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shmmeee

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,276
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Don't talk about yourself like that!

Do you think he did?
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I dunno. Probably, it fits his character and he’s been avoiding it which is usually a fair indicator of guilt. I think he’s done far worse though and it’s just one straw on the camels back so not too bothered either way.

Obviously someone suggesting King Boris is anything but the greatest man who ever lived upsets you though. And for that I enjoy it
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,277
Ian1779 said:
Let’s see how this plays out....
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While I’d love to believe that tactical voting will somehow stop a Tory majority, it’s looking increasingly like instead the Lib Dem’s are going to let the Tories through all over the place.

We are at the 5 points off the playoffs with two games to go “we can still make it” stage I’m afraid.

More worrying is I’m already seeing the vultures circling on the right of Labour, rubbing their hands with glee at the idea of getting rid of Corbyn. Leaving us with three right wing parties to vote for. Where next for the left?
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,278
shmmeee said:
While I’d love to believe that tactical voting will somehow stop a Tory majority, it’s looking increasingly like instead the Lib Dem’s are going to let the Tories through all over the place.

We are at the 5 points off the playoffs with two games to go “we can still make it” stage I’m afraid.

More worrying is I’m already seeing the vultures circling on the right of Labour, rubbing their hands with glee at the idea of getting rid of Corbyn. Leaving us with three right wing parties to vote for. Where next for the left?
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Revolt
 
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Ian1779

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,279
shmmeee said:
While I’d love to believe that tactical voting will somehow stop a Tory majority, it’s looking increasingly like instead the Lib Dem’s are going to let the Tories through all over the place.

We are at the 5 points off the playoffs with two games to go “we can still make it” stage I’m afraid.

More worrying is I’m already seeing the vultures circling on the right of Labour, rubbing their hands with glee at the idea of getting rid of Corbyn. Leaving us with three right wing parties to vote for. Where next for the left?
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I think that turnout for this election is again being seriously underplayed. Voter registrations again could be crucial - supposedly in excess of 1.5 million new voters since election called, and still 8 days to go.

EDIT: It’s actually 1.78 million
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,280
shmmeee said:
While I’d love to believe that tactical voting will somehow stop a Tory majority, it’s looking increasingly like instead the Lib Dem’s are going to let the Tories through all over the place.

We are at the 5 points off the playoffs with two games to go “we can still make it” stage I’m afraid.

More worrying is I’m already seeing the vultures circling on the right of Labour, rubbing their hands with glee at the idea of getting rid of Corbyn. Leaving us with three right wing parties to vote for. Where next for the left?
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Keir Starmer. Corbyn's shitting of the Brexit bed will gift Porky a comfy majority.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,281
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Keir Starmer. Corbyn's shitting of the Brexit bed will gift Porky a comfy majority.
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Privately educated Oxford Graduate... Labour would lose all their voters (especially some of you chaps on SBT) wouldn't they? And his changing position on Brexit (there may be other issues I don't know about) would not leave you convinced to vote for him either I guess... we just cannot be sure what his position will be next week on Brexit.
But as he is a Labour Toff instead of a Tory Toff, even doing all the same old shit, I suppose it doesn't matter eh?

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shmmeee

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,282
Ian1779 said:
I think that turnout for this election is again being seriously underplayed. Voter registrations again could be crucial - supposedly in excess of 1.5 million new voters since election called, and still 8 days to go.

EDIT: It’s actually 1.78 million
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Happens every election just from demographics.

2017: How many people are registering to vote?

2015: Vote registration 'breaks records'
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,283
SkyblueBazza said:
Privately educated Oxford Graduate... Labour would lose all their voters (especially some of you chaps on SBT) wouldn't they? And his changing position on Brexit (there may be other issues I don't know about) would not leave you convinced to vote for him either I guess... we just cannot be sure what his position will be next week on Brexit.
But as he is a Labour Toff instead of a Tory Toff, even doing all the same old shit, I suppose it doesn't matter eh?

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Starmer is a blank slate. He’s been cagey with his politics so everyone assumes they share it.

I like him, he’s served under Corbyn so could possibly be open to left wing policies. But just as easily could be captured by the geniuses behind trying to make Miliband “tuss enough”.

