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shmmeee · May 25, 2017

ccfc92 said:
I suppose, you may be right on the weed.

With the minimum wage, it'd only work if living costs remained the same, which would have to be enforced on employers. Otherwise you could be on £10 an hour, but bread is £3, a pint is £6, fuel £2/L etc

Why would the price of bread go up? Are you suggesting people on NMW have nothing to spend money on?

More money in people's pockets = more money spent on goods and services = more money in the economy = more jobs.

Obviously there's a limit but we are nowhere near it. Much like borrowing to invest really. We have an economy built around consumerism it'd be a good idea to have as many people as possible able to take part in it.

I agree that there are some stupid policies out there (funnily enough the absolute worst is from the party likely to win: banning encryption - both insane and impossible), but the two you've picked aren't them. Both would be workable and probably provide a significant boost to the economy.

As for who to vote for: here's a crazy idea - look at the actual people you are voting for to represent you and pick the one you like. You aren't voting for a PM, you're voting for a local rep.

ccfc92 · May 25, 2017

shmmeee said:
Why would the price of bread go up? Are you suggesting people on NMW have nothing to spend money on?

More money in people's pockets = more money spent on goods and services = more money in the economy = more jobs.

Obviously there's a limit but we are nowhere near it. Much like borrowing to invest really. We have an economy built around consumerism it'd be a good idea to have as many people as possible able to take part in it.

I agree that there are some stupid policies out there (funnily enough the absolute worst is from the party likely to win: banning encryption - both insane and impossible), but the two you've picked aren't them. Both would be workable and probably provide a significant boost to the economy.

As for who to vote for: here's a crazy idea - look at the actual people you are voting for to represent you and pick the one you like. You aren't voting for a PM, you're voting for a local rep.

Not at all, it's just an example. I could have used bread, milk, cakes, fuel, beer, TV's, cars....

Well if the minimum wage goes up, the cost of producing the wheat and flour goes up, the baker's wage goes up, the shop selling it offsets the costs to the consumer. Now, if the "big companies" took a hit on their huge profits, to offset the costs, it will work the MW being £10 an hour, but somehow I doubt that will be the case?

The only way people will be better off financially, is if wages rose and the cost of living remained the same. But this is very unrealistic as big companies won't want to take the hit, wouldn't you agree?

Otis · May 26, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
I've missed you

You need some more practise on your aim then.

Sick Boy · May 26, 2017

Tories' lead reduced to 5 points

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

Sick Boy said:
Tories' lead reduced to 5 points

5 point margin of error on that poll too. Means it could be anything between a 15 point Tory lead and a 5 point labour one.

clint van damme · May 26, 2017

If recent events have told us anything, it's that the polls are about as reliable as a 'Rolex' watch bought of a Balearic lucky man..

Philosoraptor · May 26, 2017

So, the latest poll of polls is in, which is always good to look at. I think its getting closer to assume there are going to be major changes in West Midlands Labour including their Coventry branch.

Is there such a thing as political redundancies for MPs and councillors of the right wing of the party or do they just get asked quietly to step down?

chiefdave · May 26, 2017

Philosorapter said:
Is there such a thing as political redundancies for MPs and councillors of the right wing of the party or do they just get asked quietly to step down?

If they lose at a general election they get a pretty decent package to adjust to non-Parliamentary life.

Ian1779 · May 26, 2017

Philosorapter said:
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Are we verging into 'hung parliament' territory?

Captain Dart · May 26, 2017

Ian1779 said:
Are we verging into 'hung parliament' territory?

No chance.

Grendel · May 26, 2017

Ian1779 said:
Are we verging into 'hung parliament' territory?

Lol

Grendel · May 26, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
You need another layer of tin foil you fucking nut job.

Id say a fucking nut job is someone who defends the bombing of innocent men, women and children on uk soil.

This week when asked if he condemned the IRA he said no.

Ian1779 · May 26, 2017

Grendel said:
Id say a fucking nut job is someone who defends the bombing of innocent men, women and children on uk soil.

This week when asked if he condemned the IRA he said no.

That's bollocks - he said he condemned ALL bombings. If you can't understand what that means the issue is yours.

Ian1779 · May 26, 2017

Captain Dart said:
No chance.

Straight out LAB majority then... nice one!

Grendel · May 26, 2017

Ian1779 said:
That's bollocks - he said he condemned ALL bombings. If you can't understand what that means the issue is yours.

He was asked a question "will you condemn the IRA" why did he say no I condemn all bombings? As far as I'm aware Mr Corbyn has not ever attended funerals of Ulster Unionists has he?

Even Alan Johnson laughed on This Week when asked about it. It's a known fact Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser - if that sits well with you that's fine.

