Sick Boy
Super Moderator
It really is beyond parody.
Totally agree with this. Abbot is a nightmare and she's messed this interview up royally but it gives a prime example of the issues with bias in the media. The interview in question was preceded by 6 others where she correctly quoted the figures as this plan has been fully costed.
Compare the attention this is getting with one of May's rare interview on Sunday where she had no answer to why poverty was rising or nurses needing to use food banks.
Today she's in Cornwall, interesting following the live feed from the local paper:
Maybe if Labour just told everyone to go around parroting 'strong and stable leadership' we'd be better off. May even gave that answer to a question about Cornwall's health,social care and education sector today!
I went to Woodway Park,My Dad was caretaker there for years!!Every public service worker I've ever known has wanted to do a decent job. Be given the tools for the job and trusted to get on with it. And be paid enough to support their family (like anyone else).
Right wingers have a very blinkered view of the world. I saw it when Bob Edmiston took over Woodway Park as Grace Academy. He thought you needed a cut throat environment and pay incentives for teachers to do their job, but that shows a complete misunderstanding of public sector work. Just like many lefties don't fully understand finance for example, the right really don't get working for something other than a pay cheque. The idea of collaboration is just alien to them.
Carers are the ones that really get me. Look after the most vulnerable yet paid peanuts and treated like shit.
My kingdom for a nationalised social care system.
It really is beyond parody.
What is? The hypocrite Abbott who preaches about education equality but chose private education for her child and who is only in the cabinet as she shagged Corbyn in the back of his camper van?
Yep, Abbot is useless and shouldn't be anywhere near the shadow cabinet but let's not spend everything is rosy the other side of the commons. Where is the outcry at the numbers of ministers complicit in the dismantling of the NHS having personal interests in private healthcare firms. A more serious matter that points to the oligarchical nature of our democracy rather that a few misquoted figures.Abbot is a disaster but if Corbyn was taking the same approach as May you'd be among the first to criticise him.
Abbot is a disaster but if Corbyn was taking the same approach as May you'd be among the first to criticise him.
Yes, you'd surely be able to do an instantaneous sense check as you're about to say something like that. She's a fucking buffoon, lacking in intellect, humility and any sort of a clue whatsoever.6 rehearsals, and still got it so badly wrong? So it's just her memory that's at fault then?
Agree they all make errors, but I thought one this bad was worth a mention.
It's a shame that gaffs like this are headlines in the media, jumped on by the opposition, and stick in the mind of voters. I'd rather the media investigate weather the actual sums are right, rather then the berk delivering the message. On 5 live, yes the numbers do add up ... but only if you look at salaries, and ignore the cost of equipping extra coppers.
Most people are alert enough to look deeper, but others are easily swayed. Too many times the soundbites are making the news, not the issues.
The bar isn't set very high at the moment with Boris Johnson!
Which will be why this from the Tory side has received as much publicity today as Abbot. oh hang on, it hasn't.Unfortunately, when you have a high profile figure make such an awful hash of a very basic question "how much will this policy cost?" then that will always become the story, and rightly so, because all politicians need to appear credible and not just say policies that make sense of themselves.
Which will be why this from the Tory side has received as much publicity today as Abbot. oh hang on, it hasn't.
He isn't a senior member of the party who would be a major front bench politician is he?
Compared to Emily the bar is as high as Mount Everest.
Let's look at dear old John "ourselves alone" McDonnell. How will the global markets view John as Chancellor of the Exchequer? Safe pair of hands do we think?
The current government is a long way from being a safe pair of hands. May is full of slogans that amount to very little substance.
Is it normal for a potential PM to have journalists locked in a room so that they cannot film her?
According to the BBC's chief Tory promoter Laura Kuenssberg - the amount of public appearances that May and Corbyn have made is equal.Is it normal for a potential PM to have journalists locked in a room so that they cannot film her? Surely she should be open to the press and public, this is not a dictatorship.
So why is he on the main public broadcasting channel talking about their policies?He isn't a senior member of the party who would be a major front bench politician is he?
Exactly.
Labour are pushing Abbott as one of their main spokespeople. But not only does she
A) talk tripe
and
B) sound thick
(neither of which are unique amongst politicians by any means)
She has this way of speaking which implies that she thinks the interviewer is VERY VERY STUPID. She speaks to Ferrari in the interview, and I've seen her do it with many others including Andrew Neill, as if the thinks the interviewer is a tiny child that needs to have obvious things explained to them very simply and slowly. It's arrogant and it reinforces her image as an entirely un-self aware, petulant buffoon. If she really is Labour's best media performer that probably explains why they are 19% behind after 7 years of unpopular Tory rule.
I don't know that she would, neither are particularly quick on their feet. Could, in fact, be votes lost to the Liberals she's more worried about, mind.It's a pity May isn't prepared to take Corbyn on in the TV debates, she'd more than likely win most of the arguements,
I'll hold my horses in that poll if the trend continues in a couple of weeks then things could get exciting.The BBC showed an interesting poll recently.
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If Labour continues to rise like this then I can see a lot of leading Labour figures who organised and participated in a mass resignation will gradually be asked to step down.
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Not as much of a recovery if you use a different, but equally valid, methodology behind the graph.
I agree interesting but... actually possible to find out?Its got to be fun finding out what has destabilised Labour more. The leader, as the Labour right insists, or the Labour right trying to get one of their own back into the reigns of power in Labour.
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