You misunderstand the lefts issues with the likes of Johnson and Mogg, it’s a born to rule attitude and politics that perpetuate it, not the fact they went to private school or Oxbridge. The fact they lived a sheltered life is just more grist to the mill, Starmer for example has spent his life working in criminal justice fighting for human rights, Corbyn has been a life long anti racism and anti war campaigner, Johnson and Mogg are most famous for burning £50 notes in front of poor people and pretending it’s the 1800s before entering politics.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 18, 2019
  • #2,284
SkyblueBazza said:
Privately educated Oxford Graduate... Labour would lose all their voters (especially some of you chaps on SBT) wouldn't they? And his changing position on Brexit (there may be other issues I don't know about) would not leave you convinced to vote for him either I guess... we just cannot be sure what his position will be next week on Brexit.
But as he is a Labour Toff instead of a Tory Toff, even doing all the same old shit, I suppose it doesn't matter eh?

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I don't care about the individual's education but the policies they support and any skeletons in the closet that could be used against him. He has been in Corbyn's shadow cabinet long enough to suggest he is on side with progressive policy positions and his personal record is pretty untainted. We could delve into Johnson's essays for and against Brexit before he decided which would get him the keys to No.10, if you like...
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,285
shmmeee said:
What are you on about?

Can we just invent each other’s positions now?
Can’t believe you’re for killing of all babies named Alan and forcing all black lesbians to wear chainmail. Ridiculous positions.
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You tell me which part you didn't say and I will shiw you where you said it. And you making stupid quotes like this won't change what you have said.

You have some right crackpot ideas that won't work. Some of them a are the ideas mentioned by Labour like finishing off private schools saying that it would benefit state schools yet can't come out with a single truthful reason why.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,286
shmmeee said:
Leaving us with three right wing parties to vote for. Where next for the left?
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Less crackpot ideas which are then affordable? A leader in opposition that doesn't make someone like Boris look a goid alternative? A leader that doesn't bring very close friends from many years ago to run Labour and puts in place the best people for the job?
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,287
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't care about the individual's education but the policies they support and any skeletons in the closet that could be used against him. He has been in Corbyn's shadow cabinet long enough to suggest he is on side with progressive policy positions and his personal record is pretty untainted. We could delve into Johnson's essays for and against Brexit before he decided which would get him the keys to No.10, if you like...
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Don't you mean you don't mind about a persons private education if they are Labour, but if they are a Tory it is a very good reason to have a go at them?

I said about Starmer for Labour leader a few years ago and got shot down saying all kinds of crap. Now reality is hitting home it is a different matter. How unusual.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,288
Astute said:
Don't you mean you don't mind about a persons private education if they are Labour, but if they are a Tory it is a very good reason to have a go at them?

I said about Starmer for Labour leader a few years ago and got shot down saying all kinds of crap. Now reality is hitting home it is a different matter. How unusual.
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And yet, I also said I would be open to him as leader as well.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,289
Brighton Sky Blue said:
And yet, I also said I would be open to him as leader as well.
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What about the part where Tories are privileged to go to Oxbridge?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,290
Where's this privately educated coming from? He passed his 11+ and went to a grammar school that was state funded when he went there. Are we talking before 11?

I've checked and can't find his primary school, but his siblings all bogged off to the local comp.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,291
Astute said:
What about the part where Tories are privileged to go to Oxbridge?
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Their choice of university matters less than their general background. Mind you, I went somewhere similar.
 

shmmeee

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,292
Astute said:
You tell me which part you didn't say and I will shiw you where you said it. And you making stupid quotes like this won't change what you have said.

You have some right crackpot ideas that won't work. Some of them a are the ideas mentioned by Labour like finishing off private schools saying that it would benefit state schools yet can't come out with a single truthful reason why.
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Please show me where I say everyone should earn the same.

To be honest I’m getting a little sick of your mental outbursts and constantly calling people liars. You’re like an overly emotional girlfriend at times.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,293
Furious caller brutally corrects Damian Green on Boris Johnson's "lies" - LBC
Couldn’t lay straight in bed.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,294
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Their choice of university matters less than their general background. Mind you, I went somewhere similar.
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So what background is it OK to go to Oxbridge from then?

And how many go from this background?

Which background did Bliar come from?
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,295
Deleted member 5849 said:
Where's this privately educated coming from? He passed his 11+ and went to a grammar school that was state funded when he went there. Are we talking before 11?

I've checked and can't find his primary school, but his siblings all bogged off to the local comp.
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He was privately educated up to 11. So in other words either he is against anyone having the same start in life as he had or McDonnell is pulling the strings again.

