Well yeah, they can pledge as much as they like since there's zero chance of them having to honour the pledge.Looks like they will pledge to scrap tuition fees as well.
I still don't understand thor voters who have raged about the elite are now preparing to vote for the Tories.
Because they are the only party offering the brexit voted for last June. Even then I still fear it will be fudged. Labour don't have a policy on brexit as every labour candidate says something different even Corbyn doesn't know what to do with brexit if he is voted PM. Lib dems and that cretinous irk farron wants a second referendum and stop Brexit. Very democratic of him.
Not really a lot of options if you voted a genuine brexit is there?
I am voting Tory for the first time based purely on brexit. It's the single biggest factor on who to vote for in this particular election whether you like it or not. I will Probably never vote for them again.
The brexit voted for? I don't remember getting any options on what brexit we were having just a yes or no.Because they are the only party offering the brexit voted for last June.
Does anyone know what the best result is for the country? I don't think anyone can answer that reallyThe brexit voted for? I don't remember getting any options on what brexit we were having just a yes or no.
Do you really think any other party would totally ignore the result of the referendum? At most you'd get a second vote, most likely at a point at which we know significantly more about the deal on offer than at the last vote. Or is it that you don't want any chance of a second vote as the result may be different?
So far there is zero indication that May is up to the job or that the Conservatives have a plan on how to achieve the best result for the country.
Does anyone know what the best result is for the country? I don't think anyone can answer that really
It my fear that the combination of Brexit and a large Tory majority will ensure that the NHS is finally taken apart.
With regards to Brexit, if I voted for it there is no way I would trust May on that at all. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if she opted for a soft Brexit or if her no deal is better than a bad deal rhetoric would involve staging in the EU.
Corbyn was always eurosceptic up until the referendum, May wasn't! I also thought that TF wanted a referendum on the final deal, not the actual vote?
Because they are the only party offering the brexit voted for last June.
Imagine - public services funded and managed for the benefit of the public and not private companies. What a dreadful thought.
Imagine - public services funded and managed for the benefit of the public and not private companies. What a dreadful thought.
The country voted for Brexit - there was no discussion on the deal.
It won't matter anyway because the 'deal' will be decided by the EU 27 - not the one leaving sticking 2 fingers up at everyone as it walks out the door.
It my fear that the combination of Brexit and a large Tory majority will ensure that the NHS is finally taken apart.
With regards to Brexit, if I voted for it there is no way I would trust May on that at all. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if she opted for a soft Brexit or if her no deal is better than a bad deal rhetoric would involve staging in the EU.
Corbyn was always eurosceptic up until the referendum, May wasn't! I also thought that TF wanted a referendum on the final deal, not the actual vote?
For once we actually agree and I like your post. I actually trust TM well as much as I can do and I have to because as I said she is the only party leader clear on what brexit means and she is going to go for it.i have to vote for them really. Blackmail perhaps? But you know what if she cocks it up then in 5 years when we can see the good or damage she has brought us I can vote for someone else. That's what I like to it.
To me brexit is very simple. And I get you don't like brexit and you voted remain heavily but brexit is happening so we all need her to get the best "deal" for Britain as we all live here except Martcov. (Sure he mentioned he lives in Germany) :happy:
Well at the moment my euros are going further because of brexit, so I'm happy on that front. The UK economy is actually showing first signs of faltering because of the uncertainty. Things were looking up as an EU state, but some ( 45% the UK at the last poll ) seem to be overly optimistic about the effects of Brexit. House prices are alreday falling in the south and the outlook on house prices is "flat" - although there is a high demand. People's pockets are being squeezed as inflation starts to take effect.
I see it as a lose lose situation for both sides - UK and EU. May help Trump to get good trade deals out of both of us, and Vlad may put pressure on the EU to get them to drop sanctions and accept that moving borders in Europe without consent is allowed/ tolerated again. That doesn't help our geographical region much though.
Very good overviews coming from the House of Commons Library and Houses of Parliament:That is interesting - what research is that? Who commissioned it? While you are looking can you explain why many "left wing" politicians and their offspring use selected education?
Ah well...errr...good luck. You deserve all you getIt will be high on my consideration list and ahead of all those you mention yes
See fox hunting is no different to pheasant hunting, rabbit trapping, faloneering etc. Just a bit more barbaric & unpleasant to watch in my mind. But on the list of priorities I would place it much further down the listI wonder if our apolitical Royal Family are supportive of fox hunting? As toffs go, they don't come much toffier than the Royals. My interest was sparked by a recent report claiming that Prince Charles arrived at the Palace one evening with a curled up vixen on top of his head. When asked by Prince Phillip why this was so, he replied "Well Papa, at breakfast this morning I was asked by dearest Mama what my plans were for the day. I said that I was going to Sunderland to open a plastics factory. To which she replied 'Sunderland? Wear the fox hat'."
Right, back to the serious debate.
she is the only party leader clear on what brexit means
Soft and hard brexit is made up by the remain side to muddy the waters and keep Britain locked in to the ruinous single market which seems to be a favourite of theirs. And we all know why.
Indeed, May is increasingly showing herself to be completely vacuous. I voted leave but I don't genuinely believe she has any real idea of what Brexit might mean.'Brexit means Brexit', yeah couldn't get much clearer pal
Indeed, May is increasingly showing herself to be completely vacuous. I voted leave but I don't genuinely believe she has any real idea of what Brexit might mean.
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Question: do you think people voted Remain to inflict damage on their own country, as you are suggesting? Versus those who voted for a pledge on the side of a bus spearheaded by someone who wrote articles in favour of both sides before making a political calculation?
She campaigned against it and I don't think many in the Tory party expected it to happen, so were left unprepared. BoJo assumed he would go down as a gallant loser and boost his succession prospects, as did Gove. Cameron thought it would be a formality for Remain and punted millions on leaflets to support it.
Then we are supposed to believe that this is the party that knows what it's doing.
Fair points but that's how out of touch policticans are. They didn't know and care about communities being destroyed in Midlands and northern towns. About jobs and houses also. It's all londoncentric. Sure you agree with that.
Whether you like it or not and I know you don't but we (UK) voted for brexit. It's happening. If you don't like it then vote lib dems. They want a second referendum.
No of course i don't think that.
Oh you mean the voters for remain when the chancellor who said there would be an emergency budget and an immediate recession? House prices would fall overnight?
Look by playing silly games of who lied the most is a zero sum game. I've just gave you three lies from the remain side and you gave the bus bus pledge from leave. Both sides majorly lied. We know that now. Most of us knew it at time.
I don't really get your point.
You said we had a desire to 'lock Britain into the single market'. Looks to me you think we were hoping to damage the country by our vote.
Wrong. I am making the point the single market is very good for certain people and their desire to stay in it is for obvious reasons. I'm talking about big business and big policticans who do very well out the single market. unfortunately for small business and people trying to make a way in the world like me as a small business owner and create competition they simply can't compete with all the rules and regs of the single market and therefore can't compete so whilst the big multinationals have to do all this also they can actually afford it and do it meaning their competition is squeezed out. Suits them. De regulating means more people and more small businesses can compete and actually create competition on items such as electrical goods, domestic products and services.
Fair points but that's how out of touch policticans are. They didn't know and care about communities being destroyed in Midlands and northern towns. About jobs and houses also. It's all londoncentric. Sure you agree with that.
Whether you like it or not and I know you don't but we (UK) voted for brexit. It's happening. If you don't like it then vote lib dems. They want a second referendum.
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