #260
Sick Boy said:
Apparently there's more money going on Labour to win compared to the Tories now. After Trump, anything can happen.
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It's impossible to win the election for Labour even under a real leader unless they totally dominate Scotland.

Not happening now and never will again.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #261
Grendel said:
It's impossible to win the election for Labour even under a real leader unless they totally dominate Scotland.
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Do you mean this election or any election? They've won in England before in the not too distant past.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #262
chiefdave said:
Do you mean this election or any election? They've won in England before in the not too distant past.
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They won under the old boundary rules. In 2018 they change don't they?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #263
Eventually the Tories will run the country into the ground so much that they'll get voted out. The notion that May is a safe pair of hands is ridiculous, nearly as much as her self-proclaimed 'strong and stable leadership' bullshit.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #264
Sick Boy said:
Eventually the Tories will run the country into the ground so much that they'll get voted out. The notion that May is a safe pair of hands is ridiculous, nearly as much as her self-proclaimed 'strong and stable leadership' bullshit.
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Her incessant mention of that shows what a pre-programmed politician she is. Reminds me of when Ed Miliband couldn't stop repeating a phrase he had been told to say in an interview about strikes in London.
 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #265
Grendel said:
It's impossible to win the election for Labour even under a real leader unless they totally dominate Scotland.

Not happening now and never will again.
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The problem they've got in Bonnie Scotland of course is the realisation that the Blair/Brown Government did as little for Scotland as the Thatcher Government did, and they completely lost their heartland. I will be amazed if the political landscape changes at all over this election.

Its where the Labour 'right' argument falls disastrously down. To put it simply: the longer you have these people clinging on to the remains of New Labour, the longer its going to take Labour to rebuild themselves.

Labour members wanted change when they voted Corbyn in. All they've come up against so far is a brick wall from the career politicians whom have encased themselves in at the top of the party. I can see him carrying on after this election like Kinnock did to change the party.
 
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M&B Stand

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #266
Grendel said:
In what way would you personally
Benefit from a labour government led by Jeremy Corbyn?
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If you're on the dole/sick your benefits would go up.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #267
M&B Stand said:
If you're on the dole/sick your benefits would go up.
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If you were sick you wouldn't be left to die because you couldn't afford treatment.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #268
M&B Stand said:
If you're on the dole/sick your benefits would go up.
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paid for by the billions recuperated from the unpaid taxes of the tories corporate mates hopefully.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #269
My family normally vote labour , but for various reasons none of us will vote for Jeremy Corbyn ... That's the case for many people I'm afraid .
The results will show that
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #270
Evo1883 said:
My family normally vote labour , but for various reasons none of us will vote for Jeremy Corbyn ... That's the case for many people I'm afraid .
The results will show that
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Reasons like what? Would you prefer Mrs May at this point in time?
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #271
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Reasons like what? Would you prefer Mrs May at this point in time?
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100%
I trust May to deliver the Brexit I voted for , I do not trust Corbyn and a labour government to do the same.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #272
Evo1883 said:
100%
I trust May to deliver the Brexit I voted for , I do not trust Corbyn and a labour government to do the same.
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Christ. Hope you're ready for the carving up of the NHS and of the current social model.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #273
Evo1883 said:
I trust May to deliver the Brexit I voted for , I do not trust Corbyn and a labour government to do the same.
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That's certainly going well so far.
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #274
Sick Boy said:
Christ.
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Christ is short for I disagree with you .... The beauty of democracy
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #275
chiefdave said:
That's certainly going well so far.
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Long way to go , I believe the country will be better off in the long run , always knew it would be a bumpy ride to begin with .
Either way it's what I voted for , and that's how I'm voting in June .
Corbyn can get back to protesting with terrorists and holding student rallies
 
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Johnnythespider

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #276
I'm amazed at the number of people who seem to vote as if it were a presidential election, rather than looking at the policies that would be implemented by each party and deciding which way to vote. TBH even if it was a presidential election I would vote Corbyn over May any day of the week. Listening to people who have more than they need, whining about having to make do with a bit less, in order to give those who have too little a bit more is not going to persuade me to vote Tory. It looks very likely May will win without having to explain any of her plans, which is a shame, and says more about the electorate than anything else. I was watching some coverage of the election on BBC news the other day, they were asking Welsh people how they would vote, there was an old chap who had always voted Labour saying he was voting Tory whilst waving and saying "bye bye Corbyn", I thought replace Corbyn with NHS and he's got a point, hope he doesn't end up on a trolley in a hospital corridor.

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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #277
Evo1883 said:
Christ is short for I disagree with you .... The beauty of democracy
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I don't believe a lifelong Labour voter would vote for one the right wing Tory governments in recent history.

I don't like Corbyn but I am proud of the NHS and could never vote for a chancer like May
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #278
Sick Boy said:
I will never understand how su


I don't believe a lifelong Labour voter would vote for one the right wing Tory governments in recent history.
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Well believe it , my political stance has shifted in recent years ..I'm more centrist now but right leaning , used to be the opposite
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #279
Evo1883 said:
Well believe it , my political stance has shifted in recent years ..I'm more centrist now but right leaning , used to be the opposite
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Hahaha if you say so...
 

Evo1883

Well-Known Member
  • Apr 29, 2017
  • #280
Sick Boy said:
Hahaha if you say so...
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not quite sure what I've said that's funny , I've just told you how my political views have changed in recent years .
Is that an issue ? It happens to a lot of people
 
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