Did put the link on here after Shmmeee said he didn't go to a private school. Then it changed to only secondary schools count.


Castle House School - ISC
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,296
shmmeee said:
Please show me where I say everyone should earn the same.

To be honest I’m getting a little sick of your mental outbursts and constantly calling people liars. You’re like an overly emotional girlfriend at times.
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So you want me to make a list of all your comments on the subject?

And yes they will be your own quotes.
 
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Grendel

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,297
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If said person was employed or given money by Alexander or the Major's office it is an abuse of power. If it was an affair with a subordinate it is seen as abuse of pwer (looks at the McDonalds CEO.
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It was only an issue at McDonald’s as it was a breach of contract - as long as procedures were followed there is no issue with the money given either
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,298
Can see Corbyn getting grilled hard on brexit tonight, about time he opens up about if he wants to leave or remain
 
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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,299
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I don't care about the individual's education but the policies they support and any skeletons in the closet that could be used against him. He has been in Corbyn's shadow cabinet long enough to suggest he is on side with progressive policy positions and his personal record is pretty untainted. We could delve into Johnson's essays for and against Brexit before he decided which would get him the keys to No.10, if you like...
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You already did that. You are now pointing out that you really just seem to hold a discriminatory position based upon a person's background.

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SkyblueBazza

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,300
Deleted member 5849 said:
Where's this privately educated coming from? He passed his 11+ and went to a grammar school that was state funded when he went there. Are we talking before 11?

I've checked and can't find his primary school, but his siblings all bogged off to the local comp.
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Yes...I stand corrected on the Privately Educated bit...but attending a Grammar School leaves a similarly bad taste for most of the same crowd that despise the privately educated. They're all for abolishing those too

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,301
SkyblueBazza said:
You already did that. You are now pointing out that you really just seem to hold a discriminatory position based upon a person's background.

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How? Why would I discriminate against fellow privately educated white dudes who went to elite universities?

I criticise Johnson because there is a long list of things he has done to criticise. You can find me going after all kinds of people.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,302
SkyblueBazza said:
Yes...I stand corrected on the Privately Educated bit...but attending a Grammar School leaves a similarly bad taste for most of the same crowd that despise the privately educated. They're all for abolishing those too

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Did Corbyn have a say in where he went?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,303
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Did Corbyn have a say in where he went?
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Just ironic isn't it how he wants to get rid of them
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,304
Astute said:
So what background is it OK to go to Oxbridge from then?

And how many go from this background?

Which background did Bliar come from?
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It is OK for anyone to go there or any other elite university. Blair went to Fettes College. Brown went to Kirkcaldy High School and then got into Edinburgh at 16. Both did good things as politicians, both also did things they wish they hadn’t.

What point are you trying to prove? A tenuous link to Jean Claude Juncker perhaps?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,305
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Just ironic isn't it how he wants to get rid of them
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Did you get to choose where you went to secondary school?
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,306
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is OK for anyone to go there or any other elite university. Blair went to Fettes College. Brown went to Kirkcaldy High School and then got into Edinburgh at 16. Both did good things as politicians, both also did things they wish they hadn’t.

What point are you trying to prove? A tenuous link to Jean Claude Juncker perhaps?
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Back to pathetic comments again I see.

So nothing to do with Labour wanting to kill off private education? Strange when so many Labour politicians have had a private education including the present leader.

So is finishing off private education a good idea or bad? Because you jump on my post making a stupid comment for some reason. What is it?
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,307
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Did Corbyn have a say in where he went?
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Did the Tories have a say in where they went?

Look forward to seeing your excuse.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,308
Astute said:
Did the Tories have a say in where they went?

Look forward to seeing your excuse.
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I don’t hold their education against them. I do hold their actions against them. The same as for any political figure.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,309
Astute said:
Back to pathetic comments again I see.

So nothing to do with Labour wanting to kill off private education? Strange when so many Labour politicians have had a private education including the present leader.

So is finishing off private education a good idea or bad? Because you jump on my post making a stupid comment for some reason. What is it?
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I am back to these comments because you’re trying to argue with someone who agrees with your position. I have been against that private school policy from the start.
 

Astute

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  • Nov 19, 2019
  • #2,310
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I am back to these comments because you’re trying to argue with someone who agrees with your position. I have been against that private school policy from the start.
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Exactly.

Then you ask me what I am trying to prove then mention Juncker for saying just what you have said.

Then you say it is me :smuggrin:
 
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