Astute
Well-Known Member
I would bet anything it will.
If you defended Corbyn you should defend this. But it won't happen because it isn't Labour this time.
we're about to have someone in government who met with Northern Irish paramilitaries. Watch the hypocrisy meter go off the scale
I would bet anything it will.we're about to have someone in government who met with Northern Irish paramilitaries. Watch the hypocrisy meter go off the scale
we're about to have someone in government who met with Northern Irish paramilitaries. Watch the hypocrisy meter go off the scale
They got 40% Tories 42.5%, so not really. UK Election Statistics: 1918-2017 - Commons Library briefing - UK ParliamentPercentage of the vote is one of the highest Labour have drawn in the past 35 years, too.
I was after a yes or no cvd. Whats your answer?
Yes a good result to what it could have been. But it could still have been much better.
But how can anyone be celebrating a good result when the Tories still came close to getting the majority with the pathetic election campaign they ran.
I would bet anything it will.
If you defended Corbyn you should defend this. But it won't happen because it isn't Labour this time.
I'm not so sure. Corbyn has energised millions of young people that would have stayed at home before. I think Corbyn wants to move the leadership to someone else but only after changing the rules of the party so that left wing candidates can become leader after him. My preference would be Clive Lewis. Similar politics to Corbyn but has served in Afghanistan and has no skeletons that the media can pick up on.But don't you agree that someone like Starmer would have done better?
No. Are the tories hypocrites seen as a member of their own party and an elected Councillor was in the provisional ira - yes or no.
Yes, really.They got 40% Tories 42.5%, so not really? UK Election Statistics: 1918-2017 - Commons Library briefing - UK Parliament
So, your earlier post about it not being current was bollocks then.
I'm not so sure. Corbyn has energised millions of young people that would have stayed at home before. I think Corbyn wants to move the leadership to someone else but only after changing the rules of the party so that left wing candidates can become leader after him. My preference would be Clive Lewis. Similar politics to Corbyn but has served in Afghanistan and has no skeletons that the media can pick up on.
Are you going to defend them like you defended Corbyn?Yeah but....yeah but...
Corbyn's links to the IRA don't count, but because the DUP are siding with the Tories, their links do.
Left wing mindset...
Corbyn's links were not good, and neither are these.
I believe the point is, that if the gutter press wish to focus on a distorted view of the past, they should be condemning May lining up with a party with links to paramilitaries, with added homophobia as a bonus.Corbyn's links to the IRA don't count, but because the DUP are siding with the Tories, their links do.
Left wing mindset...
Corbyn's links were not good, and neither are these.
Corbyn's links to the IRA don't count, but because the DUP are siding with the Tories, their links do.
Left wing mindset...
Corbyn's links were not good, and neither are these.
You could equally say the right sating don't vote Corbyn he has IRA links then linking up with actual Unionist nutters is staggering hypocrisy.Corbyn's links to the IRA don't count, but because the DUP are siding with the Tories, their links do.
Left wing mindset...
Corbyn's links were not good, and neither are these.
Labour need to pivot themselves to being the unionist party in Scotland. It's a no brainer for me, SNP will always be predisposed to work with Labour in Westminster so for the left to swipe up both sides of the independent debate is a no brainer.He would be strong but I would like to see a Scottish MP come to the fore so we have a shot at clawing back some of the 40 seats you could usually rely on. Ian Murray got a huge increase to his majority in Edinburgh, who knows.
Labour need to pivot themselves to being the unionist party in Scotland. It's a no brainer for me, SNP will always be predisposed to work with Labour in Westminster so for the left to swipe up both sides of the independent debate is a no brainer.
The hypocrisy for me is defending one to the hilt and then saying another one shouldn't be happening. You shouldn't think one is OK because it is the party you vote for. Your principles should be the same whatever.no one has said any of that. You're imagining things. We're simply pointing out the hypocrisy. Which is rife.
As much as they're a bunch of bible bashing nut jobs, I'm hopeful they'll keep the tories in check, which probably tells you how low my opinion of the tory party is.
No. It doesn't bother me. But seen as the tories made such a song and dance about corbyns links to Irish republicans isn't it hypocritical to have one as an elected councillor, yes or no?
He got the highest share of the vote for Labour since 2001 and more MPs than Brown or Miliband. Not bad for someone who was supposed to cause the annihilation of the party.
I agree. But, you can't all have it both ways. I'm seeing that Corbyn did a great job by losing and to quote "Not bad for someone who was supposed to cause the annihilation of the party" but also that May should resign and has been terrible etc etc and yet her figures are the highest polling results for the Conservatives for 25 years.
A few unhappy Little Englanders it seems.
She should resign for the simple fact that she called an unneccesary election to consolidate her 'power' and give her a mandate. Now she has neither.
One way or another she's toast. Every day she stays it will more push people towards Labour.
... in your opinion
I think she'll see Brexit through as her legacy (rightly or wrongly) and then we'll see a new leader and possibly another election. That could take 18 months to 2 years and can't be destabilised, so don't expect another election just yet.
A very unhappy person who has voted Labour all my life more like.A few unhappy Little Englanders it seems.
I agree. But, you can't all have it both ways. I'm seeing that Corbyn did a great job by losing and to quote "Not bad for someone who was supposed to cause the annihilation of the party" but also that May should resign and has been terrible etc etc and yet her figures are the highest polling results for the Conservatives for 25 years.
Don't say "It's over you lost, get over it"A few unhappy Little Englanders it seems.
Everybody lost. There were no winners.Don't say "It's over you lost, get over it"
The DUP probably wouldn't agree.Everybody lost. There were no winners.
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