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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,626
Ian1779 said:
The same Dan Hodges that told all his Twitter followers that he voted Conservative yesterday?
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Yes he voted conservative for the first time in his life having always voted labour.

He felt it was his duty to protect society and the economy from destruction.

You and the youth club should listen and learn from people like him.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,627
Grendel said:
The Mail employs a balanced range of journalists and columnists from all political spectrums.
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That can't be a serious comment.
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,628
Grendel said:
Yes he voted conservative for the first time in his life having always voted labour.

He felt it was his duty to protect society and the economy from destruction.

You and the youth club should listen and learn from people like him.
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The only thing to learn from him is how to be irrelevant and out of touch. The kids in the youth club will take control of their own destinies and make people like Dan and all your other heroes disappear into history as nothing more than an anecdotal point of reference.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,629
Ian1779 said:
The only thing to learn from him is how to be irrelevant and out of touch. The kids in the youth club will take control of their own destinies and make people like Dan and all your other heroes disappear into history as nothing more than an anecdotal point of reference.
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Are you a a bit upset that once again the country kicked the socialist agenda into touch.

It's funny how you refer to visions and being out of touch when defending a manifesto scripted from Jurassic park.
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,630
Grendel said:
Are you a a bit upset that once again the country kicked the socialist agenda into touch.

It's funny how you refer to visions and being out of touch when defending a manifesto scripted from Jurassic park.
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Jurrasic Park?!

Someone on social media just described the DUP manifesto as the old testament with fortnightly bin collections!
 
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Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,631
Grendel said:
Are you a a bit upset that once again the country kicked the socialist agenda into touch.

It's funny how you refer to visions and being out of touch when defending a manifesto scripted from Jurassic park.
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You have fun with your new terrorist friends..... that'll be a fine dinner party, with the Yemenis, and Saudis - fuck it you might as well just invite ISIS directly.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,632
Ian1779 said:
You have fun with your new terrorist friends..... that'll be a fine dinner party, with the Yemenis, and Saudis - fuck it you might as well just invite ISIS directly.
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In fairness Corbyn would have done that too...
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,633
Relying on the Christian fundamentalists of the DUP to get over the line, what a farce from Mrs May. Though I hope she stays in as long as possible, it's doing wonders for Labour. Now to see her deliver on shafting schools, hospitals and the elderly as promised.
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,634
why all the manual voting - surely time for electronic voting - could close polls at 10pm, and declare the result at 10.05
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,635
Grendel said:
Are you a a bit upset that once again the country kicked the socialist agenda into touch.

It's funny how you refer to visions and being out of touch when defending a manifesto scripted from Jurassic park.
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Corbyn narrowed a 20+ point gap to 3 in under 2 months. Talk about prehistoric manifesto commitments, shall we start with restoring grammar schools?
 
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Kingokings204

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,636
Is it fair to say the people have rejected all policy's and politics and parties?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,637
Kingokings204 said:
Is it fair to say the people have rejected all policy's and politics and parties?
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Or adversarial politics?
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,638
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Relying on the Christian fundamentalists of the DUP to get over the line, what a farce from Mrs May. Though I hope she stays in as long as possible, it's doing wonders for Labour. Now to see her deliver on shafting schools, hospitals and the elderly as promised.
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as mad as it sounds, the DUP might just help preserve the NHS and help the elderly. They're big on free health care and want the pension triple lock left in place.
They'll probably want creationism to replace the sciences in schools though!
 

Captain Dart

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,639
May has come to some sort of agreement with the DUP.
Give it a few weeks and the knives will be in her back.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,640
Kingokings204 said:
Is it fair to say the people have rejected all policy's and politics and parties?
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I think 72% of turn out among 18-25 year olds shows that not to be the case.
Big turn out for the EU referendum as well.

I think it shows people get involved when there's a clear choice.
When there's a rizla paper between the parties then they don't seem to bother.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,641
Captain Dart said:
May has come to some sort of agreement with the DUP.
Give it a few weeks and the knives will be in her back.
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Apparently it includes replacing all EU funding, wonder how long it'll be before Scotland and Wales ask for the same?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,642
Grendel said:
Yes he voted conservative for the first time in his life having always voted labour.

He felt it was his duty to protect society and the economy from destruction.

You and the youth club should listen and learn from people like him.
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Learn from someone who describes himself as "tribal neo-Blairite" and said "If UKIP break 6% at the next election I'll streak naked down Whitehall in a Nigel Farage mask whilst singing Land of Hope and Glory", has quite and rejoined the labour party several times depending which way the wind is blowing. Sounds very wishy washy and has his finger on the pulse about as much as you with your gleeful Corbyn will be decimated prediction that you made last night. No wonder you like him.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,643
Captain Dart said:
May has come to some sort of agreement with the DUP.
Give it a few weeks and the knives will be in her back.
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How long do you reckon before we are back at the polls?
 

