Last year I was opposed to another referendum and criticised the likes of Lucas who were clearly trying to cancel the thing before negotiations had even finished. Throughout this year though it has seemed like the best way to end the uncertainty especially after deals continued to get rejected and Parliament had proved itself incapable. Yes I personally think leaving is a mistake but we could have ended the uncertainty before now with a second vote.
We have now a referendum by proxy which will give a green light for all kinds of crap to be included in party manifestos.
Britain won't necessarily have a choice in the matter as long as it remains in the EU. I would eventually expect the whole of the EU to adopt a single healthcare system and that's more likely to be the so-called 'Bismack model' than the Beveridge system, or possibly a mixture of the two.Yeah I’m not arguing for a Dutch system (though I hear good things, that person is not at all a pensioner), I would be fairly agnostic on health funding if I thought for one second we could avoid the US shitshow. But the modern Tory party are drooling Americaphiles so that’ll never happen.
I agree, to an extent. However once all parties nail thier flag firmly to the relevant mast on Brexit (anyone pretending that it is not the most significant issue in this GE is deluded imo) then we can all vote accordingly.
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Yes a third is extremely arbitrary & is just based on the perception of other others attending the Jobseekers fortnightly. Just the attire spoke volumes for the attitude.A third is a rather arbitrary figure, I’d be surprised if the percentage is in double figures in practice. Though I’d be all for DWP reform; I spent a short amount of time signing on when I left university before I got a job and the expectation is you apply for 3 jobs a week. I applied for 35 in the first week. 3 is a bit of a joke.
Brexit is very much a domestic issue isn't it?GEs should be about domestic politics first and foremost. This proxy referendum is a crock of shit
Why did you immediately assume that bringing infrastructure up to the standard required by a modern economy was about giving the undeserving poor a handout?It is definitely a realistic take.
I have been unemployed & spoken with incredulous staff at jobseekers who were amazed at the efforts I went to to find work. Now ok, some aren't capable, some have very limited capacity but just a stab in the dark - a third just cannot be arsed & want to milk the system
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Kind of been saying this for 3 years.... whilst all the noise about how he’s got Brexit wrong...Irrespective of personal views on Corbyn, he has been attacked by remainers for not doing enough to cancel Brexit. He has also been attacked by leavers for trying to obstruct or even revoke Brexit altogether. Would you agree that both can't be right at the same time?
A minority of 48% isn't so much a minority as being almost the same % as those who voted out.
Kind of been saying this for 3 years.... whilst all the noise about how he’s got Brexit wrong...
Demanding a general election which nobody wanted, while negotiations were still on the go? Agreeing to one now with the party 10 points down in the polls and it all being about Brexit? He should have walked a while ago. But it doesn't seem that he will even after he gifts the Tories a clean majority.
It’s not been all about Brexit... you can barely find an election story on Brexit despite Boris’ best intentions and his really shit National Express knock off. This election will be about domestic issues... let’s see what the Tories have - because they look pretty bankrupt of ideas to me.
And the polls? Labour were 20+ points behind last time at the start and closed it to 2.
Why did you immediately assume that bringing infrastructure up to the standard required by a modern economy was about giving the undeserving poor a handout?
Your prejudice is shining on this one.
The number of job applications required from each claimant varies I believe? It can be set higher by the job coach or in the case of say someone over 60 with no hope of ever finding a job it can even be set at zero.A third is a rather arbitrary figure, I’d be surprised if the percentage is in double figures in practice. Though I’d be all for DWP reform; I spent a short amount of time signing on when I left university before I got a job and the expectation is you apply for 3 jobs a week. I applied for 35 in the first week. 3 is a bit of a joke.
The number of job applications required from each claimant varies I believe? It can be set higher by the job coach or in the case of say someone over 60 with no hope of ever finding a job it can even be set at zero.
If someone really wants to milk the system they'd apply for ESA and PIP rather than JSA as it pays much more.
Ask this bloke:How can one 'milk' something that requires one to have a long term disability?
Nobody knows, if they did they'd stop the fraudulent payments.What % of claims are fraudulent?
Nobody knows, if they did they'd stop the fraudulent payments.
It's irrelevant anyway. I didn't say a huge percentage of claims were fraudulent, I said that IF they were fraudulent they were likely to be for the big benefit payments rather than the smaller ones.
What % of claims are fraudulent?
But that is the point.
How many other countries of the world have a NHS? It costs an absolute fortune to run. But it does the job it was designed for. The problem is that now people live longer. So not only do we depend on the NHS for longer but now we have old age ailments we didn't used to have. Full time care costs a lot of money per person.
Then you get those who think that lifestyle health benefits are a right. Should this be allowed? Some will say yes others no. So the NHS has become a money pit.
This is what is ignored. Some just want to look at the costs and bot how they are paid for.Most European countries (including mine) have private health insurance:
Healthcare in Europe - Wikipedia
Who pays? Is it the government or insurance that has to be paid for or even the person having the treatment who doesn't have the insurance?And yet the costs of our system still compare generally favourably to other developed nations. The Americans pay far more for worse outcomes.
This is what is ignored. Some just want to look at the costs and bot how they are paid for.
Let's go back.Irrespective of personal views on Corbyn, he has been attacked by remainers for not doing enough to cancel Brexit. He has also been attacked by leavers for trying to obstruct or even revoke Brexit altogether. Would you agree that both can't be right at the same time?
A minority of 48% isn't so much a minority as being almost the same % as those who voted out.
Do we? You haven't got a clue.We spend less on healthcare than most nations.
Who pays? Is it the government or insurance that has to be paid for or even the person having the treatment who doesn't have the insurance?
Let's go back.
I am supposed to be biased towards leaving. One reason stated was because of me saying he was dithering on saying we should leave or remain. Some thought it was a good idea (And some still do) to not be outright leave or remain.
Look at the Lib Dems. They were dead and buried before Brexit after getting into bed with the Tories. But they came out as very strong remain. They have taken both Labour and Tory votes. But some will still defend the dithering of Corbyn.
So in which way has he got it right? Try to give an explanation with each point.Kind of been saying this for 3 years.... whilst all the noise about how he’s got Brexit wrong...
Easy to say but not prove.I'm not ignoring it. But you're mad if you think that's the route the tories want to push us down.
They want the US model and don't care about the deaths and bankruptcies that causes.
Easy to say but not prove.
We nearly always have a Tory government. And we still have the NHS.
Easy to say but not prove.
We nearly always have a Tory government. And we still have the NHS.
That isn't what was said that you have replied to.Even studies by the most right wing think tanks over there have found that a single payer system is cheaper than what they have now.
They know they would never get away with directly dismantling it. Easier to underfund it, have it do poorly and then get a consensus for privatisation. The process for doing that in education is nearly finished.
Well yup, but since Thatcherism we have increasingly gone down the privatisation route.Easy to say but not prove.
We nearly always have a Tory government. And we still have the NHS.
That isn't what was said that you have replied to.
All systems have the good and bad. We have one of the best systems in the world but it is very expensive to run and pay for.
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