oucho
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My question is, is it a trend at all?
My question is, is it a trend at all?Its got to be fun finding out what has destabilised Labour more. The leader, as the Labour right insists, or the Labour right trying to get one of their own back into the reigns of power in Labour.
Its an interesting turnaround over the last few days now that the Labour right have gone silent. The question is though, as been rightly pointed out, will the trend continue?
My question is, is it a trend at all?
Wilson has been dead for 22 years this month, I doubt he has much of an opinion on polling "trends" from the last week or two.Harold Wilson thought so. He said a week is a long time in politics.
I'm talking about the opposition which strangely you appear reticent on discussing.
I've already stated numerous times that I have little faith in them but they are no worse than the current government...for some reason you are reluctant to discuss them
For those talking up a "trend towards Labour" in the last few polls (which I argue above couldn't yet be called a 'trend' at all)....2 polls out tonight:
YouGov, for tomorrow's Times:
CON: 48% (+4) LAB: 29% (-2) LDEM: 10% (-1) UKIP: 5% (-1)
Kantar (formerly TNS):
CON: 48% (+2) LAB: 24% (-) LDEM: 11% (-) UKIP: 7% (-1)
Tory leads of 19% and 24% - I doubt this will last but all things being even, you'd expect a double-digit lead on polling day. The only thing I can see undoing this for May now is the CPS announcement on prosecution of Tories for expenses declarations at the last election. But on these numbers and with JC as the alternative, the Tory lead looks bomb-proof even against that.
If, as some have predicted, Labour lose hundreds of seats tomorrow in the council elections and also lose the mayoralty votes in West Midlands and Tees Valley, there may well be calls for a last-ditch resignation of JC and a temporary leader being installed to take them through the election.
I hope they last and I hope it's a crushing majority for the Conservatives. I've now decided I will vote Conservative for the second time in general ejections. It's pathetic to even suggest a Corbyn led party has the remotest hope of forming a government. This clueless rabble needs destroying so that a sensible opposition can begin again
It's a shame that gaffs like this are headlines in the media, jumped on by the opposition, and stick in the mind of voters. I'd rather the media investigate weather the actual sums are right, rather then the berk delivering the message. On 5 live, yes the numbers do add up ... but only if you look at salaries, and ignore the cost of equipping extra coppers.
Most people are alert enough to look deeper, but others are easily swayed. Too many times the soundbites are making the news, not the issues.
We will all we weeping by 2020I hope they last and I hope it's a crushing majority for the Conservatives. I've now decided I will vote Conservative for the second time in general ejections. It's pathetic to even suggest a Corbyn led party has the remotest hope of forming a government. This clueless rabble needs destroying so that a sensible opposition can begin again
They are a lot worse. Regardless of opinions on Chairman May and her politics (she's really rather a feeble liberal despite her silly posturing) no one can seriously argue a front bench of "ourselves alone" McDonnell, the sneering elitist Thornberry and the ultimate laughing stock Abbott headed up by a dithering clueless Corbyn would do anything other than turn the country into a chaotic banana republic.
And this is why I have not botheredAnybody voting in the mayoral election? I don't live in the West Midlands but there is one in Greater Manchester. As these posts are supposedly something similar to the Mayor of London, the amount of coverage is embarrassing.
The West Midlands ones are so Birmingham-centric too, thanks Coventry City Council for forcing the city into this.
Today will be the first election in 30 years I haven't voted in. Due to stuff I didn't sort out a postal vote.
Hope to be able to be out for the general election.
And this is why I have not bothered
i think the fact that its now greater Birmingham means we are going to get shafted no matter what...Because you're happy with whoever you get?
Someone should've run on a "get rid of the WMCA" ticket, they'd probably have won.
Seems to be taking a long time to count the votes for what looks like a very low turnout.i think the fact that its now greater Birmingham means we are going to get shafted no matter what...
Seems to be taking a long time to count the votes for what looks like a very low turnout.
Maybe the numbers arnt working for them?Seems to be taking a long time to count the votes for what looks like a very low turnout.
Looks like a higher turnout in Solihull than elsewhere has pulled the Conservative candidate back into it. Its being said that the higher turnout in Solihull is over 65s but I can't trace that back to where it was originally sourced from.Looks like the Labour non-entity will win, he is ahead after 1st round in Coventry & Wolverhampton. :emoji_disappointed:
I don't think it doesn't matters which way it goes now with the turnout so low - should the experiment continue?
76% of the electorate in Coventry not wishing to cast their vote for a mayor. The WMCA project is probably dead in the water even before a mayor is announced.
How can you transfer more powers to this flailing scheme?
Should the scheme have the powers it has in the first place?
I hope they last and I hope it's a crushing majority for the Conservatives. I've now decided I will vote Conservative for the second time in general ejections. It's pathetic to even suggest a Corbyn led party has the remotest hope of forming a government. This clueless rabble needs destroying so that a sensible opposition can begin again
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