Captain Dart

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,644
Ian1779 said:
How long do you reckon before we are back at the polls?
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Next February.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,645
Captain Dart said:
May has come to some sort of agreement with the DUP.
Give it a few weeks and the knives will be in her back.
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she'll be gone once the coalition government has been put in place,
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,646
Ian1779 said:
You have fun with your new terrorist friends..... that'll be a fine dinner party, with the Yemenis, and Saudis - fuck it you might as well just invite ISIS directly.
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Isis that's Corbyn territory. He'd have had Bin Laden round for tea and cake if he was still going strong.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,647
Grendel said:
You and the youth club should listen and learn from people like him.
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Grow up
 
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clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,648
Grendel said:
Isis that's Corbyn territory. He'd have had Bin Laden round for tea and cake if he was still going strong.
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you do know who funded bin laden in Afghanistan right?
I'll give you a clue, it wasn't Jeremy Corbyn.
 
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olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,649
Sick Boy said:
Assume those that were kept bringing up Corbyns alleged support of the IRA are appauled and will be equally vocal about the prospect of the Conservatives working with the DUP?
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If May attends the funerals of their killers, yep, I will.

Still find it odd that people excuse Corbyn's past with the IRA. Of course, if it had been May that had done those things, then I would bet good money those same people would be equally damning about her for having done it.

If he wasn't the Labour leader, they would have most probably got my vote. I have no idea how many people felt the same way about this issue with Corbyn, so hard to tell if he actually lost Labour the chance to Govern in this election.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,650
Grendel said:
Isis that's Corbyn territory. He'd have had Bin Laden round for tea and cake if he was still going strong.
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Last night's events have finally pushed you into the full parody of yourself. You're like a walking, talking Daily Mail.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,651
clint van damme said:
she'll be gone once the coalition government has been put in place,
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Cameron resigned on 24th Jun, May became leader on 11 July when Leadsom pulled out, otherwise there would have gone on to a members postal vote, which was strangely not scheduled till Sept! That could take some time.
 

Ian1779

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,652
olderskyblue said:
Still find it odd that people excuse Corbyn's past with the IRA. Of course, if it had been May that had done those things, then I would bet good money those same people would be equally damning about her for having done it.
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You mean like selling weapons to countries that fund ISIS?? How damning were you of her? How damning was the press?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,653
Ian1779 said:
You mean like selling weapons to countries that fund ISIS?? How damning were you of her? How damning was the press?
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Even you must surely now accept the hypothesis that the press can manipulate opinions of the public is a false one?
 
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Ashdown

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,654
The Labour kiddies are all jumping around like they won a majority. For some strange reason they attracted more of the substantial UKIP vote of 2015 than the Tories, that's all. I'm no fan of the Lib Dems but Nick Clegg's comments about MP's on all sides showing some solidarity on vital issues rather than inflaming those that they disagree on, were wise. The country takes one step forward and two steps back.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,655
Grendel said:
Even you must surely now accept the hypothesis that the press can manipulate opinions of the public is a false one?
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You dismiss Dan Hodges as someone that the youth could learn from then?
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,656
Grendel said:
Even you must surely now accept the hypothesis that the press can manipulate opinions of the public is a false one?
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You are right - they've been found out. It won't stop them trying though.

First rule of youth club - if you want to know the truth of something, go research and find it out for yourself.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,657
fernandopartridge said:
Grow up
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I can't I've morphed into Captain Dart overnight.
 

olderskyblue

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  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,658
Ian1779 said:
You mean like selling weapons to countries that fund ISIS?? How damning were you of her? How damning was the press?
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So, I guess you didn't vote for either of them then?
 
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westcountry_skyblue

Guest
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,659
A true Unionist Government,Every cloud......
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 9, 2017
  • #2,660
olderskyblue said:
If May attends the funerals of their killers, yep, I will.

Still find it odd that people excuse Corbyn's past with the IRA. Of course, if it had been May that had done those things, then I would bet good money those same people would be equally damning about her for having done it.

If he wasn't the Labour leader, they would have most probably got my vote. I have no idea how many people felt the same way about this issue with Corbyn, so hard to tell if he actually lost Labour the chance to Govern in this election.
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It's not about excusing Corbyn, it's about working out what threats are current and real.
I no longer worry about my family walking down the street and getting blown up by an IRA bomb.
I do worry about them getting attacked by some Islamic fundamentalist with a bomb, or with a lorry or whatever he can do the most damage with.
That's why we shouldn't be arming their sponsors, that's why we shouldn't be letting them out of the country to fight in Libya or Syria.
Next time a republican bomb goes off on the British mainland I might need to revise that train of thought but until it does I'll be more concerned with a repeat of the events in London and Manchester in recent weeks and the many fuck ups by May and her colleagues that helped contribute.
 
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