ccfc92
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Can I just ask, why Labour has so much anti-war, anti-conflict support when it was Labour who took us to the Iraq invasion?
Shout out to Michael Fallon - that was fucking comedy gold!!
That wasn't 'Labour', that was 'New Labour' under Tony Blair.Can I just ask, why Labour has so much anti-war, anti-conflict support when it was Labour who took us to the Iraq invasion?
It's where our system is flawed mind. Growing up, we had a very good local MP, but a Tory. So he stood up for local causes, but also contributed towards voting in national policies I'm opposed to. So should I have voted on his local impact, or his national one?As for who to vote for: here's a crazy idea - look at the actual people you are voting for to represent you and pick the one you like. You aren't voting for a PM, you're voting for a local rep.
That's bollocks - he said he condemned ALL bombings. If you can't understand what that means the issue is yours.
The same Jeremy Corbyn that announced he'd increase police officers, armed forces and commitment to military spending a week before the atrocity in Manchester?
The same Jeremy Corbyn who holds the record for voting against anti terrorist legislation in the House of Commons?
HAHAHAA! He said he condemned bombing in all forms. I'm happy to debate with reasonable people like Earlsdon but you're just an antagonistic prick.
Is there anything stopping Corbyn promising to increase anti-terror measures, then when PM not increasing them? How much of the pledges need to be fulfilled?
None. We know he's a bare faced liar by denying he met the IRA.
That's what is frustrating, he's being portrayed as some sort of moralist.
The reality is you get Maverick extreme politicians but normally they never make the front bench.
Corbyn and Mcdonnell have skeletons in their closet because they are hard left politicians who never ever intended to be a leader. They didn't care. Now they do and are trying to rewrite history. Corbyn also has clear anti semetic leanings due to his clear support for the terrorist organisation Hammas and has been friends with the radical Livingston who has a very strange Hitler obsession. McDonnell is just plain dangerous. In many democratic countries he'd have been removed from parliament and in some arrested for his past rhetoric.
They, like many radical would be extremist leaders, rely on the young vote as the young vote doesn't know what they truly stand for.
I make no apology for it. These people need obliterating at the polls. They are hard left class warriors who will bring the country to its knees. Austerity now will be luxury with these people in charge. The share index would collapse and tax rates will, as in the 70's, climb to 80% for some.
A touch misleading to say the least. If you drill down you will see there are multiple votes on the same bills and, with the benefit of hindsight, it seems Corbyn was correct.Is he the same Jeremy Corbyn who according to theyworkforyou.com, has not voted to strengthen laws against terror 56 times since 2001 and voted in favour just twice?
No doubt anyone who doesn't think Mandela was a terrorist is a sympathiser as well.
It's a known fact that this term 'sympathiser' in relation to Corbyn & the IRA is a media applied term surely?He was asked a question "will you condemn the IRA" why did he say no I condemn all bombings? As far as I'm aware Mr Corbyn has not ever attended funerals of Ulster Unionists has he?
Even Alan Johnson laughed on This Week when asked about it. It's a known fact Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser - if that sits well with you that's fine.
You'd take no prisoners at all would you? Just shoot them. Imagine how many more British lives would have been lost in conflicts around the world over time had that approach been taken by all sides? You would be happy with their blood on your hands?Really? Why was he arrested once at a rally in support of Patrick Magee, why did he campaign for better prison conditions for convicted IRA murderers, why did he attend the funeral of the dispicable Bobby Sands.
For someone who condemned all bombing he seemed awfully pally and supportive of well....bombers.
Why don't the many other countries with similar economic policies to those being proposed by Labour suffer the problems you suggest the UK would?It's starting to look very worrying. Noting here my prediction for the UK economy should Corbyn get in and push through his economic policies:
Why don't the many other countries with similar economic policies to those being proposed by Labour suffer the problems you suggest the UK would?
Sounds horrible. Someone should come up with a special phase for it. something like 'project fear' would do.It's starting to look very worrying. Noting here my prediction for the UK economy should Corbyn get in and push through his economic policies:
Immediately: GBP weakens against all currencies. Stock Market Crash - but utility companies don't fall - may even increase.
Medium Term: Higher inflation; Higher unemployment; gilt yields increase. National Debt versus GDP starts to become a real problem again.
Medium-Long term: Very high unemployment; tax goes up for everyone but especially for people earning more than, say £30k. Net immigration reduces dramatically; house price crash. Inflation 10% +. National debt out of control. Strikes constantly.
Labour lose the next three elections until another generation comes through who think that free stuff for everyone with the rich paying is a good idea.
Which is the argument of a defeated man
Thats based on a 15 point lead not a 5 point which was the poll being discussed. Not hard.
Thats based on a 15 point lead not a 5 point which was the poll being discussed. Not hard.
Which is correct. Isn't the Italian press similar to ours though in that it's mainly owned by the ruling elite.The press here in Italy have been having a bit of a laugh at May's blustering and u-turning. The general consensus is that she and her government are well out of their depth in relation to EU negotiations.
The press here in Italy have been having a bit of a laugh at May's blustering and u-turning. The general consensus is that she and her government are well out of their depth in relation to EU negotiations.
Wasn't Thatcher meeting with them in secret as well? I've laid flowers at the Garden of Rememberance in Dublin, I suppose I count as a terrorist sympathiser as well. France has a street named after Boby Sands, a whole nation of sympathisers as well!
It's starting to look very worrying. Noting here my prediction for the UK economy should Corbyn get in and push through his economic policies:
Immediately: GBP weakens against all currencies. Stock Market Crash - but utility companies don't fall - may even increase.
Medium Term: Higher inflation; Higher unemployment; gilt yields increase. National Debt versus GDP starts to become a real problem again.
Medium-Long term: Very high unemployment; tax goes up for everyone but especially for people earning more than, say £30k. Net immigration reduces dramatically; house price crash. Inflation 10% +. National debt out of control. Strikes constantly.
Labour lose the next three elections until another generation comes through who think that free stuff for everyone with the rich paying is a good idea.
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