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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,706
chiefdave said:
Kienssberg and Peston both reported, based on information from ‘senior Conservative sources’ that Hancock had been punched by a Labour activist.

However there was video footage showing it to be untrue.
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That labour activist should be arrested for not hitting him.
 
Last edited: Dec 11, 2019

Saddlebrains

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,707
Sick of hearing about it but one thing i will say.

Everyone said Brexit wouldn't happen and it would be remain comfortably.

Everyone said Trump wouldnt stand a chance. Look how that panned out.

2, in my opinion, protest votes due to people being sick of how things are at the minute.

I wouldn't rule out a 3rd

Those saying it wont be Corbyn as PM Friday, dont get too comfortable
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,708
shmmeee said:
If he is, no longer than it takes to have a referendum
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Do you mean "if he is shagging Dianne Abbott, it will take no longer than it takes to have a piss. " ?
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,709
Evo1883 said:
After going over it again and again in my head, and flip flopping... The only reason I'd vote Conservative is for brexit.
Therefore there are many more things I care about more and Labour will get my vote tomorrow

I've done a 360 basically
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Fair play to you, sir
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,710
skybluetony176 said:
I’m going to make some predictions on this.
The source is Dominic Cummings

The truth is that the postal votes are good for labour

Cummings is desperately trying to influence the election because Boris is up shit creek without a Brexit paddle.
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Not my take.

Postal votes will mainly be older generation - far more likely to be Conservative.

If it's trying to influence election this would (IMO) bring out more Labour or put complacency in some conservatives.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,711
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,712
Well, me and the missus are both definitely voting Labour. I would like to go with Green, but it would be a wasted vote in our parts.

Last time out the Green candidate only got 666 votes.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,713
Otis said:
Well, me and the missus are both definitely voting Labour. I would like to go with Green, but it would be a wasted vote in our parts.

Last time out the Green candidate only got 666 votes.
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The candidate of the beast.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,714
Saddlebrains said:
Sick of hearing about it but one thing i will say.

Everyone said Brexit wouldn't happen and it would be remain comfortably.

Everyone said Trump wouldnt stand a chance. Look how that panned out.

2, in my opinion, protest votes due to people being sick of how things are at the minute.

I wouldn't rule out a 3rd

Those saying it wont be Corbyn as PM Friday, dont get too comfortable
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1. Not really: Opinion polling for the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum - Wikipedia

2. Not really. The polls predicted Hillary would narrowly win the popular vote and she did. The election was decided by less than 100,000 votes in swing states.

3. Labour haven't been within 5% in any poll. It isn't happening.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,715
Grendel said:
Still stands she is impartial and excellent at her job
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How is she excellent at her job if she's just broken journalistic rules (and quite probably the law) by revealing this info. Why did she tweet about the unverified reports of someone attacking Matt Hancock which were untrue? If you're a political editor these are things you ought to know not to do. There was another story she tweeted without verification a week or so ago.

As for impartiality why has every little mention of anti-semitism in Labour has been top of the politics page on the BBC website yet when Tories have more of their members investigated for it it's one of the sub stories? Same with the anti-Islam stuff and probe and the turban comment - always pushed down the order so less prominent. Why did she tweet about the unverified rumours mentioned above which effectively took focus off stories which looked negative on the Tories?

Now, this may be naivety and she's been played by sources (the indicators suggest it's far from beyond the Tories morals to do so) and it may not have been a deliberate conscious decision to choose the order of the stories but when you put these things together it doesn't look particularly unbiased.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,716
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Not my take.

Postal votes will mainly be older generation - far more likely to be Conservative.

If it's trying to influence election this would (IMO) bring out more Labour or put complacency in some conservatives.
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All true but it doesn’t have to mean that labour have taken the majority of postal votes for it to be good news for labour, just a bigger proportion than the Tories were expecting given the demographics that you quite rightly point out.
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,717
Brighton Sky Blue said:
1. Not really: Opinion polling for the United Kingdom European Union membership referendum - Wikipedia

2. Not really. The polls predicted Hillary would narrowly win the popular vote and she did. The election was decided by less than 100,000 votes in swing states.

3. Labour haven't been within 5% in any poll. It isn't happening.
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The way the American system works is even more fucked up than FPTP.