Ian1779 · May 26, 2017

Grendel said:
He was asked a question "will you condemn the IRA" why did he say no I condemn all bombings? As far as I'm aware Mr Corbyn has not ever attended funerals of Ulster Unionists has he?

Even Alan Johnson laughed on This Week when asked about it. It's a known fact Corbyn was an IRA sympathiser - if that sits well with you that's fine.

So the word ALL is not good enough for you?

Terrorism doesn't sit well with anyone - for you to suggest that Corbyn defended the killing of innocent people is nonsense.

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Apparently, Diane Abbott is making herself look silly again today.

Grendel · May 26, 2017

Ian1779 said:
So the word ALL is not good enough for you?

Terrorism doesn't sit well with anyone - for you to suggest that Corbyn defended the killing of innocent people is nonsense.

Really? Why was he arrested once at a rally in support of Patrick Magee, why did he campaign for better prison conditions for convicted IRA murderers, why did he attend the funeral of the dispicable Bobby Sands.

For someone who condemned all bombing he seemed awfully pally and supportive of well....bombers.

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

Grendel said:
Id say a fucking nut job is someone who defends the bombing of innocent men, women and children on uk soil.

This week when asked if he condemned the IRA he said no.

HAHAHAA! He said he condemned bombing in all forms. I'm happy to debate with reasonable people like Earlsdon but you're just an antagonistic prick.

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Theresa May puts terror at heart of election by accusing Jeremy Corbyn of blaming Britain

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

ccfc92 said:
Theresa May puts terror at heart of election by accusing Jeremy Corbyn of blaming Britain

The same Jeremy Corbyn that announced he'd increase police officers, armed forces and commitment to military spending a week before the atrocity in Manchester?

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Didn't realise how old Corbyn is, 68 today!

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
The same Jeremy Corbyn that announced he'd increase police officers, armed forces and commitment to military spending a week before the atrocity in Manchester?

Didn't he previously say he'd cut back on military spending? May be wrong.

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

ccfc92 said:
Didn't he previously say he'd cut back on military spending? May be wrong.

He may have said it before but the labour manifesto commits to an increase in armed forces.

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
He may have said it before but the labour manifesto commits to an increase in armed forces.

Odd that an anti-war protester would increase armed forces?

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

ccfc92 said:
Odd that an anti-war protester would increase armed forces?

Armed forces don't necessarily have to be used for war. They can be used for peace keeping and I think that's the sort of role JC has in mind.

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
Armed forces don't necessarily have to be used for war. They can be used for peace keeping and I think that's the sort of role JC has in mind.

You're right, but an increase in military spending on an army that won't be used? Seem's a waste of public funds, surely?

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

ccfc92 said:
You're right, but an increase in military spending on an army that won't be used? Seem's a waste of public funds, surely?

Our army is under equipped. Equiping then properly in preparation to defend innocent people and prevent conflict is what I think a modern professional armed forces should be used for.

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
Our army is under equipped. Equiping then properly in preparation to defend innocent people and prevent conflict is what I think a modern professional armed forces should be used for.

Completely agree.

But surely defending innocent people leads to conflict?

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

ccfc92 said:
Completely agree.

But surely defending innocent people leads to conflict?

It depends to what degree. I think we need to use the balklands in the 90s as a model. Use armed forces to protect civilians and engage when hastily forces try and interrupt.

I'm going to stop now 92 I've had a drink and I don't want to be a prick. Have a good evening mate.

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Liquid Gold said:
It depends to what degree. I think we need to use the balklands in the 90s as a model. Use armed forces to protect civilians and engage when hastily forces try and interrupt.

I'm going to stop now 92 I've had a drink and I don't want to be a prick. Have a good evening mate.

No, that's fair enough. We don't know the answers, we are all human after all.

Same here, just wish the the world could get on and have a drink!

Sick Boy · May 26, 2017

Grendel said:
Id say a fucking nut job is someone who defends the bombing of innocent men, women and children on uk soil.

This week when asked if he condemned the IRA he said no.

You described the soldiers involved in Bloody Sunday as doing their job the other week...

Liquid Gold · May 26, 2017

ccfc92 said:
No, that's fair enough. We don't know the answers, we are all human after all.

Same here, just wish the the world could get on and have a drink!

Ian1779 · May 26, 2017

Shout out to Michael Fallon - that was fucking comedy gold!!

ccfc92 · May 26, 2017

Ian1779 said:
Shout out to Michael Fallon - that was fucking comedy gold!!

But he was left dumbfounded when he found out they were actually words from an article by Boris in 2005.

Tory slates 'Jeremy Corbyn quote' - then awkwardly realises who actually said it

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