I still think you’ve got this wrong. I’ll be the first to hold my hands up if you are right.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,718
Come on Boris!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,719
Ian1779 said:
The way the American system works is even more fucked up than FPTP.

I still think you’ve got this wrong. I’ll be the first to hold my hands up if you are right.
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I would love to be wrong, I just don't see it happening in a month of Sundays.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,720
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
How is she excellent at her job if she's just broken journalistic rules (and quite probably the law) by revealing this info. Why did she tweet about the unverified reports of someone attacking Matt Hancock which were untrue? If you're a political editor these are things you ought to know not to do. There was another story she tweeted without verification a week or so ago.

As for impartiality why has every little mention of anti-semitism in Labour has been top of the politics page on the BBC website yet when Tories have more of their members investigated for it it's one of the sub stories? Same with the anti-Islam stuff and probe and the turban comment - always pushed down the order so less prominent. Why did she tweet about the unverified rumours mentioned above which effectively took focus off stories which looked negative on the Tories?

Now, this may be naivety and she's been played by sources (the indicators suggest it's far from beyond the Tories morals to do so) and it may not have been a deliberate conscious decision to choose the order of the stories but when you put these things together it doesn't look particularly unbiased.
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Don't know which is less likely, G admitting he's wrong or Corbyn getting a majority
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,721
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Don't know which is less likely, G admitting he's wrong or Corbyn getting a majority
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Corbyn because he’ll never ever get a majority, you’d be beyond deluded if you think he will
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,722
Labour minority gov down from 13/2 to 5/1
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,723
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Corbyn because he’ll never ever get a majority, you’d be beyond deluded if you think he will
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You do know I've been predicting a Tory win for ages right?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,724
And here is why Boris Johnson’s Brexit is the biggest threat to the Union
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,725
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You do know I've been predicting a Tory win for ages right?
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Never certain with you, you do post some strange things
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,726
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Corbyn because he’ll never ever get a majority, you’d be beyond deluded if you think he will
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Don’t think you’ll find anyone that says he will get a majority.... but then he doesn’t need one.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,727
fernandopartridge said:
Labour minority gov down from 13/2 to 5/1
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Last 3 polls still have the Tories up by 10
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,728
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Never certain with you, you do post some strange things
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When have I ever predicted that Labour will win this election?
 

Otis

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,729
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Come on Boris!
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Urghh! That sounds disgusting.

 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,730
Otis said:
Urghh! That sounds disgusting.

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Having Corbyn in charge sounds worse
 
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Deleted member 5849

Guest
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,731
Brighton Sky Blue said:
When have I ever predicted that Labour will win this election?
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When it suits a vague generalisation and an attempt to make it us and them.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,732
Ian1779 said:
Don’t think you’ll find anyone that says he will get a majority.... but then he doesn’t need one.
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Boris will be the only one with a majority Friday morning
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,733
SkyBlueDom26 said:
What an idiot you really are
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Takes one to know one Dim
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,734
Deleted member 5849 said:
When it suits a vague generalisation and an attempt to make it us and them.
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Ahhh yes Northern, good to see you again! Who you fancying for tomorrow then
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,735
fernandopartridge said:
Takes one to know one Dim
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Don’t speak about yourself like that!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,736
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Ahhh yes Northern, good to see you again! Who you fancying for tomorrow then
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What's weird with you is that you ignore Ian predicting Labour will come through but go after those who have been predicting Tory wins from the start.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,737
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Don’t speak about yourself like that!
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Do you work Dom?
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,738
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Last 3 polls still have the Tories up by 10
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So?

The methodology they use isn't necessarily reflective of the electorate. I've said a Tory majority of <10. I've never met anybody who has been polled.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,739
fernandopartridge said:
Do you work Dom?
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Yes hard 5 days a week like everyone else
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 11, 2019
  • #5,740
fernandopartridge said:
So?

The methodology they use isn't necessarily reflective of the electorate. I've said a Tory majority of <10. I've never met anybody who has been polled.
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YouGov's latest MRP polled over 100,000 people. I could understand if the polls were showing within margin of error or even 5% but none of them have. Time to face facts Corbyn should never have agreed to this election.
 
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